April is Confederate History Month

[citdog]

The First Brigade


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[citdog]

Jackson and Stuart meet. "The Black Flag" and Jackson's thoughts on who really wins if the South is defeated.


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[citdog]

"Virginia Military Institute will be heard from today"


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Jackson's attack on the flank of Hooker's army at Chancellorsville. General Robert E. Lee's greatest victory.


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[citdog]

Instructions from Secretary of State R.M.T. Hunter to James Mason on seeking Recognition from England.
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[citdog]

no link or video for this one. If you gentlemen will be so kind I'd like to tell you the history of one of my Confederate Ancestors. His name was Solon Evans and he was from the Marion District of South Carolina (present day Williamsburg County). He enlisted at Sullivan's Island in the 1st Regiment South Carolina Volunteers (Orr's Rifles) on 21 Dec, 1860 the day after South Carolina declared her independence to the world. He was 17 years old. The first year of the war the 1st spent on Sullivan's Island in the defense of the city of Charleston. In April of '62 the regiment boarded the trains and went to Richmond. The 1st "saw the elephant" at the battle of Gaines Mill during the Seven Days. 537 men were engaged at Gaines Mill and the 1st suffered 59% casualties. Here are the battles that Solon fought in.

Seven Days
2nd Manassas
Chantilly
Sharpsburg
Shepardstown Ford
Castleman's Ferry
Fredricksburg
Chancellorsville
Gettysburg
Falling Waters
Bristoe Station
Mine Run
Wilderness
Spotyslvania
Cold Harbor
Petersburg Siege
Five Forks
Appamattox

Solon was shot in the right thigh on the morning of 9 April '65 in the vanguard of the last offensive action taken by General Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia. The attack, led by General John B. Gordon, was attempting to break through Grant's lines and continue the march South to join Genl Joseph E. Johnston's Army of Tenn in North Carolina. I have his service record and a piece of one of the Regimental Battle Flags that was lovingly cut up and distributed amongst the survivors rather than being surrendered to the yankees. I feel for this yellowed piece of cloth what a Catholic must feel when holding a piece of the "true cross". I treasure these more than anything else in this world. Solon NEVER took the Oath of Allegiance, being in the hospital in Richmond until June of '65, and WALKED home to South Carolina. Solon Evans wasn't fighting for slavery. He couldn't even write his name. On his discharge papers from hospital is an 'X' and written by it is "his mark". He was a small farmer after the war in Williamsburg County, SC and never went more than 50 miles from his home for the rest of his life. He died in 1921. I visit his grave often and always put a fresh Battle Flag in front of it.

Sleep sweetly in your humble graves
Sleep martyrs to a fallen cause
Though yet no marble column craves
The pilgrim here to pause

In seeds of laurel in the earth
The blossom of your fame is blown
And somewhere waiting for its birth
The Shaft is in the stone!

Meanwhile behalf the tardy years
Which keep in trust your storied tombs
Behold! your sisters bring their tears
And these memorial blooms

Small tributes! but your shades will smile
More proudly on these wreaths today
Than when some cannon moulded pile
Shall overlook this bay

Stoop Angels hither from the skies!
There is no holier spot of ground
Than where defeated valor lies
By morning beauty crowned

Henry Timrod

[citdog]

Confederate Gold? Knights of the Golden Circle? Did that "dirty little coward REALLY shoot Mr. Howard and lay Jesse in his grave?"



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[grizzaholic]

Quick question.

What was the desertion rate among the Confederacy? 30%? 40%?

[Skjellyfetti]

Quick question.

What was the desertion rate among the Confederacy? 30%? 40%?

Would be very difficult to determine with any degree accuracy. For 1861 to most of 1863 I'd think it would be below 30 or 40%. At the end of the war... it would have been much higher. An average for the whole war would be skewed because it was so rampant at the end.

Then there's how you would define desertion. A guy volunteers for the war in 1861 and signs papers for a year or two years of service. His time commitment passes... he considers his duty served and he wants to go home. Army doesn't let him, they consider him a deserter. Would folks in this situation be considered deserters or not?

[citdog]

Quick question.

What was the desertion rate among the Confederacy? 30%? 40%?

Would be very difficult to determine with any degree accuracy. For 1861 to most of 1863 I'd think it would be below 30 or 40%. At the end of the war... it would have been much higher. An average for the whole war would be skewed because it was so rampant at the end.

Then there's how you would define desertion. A guy volunteers for the war in 1861 and signs papers for a year or two years of service. His time commitment passes... he considers his duty served and he wants to go home. Army doesn't let him, they consider him a deserter. Would folks in this situation be considered deserters or not?

Desertion was not a very large issue in the Army of the Confederate States until '65. The men that anallube speaks of mostly reenlisted by units for "The War".

[citdog]

The Constitution of the Confederate States of America with differences between it and that of the 'late united states' shown. "We the people, of the Confederated States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character" etc etc


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[Skjellyfetti]

The Constitution of the Confederate States of America with differences between it and that of the 'late united states' shown. "We the people, of the Confederated States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character" etc etc

Yup. That is a glaring difference.

Though, rednecks do like to erroneously claim that the states of the United States of America are sovereign and independent.

[citdog]

The Constitution of the Confederate States of America with differences between it and that of the 'late united states' shown. "We the people, of the Confederated States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character" etc etc

Yup. That is a glaring difference.

Though, rednecks do like to erroneously claim that the states of the United States of America are sovereign and independent.

oh buttrapejelly only the IGNORANT like you would think that the States are NOT sovereign. If they are not why did England make 13 separate peaces with each colony?

[Skjellyfetti]

oh buttrapejelly only the IGNORANT like you would think that the States are NOT sovereign. If they are not why did England make 13 separate peaces with each colony?

They were independent and sovereign once upon a time... and joined in a loose CONFEDERACY.... under the Articles of CONFEDERATION.

Article II of the Articles of Confederation:

Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right

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It failed miserably and they scrapped that idea.




You seem to know that, though... or you wouldn't say it's a difference between the Confederate Constitution and the United States Constitution.

The Constitution of the Confederate States of America with differences between it and that of the 'late united states' shown. "We the people, of the Confederated States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character" etc etc

[citdog]

oh buttrapejelly only the IGNORANT like you would think that the States are NOT sovereign. If they are not why did England make 13 separate peaces with each colony?

They were independent and sovereign once upon a time... and joined in a loose CONFEDERACY.... under the Articles of CONFEDERATION.

Article II of the Articles of Confederation:

Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right

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It failed miserably and they scrapped that idea.




You seem to know that, though... or you wouldn't say it's a difference between the Confederate Constitution and the United States Constitution.

The Constitution of the Confederate States of America with differences between it and that of the 'late united states' shown. "We the people, of the Confederated States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character" etc etc

it was understood by all parties THEN and by all who love the TRUTH today that the several States NEVER gave up those rights. Mr. Jefferson's take...

"The truth of our constitution is surely the wisest and best, that the States are independent as to everything within themselves, and united as to everything respecting foreign affairs."

SUCK IT!

love,
cit

[citdog]

They were independent and sovereign once upon a time... and joined in a loose CONFEDERACY.... under the Articles of CONFEDERATION.

Article II of the Articles of Confederation:

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It failed miserably and they scrapped that idea.




You seem to know that, though... or you wouldn't say it's a difference between the Confederate Constitution and the United States Constitution.

it was understood by all parties THEN and by all who love the TRUTH today that the several States NEVER gave up those rights. Mr. Jefferson's take...

"The truth of our constitution is surely the wisest and best, that the States are independent as to everything within themselves, and united as to everything respecting foreign affairs."

SUCK IT!

love,
cit

prisionsexjelly it was and is understood like it is known that the sky is blue.

[citdog]

Was secession treason? Not according to Salmon P. Chase who when asked to prosecute President Davis in 1867 said....

"If you bring Davis or Lee or ANY of the Confederate leaders to trial it will condemn the North. For under the constitution secession is not rebellion. The capture of Jefferson Davis was a mistake. His trial will be a bigger mistake. We cannot convict him of treason."

Salmon P. Chase Chief Justice of the us supreme court 1867

[grizzaholic]

Would be very difficult to determine with any degree accuracy. For 1861 to most of 1863 I'd think it would be below 30 or 40%. At the end of the war... it would have been much higher. An average for the whole war would be skewed because it was so rampant at the end.

Then there's how you would define desertion. A guy volunteers for the war in 1861 and signs papers for a year or two years of service. His time commitment passes... he considers his duty served and he wants to go home. Army doesn't let him, they consider him a deserter. Would folks in this situation be considered deserters or not?

Desertion was not a very large issue in the Army of the Confederate States until '65. The men that anallube speaks of mostly reenlisted by units for "The War".

[citdog]

Desertion was not a very large issue in the Army of the Confederate States until '65. The men that anallube speaks of mostly reenlisted by units for "The War".

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[grizzaholic]

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Hey now. History is written by the winners.

[citdog]

Letter from Pope Pius to "His Excellency" Jefferson Davis

De Facto Recognition?


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[Skjellyfetti]

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More Damning than Slaughter is the first broad study of desertion in the Confederate army. Incorporating extensive archival research with a synthesis of other secondary material, Mark A. Weitz confronts a question never fully addressed until now: did desertion hurt the Confederacy?

Coupled with problems such as speculation, food and clothing shortages, conscription, taxation, and a pervasive focus on the protection of local interests, desertion started as a military problem and spilled over into the civilian world. Fostered by a military culture that treated absenteeism leniently early in the war, desertion steadily increased and by 1863 reached epidemic proportions. A Union policy that permitted Confederate deserters to swear allegiance to the Union and then return home encouraged desertion. Equally important in persuading men to desert was the direct appeal from loved ones on the home front—letters from wives begging soldiers to come home for harvests, births, and other events.

By 1864 deserter bands infested some portion of every Confederate state. Preying on the civilian population, many of these bands became irregular military units that frustrated virtually every effort to subdue them. Ultimately, desertion not only depleted the Confederate army but also threatened “home” and undermined civilian morale. By examining desertion, Weitz assesses how deteriorating southern civilian morale and growing unwillingness to contribute goods and services to the war led to defeat.

[citdog]

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More Damning than Slaughter is the first broad study of desertion in the Confederate army. Incorporating extensive archival research with a synthesis of other secondary material, Mark A. Weitz confronts a question never fully addressed until now: did desertion hurt the Confederacy?

Coupled with problems such as speculation, food and clothing shortages, conscription, taxation, and a pervasive focus on the protection of local interests, desertion started as a military problem and spilled over into the civilian world. Fostered by a military culture that treated absenteeism leniently early in the war, desertion steadily increased and by 1863 reached epidemic proportions. A Union policy that permitted Confederate deserters to swear allegiance to the Union and then return home encouraged desertion. Equally important in persuading men to desert was the direct appeal from loved ones on the home front—letters from wives begging soldiers to come home for harvests, births, and other events.

By 1864 deserter bands infested some portion of every Confederate state. Preying on the civilian population, many of these bands became irregular military units that frustrated virtually every effort to subdue them. Ultimately, desertion not only depleted the Confederate army but also threatened “home” and undermined civilian morale. By examining desertion, Weitz assesses how deteriorating southern civilian morale and growing unwillingness to contribute goods and services to the war led to defeat.

I own this book. i bought it for .25 at the goodwill store. it's about all it's worth.

[citdog]

the calling up of 75,000 troops is what forced Virginia and North Carolina to secede

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[mrklean]

[CID1990]

Here, we witness the evolution of the wisdom of Kleany, who has chosen to simply "thumbs up" a post, rather than say anything.