Catholics aint fucking around....

[D1B]

Dude you are one missed pill and one classic D1B rant from blowing a **** gasket and joining the ranks of the free thinkers. Getting out of the Catholic Church was a huge first step.

I look forward to the day when you are not haunted by the ghosts and demons of christianity. We will crack a few and give a toast to freedom.


"Cman, it's all a fraud. Trust me, I'm Jesus."

I had no problem leaving RCC but I still don't hate them. It was a matter of my own private interpretation of scripture against theirs. TRUST ME, I ain't giving up Christianity. It's been my one source of hope in a hopeless world. Blessed are they who have NOT seen and still believe. THAT TAKES GUTS AND FAITH. Something a lot of people in this world lack. You can hold a gun to my head, fully loaded and ask me to denounce Christ and I would tell you NO. I apologize to nobody for that. Am I perfect? far from it. I struggle with every facet of life every day. But my belief in God keeps me going, even when others denounce it.

No personal attacks. Just me man and I'm not changing. Peace.

Don't take guts Conrad, it takes weakness and self deception. Guts is accepting that the bullshit you call heaven and your super hero friend Jesus is in fact just a bunch of bullshit and you better quit wasting your time on it. Life is too short for that crap.

[catamount man]

I had no problem leaving RCC but I still don't hate them. It was a matter of my own private interpretation of scripture against theirs. TRUST ME, I ain't giving up Christianity. It's been my one source of hope in a hopeless world. Blessed are they who have NOT seen and still believe. THAT TAKES GUTS AND FAITH. Something a lot of people in this world lack. You can hold a gun to my head, fully loaded and ask me to denounce Christ and I would tell you NO. I apologize to nobody for that. Am I perfect? far from it. I struggle with every facet of life every day. But my belief in God keeps me going, even when others denounce it.

No personal attacks. Just me man and I'm not changing. Peace.

Don't take guts Conrad, it takes weakness and self deception. Guts is accepting that the bullshit you call heaven and your super hero friend Jesus is in fact just a bunch of bullshit and you better quit wasting your time on it. Life is too short for that crap.

I will take my chances on what I believe. Thanks all the same friend.

[D1B]

Don't take guts Conrad, it takes weakness and self deception. Guts is accepting that the bullshit you call heaven and your super hero friend Jesus is in fact just a bunch of bullshit and you better quit wasting your time on it. Life is too short for that crap.

I will take my chances on what I believe. Thanks all the same friend.

Well Merry Christmas Cman!

[JoltinJoe]

Where are you Tman?

Tman, I'll help you. Master catholic propagandist Mike Flynn attemped to take a shot at the source of the graph in question and the supporting article in nobelief.com. The author made a second graph using Flynn's dumb data, and the effect of the church on scientific progress was even more devastating, except of course for sadistic torture devices. Nice work catholics.



Here's the source article: http://www.nobeliefs.com/Flynn.htm

As you can see Mike Flynn has done nothing but what Catholics have done for centuries: spreading propaganda. The word itself is a Catholic invention derived from Congregatio de Propaganda Fide, "Congregation for Propagating the Faith," established by a committee of cardinals under Pope Gregory XV.

Catholics

Articles on nobelief.net. I can't believe you cite that crap in support of your statements.

Seriously you need to read more from balanced sources. You have officially become an atheidiot.

[D1B]

Tman, I'll help you. Master catholic propagandist Mike Flynn attemped to take a shot at the source of the graph in question and the supporting article in nobelief.com. The author made a second graph using Flynn's dumb data, and the effect of the church on scientific progress was even more devastating, except of course for sadistic torture devices. Nice work catholics.



Here's the source article: http://www.nobeliefs.com/Flynn.htm



Catholics

Articles on nobelief.net. I can't believe you cite that crap in support of your statements.

Seriously you need to get out more. You have officially become an atheidiot.

Beats the shit out of the bible.

Uh, you still got nothing but hot air Joe.

Refute it:



What are you afraid of?

[D1B]

Tman, I'll help you. Master catholic propagandist Mike Flynn attemped to take a shot at the source of the graph in question and the supporting article in nobelief.com. The author made a second graph using Flynn's dumb data, and the effect of the church on scientific progress was even more devastating, except of course for sadistic torture devices. Nice work catholics.



Here's the source article: http://www.nobeliefs.com/Flynn.htm



Catholics

Articles on nobelief.net. I can't believe you cite that crap in support of your statements.

Seriously you need to read more from balanced sources. You have officially become an atheidiot.

Namecalling, ridicule, poisoning the well, attacking sources and not content, smokescreens, appeals to the peanut gallery . Joe you are on a roll.

[JoltinJoe]

Articles on nobelief.net. I can't believe you cite that crap in support of your statements.

Seriously you need to read more from balanced sources. You have officially become an atheidiot.

Namecalling, ridicule, poisoning the well, attacking sources and not content, smokescreens, appeals to the peanut gallery . Joe you are on a roll.

Articles on nobelief.net.

Please stop linking to spam on this board.

[D1B]

Namecalling, ridicule, poisoning the well, attacking sources and not content, smokescreens, appeals to the peanut gallery . Joe you are on a roll.

Articles on nobelief.net.

Please stop linking to spam on this board.

Namecalling, ridicule, poisoning the well, attacking sources and not content, smokescreens, appeals to the peanut gallery . Joe you are on a roll.

[D1B]

According to the commercial , the catholics also "assembled" the bible.

What a bunch of dumbfucks.



One would think they'd get the word of god right!

[D1B]

The catholics assembled the bible.

We are told to accept that Jesus existed based upon the Gospels of the Bible, yet the Gospels are so poorly written that a logical person is at best left to ponder if Jesus even existed. The Gospels are consistently contradictive, filled with mathematic errors and don’t compliment each other on very important details. This page shall serve as an example for just how unreliable the Gospels are.
Gospel Contradictions:

1) How many generations were there between Abraham to David? Matthew 1:17 lists fourteen generations. Matthew 1:2 lists thirteen generations.

2) Is Paul lying? In Acts 20:35 Paul told people "to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, 'It is more blessed to give than to receive.'" Since Jesus never made such a biblical statement, isn’t Paul guilty of deception?

3) When did the leper become not a leper? (Matthew 8:13 & 8:14) Jesus healed the leper before visiting the house. (Mark 1:29-30 & 1:40-42) Jesus healed the leper after visiting Simon Peter’s house.

4) Who approached Jesus? (Matthew 8:5-7) The Centurion approached Jesus, beseeching help for a sick servant. (Luke 7:3 & 7:6-7) The Centurion did not approach Jesus. He sent friends and elders of the Jews.

5) Was she dead or just dying? (Matthew 9:18) He asked for help, saying his daughter was already dead. (Luke 8:41-42) Jairus approached Jesus for help, because his daughter was dying.

6) Just what did Jesus instruct them to take? (Matthew 10:10) Jesus instructed them not to take a staff, not to wear sandals. (Mark 6:8-9) Jesus instructed his disciples to wear sandals and take a staff on their journey.

7) When did John find out Jesus was the Messiah? (Matthew 11:2-3) While imprisoned. John the Baptist sent followers to Jesus to inquire if Jesus was the messiah. (Luke 7:18-22) While imprisoned. John the Baptist sent followers to Jesus to inquire if Jesus was the Messiah. (John 1 :29-34,36) John already knew Jesus was the Messiah.

8) Who made the request? (Matthew 20:20-21) Their mother requested that James and John, Zebedee’s children, should sit beside Jesus in his Kingdom. (Mark 10:35-37) James and John, Zebedee’s children, requested that they should sit beside Jesus in his Kingdom.

9) What animals were brought to Jesus? (Matthew 21:2-7) two of the disciples brought Jesus an ass and a colt from the village of Bethphage. (Mark 11:2-7) They brought him only a colt.

10) When did the fig tree hear of its doom? (Matthew 21:17-19) Jesus cursed the fig tree after purging the temple. (Mark 11:14-15 & 20) He cursed it before the purging.

11) When did the fig tree keel? (Matthew 21:9) The fig tree withered immediately. and the disciples registered surprise then and there. (Mark 11:12-14 & 20) The morning after Jesus cursed the fig tree, the disciples noticed it had withered and expressed astonishment.

12) Was John the Baptist Elias? "This is Elias which was to come." Matthew 11:14 "And they asked him, what then? Art thou Elias? And he said I am not." John l:21

13) Who was the father of Joseph? Matthew 1:16 The father of Joseph was Jacob. Luke 3 :23 The father of Joseph was Heli. Christians shall try to LIE and tell you that one is the heritage of Mary and the other Joseph. This is utter bullshit, the Hebrew and Greek cultures NEVER regarded the bloodline of the mother. They were patriarchal societies which only concerned themselves with paternal lineage.

14) How many generations were there from the Babylon captivity to Christ? Matthew 1:17 Fourteen generations, Matthew 1:12-16 Thirteen generations.

15) Matthew 2:15, 19 & 21-23 The infant Christ was taken into Egypt. Luke 2:22 & 39 The infant Christ was NOT taken to Egypt.

16) Matthew 5:1-2 Christ preached his first sermon on the mount. Luke 6:17 & 20 Christ preached his first sermon in the plain.

17) John was in prison when Jesus went into Galilee. Mark 1:14 John was not in prison when Jesus went into Galilee. John 1:43 & 3:22-24

18) What was the nationality of the woman who besought Jesus? Matthew 15:22 "And behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, Have mercy on me, 0 Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil." Mark 7:26 "The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation, and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter."

19) How many blind men besought Jesus? Matthew 20:30 Two blind men. Luke 18:35-38 Only one blind man.

20) Where did the devil take Jesus first? (Matthew 4:5-8) The Devil took Jesus first to the parapet of the temple, then to a high place to view all the Kingdoms of the world. (Luke 4:5-9) The Devil took Jesus first to a high place to view the kingdoms, then to the parapet of the temple.

21) Can one pray in public? (Matthew 6:5-6) Jesus condemned public prayer. (1 Timothy 2:8) Paul encouraged public prayer.

22) If we decide to do good works, should those works be seen? Matthew 5:16 "Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works." 1 Peter 2:12 "Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that ... they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation." This contradicts: Matthew 6:1-4 "Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them…that thine alms may be in secret." Matthew 23:3-5 "Do not ye after their [Pharisees'] works ... all their works they do for to be seen of men."

23) Who did Jesus tell the Lord’s Prayer to? (Matthew 5:1, 6:9-13 & 7:28) Jesus delivered the Lord’s Prayer during the Sermon on the Mount before the multitudes. (Luke 11:1-4) He delivered it before the disciples alone, and not as part of the Sermon on the Mount.

24) When was Christ crucified? Mark 15:25 "And it was the third hour and they crucified him." John 19:14-15 "And it was the preparation of the Passover, and about the sixth hour; and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your king…Shall I crucify your king?" John 19:14-15.

25) The two thieves reviled Christ. (Matthew 27:44 & Mark 15:32) Only one of the thieves reviled Christ. Luke 23:39-40.

26) In 1 Corinthians 1:17 ("For Christ sent me [Paul] not to baptize but to preach the gospel") Paul said Jesus was wrong when he said in Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them…" Clearly one of these people is wrong, either way, it’s a contradiction.

27) When did Satan enter Judas? Satan entered into Judas while at the supper. John 13:27 Satan entered Judas before the supper. Luke 23:3-4 & 7

28) How many women came to the sepulcher? John 20:1 Only one woman went, Mary Magdalene. Matthew 28:1 Mary Magdalene and the "other Mary" (Jesus’ mother) went.

29) Mark 16:2 It was sunrise when the two women went to the sepulcher. John 20:1 It was still dark (before sunrise) when Mary Magdalene went alone to the sepulcher.

30) There were two angels seen by the women at the sepulcher and they were standing up. Luke 24:4 There was only one angel seen and he was sitting down. Mark 28:2-5

31) How many angels were within the sepulcher? John 20:11-12 two, Mark 16:5 one.

32) The Holy Ghost bestowed at Pentecost. Acts 1:5-8 & 2:1-4 The holy Ghost bestowed before Pentecost. John 20:22

33) Where did Jesus first appear to the eleven disciples? In a room in Jerusalem. Luke 24:32-37 On a mountain in Galilee. Matthew 28:15-17

34) Where did Christ ascend from? From Mount Olivet. Acts 1:9-12 From Bethany. Luke 24:50-51

35) Can all sins be forgiven? (Acts 13:39) All sins can be forgiven. Great, I’m happy to know God is so merciful, but wait (Mark 3:29) Cursing or blaspheming the Holy Spirit is unforgivable.

36) The Elijah mystery: (Malachi 4:5) Elijah must return before the final days of the world. (Matthew 11:12-14) Jesus said that John the Baptist was Elijah. (Matthew 17:12- 13) Jesus insists that Elijah has already come, and everyone understood him to mean John the Baptist. (Mark 9:13) Jesus insists that Elijah has already come. (John 1:21) John the Baptist maintained that he was not Elijah.

37) Who purchased the potter’s field? Acts 1:18 The field was purchased by Judas. John 20:1 The potter’s field was purchased by the chief priests.

38) Paul’s attendants heard the miraculous voice and stood speechless. Acts 9:7 Paul’s attendants did not hear the voice and were prostrate. Acts 22:9 & 26:14

39) Who bought the Sepulcher? Jacob, Josh 24:32 Abraham, Acts 7:16

40) Was it lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death? "The Jews answered him, we have a law, and by our law he ought to die." John 19:7 "The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death." John 18:31

41) Has anyone ascended up to heaven? Elijah went up to heaven: "And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." 2 Kings 2:11 "No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man." John 3:13

42) Is scripture inspired by God? "all scripture is given by inspiration of God." 2 Timothy 3:16 compared to: "But I speak this by permission and not by commandment." 1 Corinthians 7:6 "But to the rest speak I, not the Lord." 1 Corinthians 7:12 "That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord" 2 Corinthians.


www.evilbible.com

[D1B]

[D1B]

Jeeze, how sad is this...

“I have been . . . suspected of heresy, that is, of having held and believed that the Sun is the center of the universe and immovable, and that the earth is not the center of the same, and that it does move . . . I abjure with a sincere heart and unfeigned faith, I curse and detest the said errors and heresies, and generally all and every error and sect contrary to the Holy Catholic church.”

-- Galileo Galilei's Recantation, June 22, 1633

[BlueHen86]

Jeeze, how sad is this...

“I have been . . . suspected of heresy, that is, of having held and believed that the Sun is the center of the universe and immovable, and that the earth is not the center of the same, and that it does move . . . I abjure with a sincere heart and unfeigned faith, I curse and detest the said errors and heresies, and generally all and every error and sect contrary to the Holy Catholic church.”

-- Galileo Galilei's Recantation, June 22, 1633

Sounds like Galileo need a good lawyer, like Johnny Cochran. "If the Earth does spin, it ain't a sin."

[D1B]

Jeeze, how sad is this...

“I have been . . . suspected of heresy, that is, of having held and believed that the Sun is the center of the universe and immovable, and that the earth is not the center of the same, and that it does move . . . I abjure with a sincere heart and unfeigned faith, I curse and detest the said errors and heresies, and generally all and every error and sect contrary to the Holy Catholic church.”

-- Galileo Galilei's Recantation, June 22, 1633

Sounds like Galileo need a good lawyer, like Johnny Cochran. "If the Earth does spin, it ain't a sin."

Naw, the catholics would have killed him too.

[travelinman67]

...and did they derive their "data" from the CRU in East Anglia?








Now THAT'S funny...showing a graph from "nobeliefs.com"...

Uh, Tman you care to dispute it? OK, lets hear it. I'll be waiting.

Please...

From a source of equally unbiased integrity...

[JoltinJoe]

And of course, we're still waiting for that one name. One name.

[D1B]

And of course, we're still waiting for that one name. One name.

Another attempt to divert attention.

Joe, start another thread.

This one involves the claims (some accurate, some not so) made in the desperate attempt to lure former catholics/sheep/willing conspirators back into the flock.

Also, please leave the namecalling, personal attacks, appeals to the invisible masses, smokescreens and diversions and unsubstantiated claims at home. We're having a nice discussion.

[D1B]

Uh, Tman you care to dispute it? OK, lets hear it. I'll be waiting.

Please...

From a source of equally unbiased integrity...

Now that's what I'm talking bout! Nice one.

I can't believe you're using a graph from asshole.com!

Is Tman back?

[kalm]

Please...

From a source of equally unbiased integrity...

Now that's what I'm talking bout! Nice one.

I can't believe you're using a graph from *******.com!

Is Tman back?

I went to that site. The content stinks, and my pop up blocker kept coming on.
















I have to admit, that was funny as hell t-man.

[JMU DJ]

And of course, we're still waiting for that one name. One name.

Hey dirk, I provided you with a list of names Christians have have killed, much like the other evidence in this thread, you are unwilling to accept it. You killed a philosopher, sentenced a scientist to death and imprisoned two scientist (that I've found) who died in catholic custody. Let me show you what they did to the second guy after he died in their custody:

Even this did not end his trial. His case was continued after his death, and on the 20th of December judgment was pronounced over his corpse in the church of Santa Maria sopra Minerva. His heresy was declared manifest, and by order of the Inquisition his body was taken from the coffin, dragged through the streets of Rome, and publicly burnt in the Campo di Fiore, together with his works, on 21 December 1624.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Antonio_de_Dominis

Sounds like another case of pissed anti socialites who couldn't get the justice they wanted while the guy was alive... reminiscent of Servetus. Not to mention all the literature and other scientist that were forced to stop their teachings, recant, and had their scientific works banned.


But that's not the point of this thread, it's the erroneous infomercial your organization put together up front. Did you not see all of the information posted up there to show how your church slowed the process of the dissemination of information or are you just turning a blind eye to that too? I mean, you guys put Roger Bacon in prison and condemned him... Roger Bacon! The man who is credited as being one of the first European proponents of the Scientific Method!



... and another one for Pwns, in case you missed this, I didn't when the news came out. A list of scientist threatened, kidnapped or killed in Iraq since the war began.
http://www.brusselstribunal.org/academicsList.htm

... and a nice USA Today write up.

Al-Rawi, a geologist at Baghdad University and head of the Association of University Lecturers, says about 300 academics and university administrators have been assassinated in a mysterious wave of murders since the American occupation of Iraq began in 2003. About 2,000 others, he says, have fled the country in fear for their lives.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq ... ions_x.htm

[D1B]

Joltin Joe

[JoltinJoe]

And of course, we're still waiting for that one name. One name.

Hey dirk, I provided you with a list of names Christians have have killed, much like the other evidence in this thread, you are unwilling to accept it. You killed a philosopher, sentenced a scientist to death and imprisoned two scientist (that I've found) who died in catholic custody. Let me show you what they did to the second guy after he died in their custody:

Even this did not end his trial. His case was continued after his death, and on the 20th of December judgment was pronounced over his corpse in the church of Santa Maria sopra Minerva. His heresy was declared manifest, and by order of the Inquisition his body was taken from the coffin, dragged through the streets of Rome, and publicly burnt in the Campo di Fiore, together with his works, on 21 December 1624.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Antonio_de_Dominis

Sounds like another case of pissed anti socialites who couldn't get the justice they wanted while the guy was alive... reminiscent of Servetus. Not to mention all the literature and other scientist that were forced to stop their teachings, recant, and had their scientific works banned.


But that's not the point of this thread, it's the erroneous infomercial your organization put together up front. Did you not see all of the information posted up there to show how your church slowed the process of the dissemination of information or are you just turning a blind eye to that too? I mean, you guys put Roger Bacon in prison and condemned him... Roger Bacon! The man who is credited as being one of the first European proponents of the Scientific Method!



... and another one for Pwns, in case you missed this, I didn't when the news came out. A list of scientist threatened, kidnapped or killed in Iraq since the war began.
http://www.brusselstribunal.org/academicsList.htm

... and a nice USA Today write up.

Al-Rawi, a geologist at Baghdad University and head of the Association of University Lecturers, says about 300 academics and university administrators have been assassinated in a mysterious wave of murders since the American occupation of Iraq began in 2003. About 2,000 others, he says, have fled the country in fear for their lives.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq ... ions_x.htm

You seem to have a problem keeping on point.

I am not interested in a list of persons killed by "Christians" -- the issue was speicifically scientists executed by the Catholic Church.

And we still do not have any, do we?

[JMU DJ]

Hey dirk, I provided you with a list of names Christians have have killed, much like the other evidence in this thread, you are unwilling to accept it. You killed a philosopher, sentenced a scientist to death and imprisoned two scientist (that I've found) who died in catholic custody. Let me show you what they did to the second guy after he died in their custody:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Antonio_de_Dominis

Sounds like another case of pissed anti socialites who couldn't get the justice they wanted while the guy was alive... reminiscent of Servetus. Not to mention all the literature and other scientist that were forced to stop their teachings, recant, and had their scientific works banned.


But that's not the point of this thread, it's the erroneous infomercial your organization put together up front. Did you not see all of the information posted up there to show how your church slowed the process of the dissemination of information or are you just turning a blind eye to that too? I mean, you guys put Roger Bacon in prison and condemned him... Roger Bacon! The man who is credited as being one of the first European proponents of the Scientific Method!



... and another one for Pwns, in case you missed this, I didn't when the news came out. A list of scientist threatened, kidnapped or killed in Iraq since the war began.
http://www.brusselstribunal.org/academicsList.htm

... and a nice USA Today write up.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq ... ions_x.htm

You seem to have a problem keeping on point.

I am not interested in a list of persons killed by "Christians" -- the issue was speicifically scientists executed by the Catholic Church.

And we still do not have any, do we?

Your ignorance must be very blissful, Joe.

[OSBF]

And of course, we're still waiting for that one name. One name.

One name of an Alaskan priest going to prison for ass rappin' little boys.

Give me one name of one disgusting pedaphile monster the "church" didn't hide and protect from prosecution.

Lemme guess............no names, therefore it didn't happen..........

[Skjellyfetti]

I am not interested in a list of persons killed by "Christians" -- the issue was speicifically scientists executed by the Catholic Church.

And we still do not have any, do we?

Pretty sure you were given one several pages back... but you decided to play semantics and argue he wasn't really a scientist.