Zimmerman is being RACE Railroaded

Post by **BlueHen86** » Wed May 16, 2012 3:41 pm

travelinman67 wrote:
TrotskyHen86 wrote:
"Environmentkillingman67,

Just because Martin beat the shit out of Zimmerman (allegedly) it doesn't mean that Martin STARTED the fight. So far the only person that has claimed Martin started the fight is Zimmerman."

Though not familiar with Florida law, I'm intimately familiar with CA criminal law.

Once deadly force occurs, "who started it" is criminally irrelevant. The party utilizing deadly force merely needs to support the assertion that they were reasonably in fear of losing their life. That will be the only issue.

If Trayvon's family chooses to civilly pursue damages claiming but for Zimmerman's wrongful pursuit, Trayvon wouldn't have lost his life, that is another case for another day.

BTW, get a haircut.

Actually, I agree with you regarding letting a jury decide the case. I think Zimmerman walks (even without the stand your ground law), but I think Zimmerman would lose a civil case if one were allowed.

I think the stand your ground law protects Zimmerman, so I think he walks both criminally and civilly once this plays out. I expect that the Martins family will sue the Homeowners Assoc. at some point in the future, and I like their chances.

And I wish I had that much hair.

Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Wed May 16, 2012 5:06 pm

89Hen wrote:If this is true, I don't see how he could get convicted using Florida law.

Yeah, and MSNBC is pissed.

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Wed May 16, 2012 7:11 pm

Baldy wrote:
89Hen wrote:If this is true, I don't see how he could get convicted using Florida law.
Yeah, and MSNBC is pissed.

Man I was flipping around last night and settled in on MSNBC. I watched Al Sharpton for about 20 minutes. I swear that things have gotten much worse with cable news in the two years since I was out of the country. While overseas, I watched the Asia versions of CNN and BBC and did not receive the major US market broadcasts.

Seriously? Sharpton?? Sharpton comes across as borderline illiterate, and his show is basically free campaign advertising for Obama and the left. WTF is wrong with us? I see FOX is still swung out to the right, but MSNBC is seriously out of control.

I do enjoy the Silver Fox on CNN. He holds everybody's feet to the fire, but there isn't a lot of substance there; he just instigates fights between his guests.

Also Sodomy

Post by **SDHornet** » Wed May 16, 2012 7:50 pm

Ssssooooo to recap:
Brown man: 1
Black man: 0

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Wed May 16, 2012 8:04 pm

SDHornet wrote:Ssssooooo to recap:
Brown man: 1
Black man: 0

I'll let Mr CK respond on my behalf.

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Post by **Grizo406** » Wed May 16, 2012 8:18 pm

Grizalltheway wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Ssssooooo to recap:
Brown man: 1
Black man: 0

I'll let Mr CK respond on my behalf.

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Nice one, GATW...no homo!!!

eagleskins · Post by **eagleskins** » Wed May 16, 2012 11:28 pm

What is really going to be hilarious is when all these republicans finally realize Zimmerman isn't white.

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Thu May 17, 2012 3:24 am

eagleskins wrote:What is really going to be hilarious is when all these republicans finally realize Zimmerman isn't white.

.........or you could put any political entity realizes Zimmerman isn't white.

D1B · Post by **D1B** » Thu May 17, 2012 3:54 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
eagleskins wrote:What is really going to be hilarious is when all these republicans finally realize Zimmerman isn't white.
.........or you could put any political entity realizes Zimmerman isn't white.

No, Gil, just conks.

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Thu May 17, 2012 4:18 am

D1B wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
.........or you could put any political entity realizes Zimmerman isn't white.
No, Gil, just conks.

You sure have a hardon for race hating, and I doubt you are a Conk

Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Thu May 17, 2012 4:34 am

eagleskins wrote:What is really going to be hilarious is when all these republicans finally realize Zimmerman isn't white.

Are you saying that the media lied to us when they called him a "white" hispanic?

I know you've been kicked off every other board out there, but you really need to post more on here. Your blind ignorance makes me laugh.

Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Thu May 17, 2012 4:38 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
D1B wrote:
No, Gil, just conks.

You sure have a hardon for race hating, and I doubt you are a Conk

Doesn't have to be Gil. You know as well as I that Donks have been hating on anyone who doesn't look like them or abide by their ideology since...forever.

Bronco · Post by **Bronco** » Thu May 17, 2012 3:03 pm

Trayvon Martin Had Drugs in System, Autopsy Found
ABC ^ | MATT GUTMAN

Trayvon Martin, the 17-year-old who was shot and killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer, had the drug THC in his system the night of this death, according to new information obtained by ABC News.

The revelation came as prosecutors in the case prepared to release to the public hundreds of pages of new evidence along with videos and crime scene photos.

Martin's death sparked public outrage after police released Martin's shooter, George Zimmerman, without any criminal charges for the killing.

Zimmerman, 28, is a multi-racial Hispanic man who shot the black high school junior at close range on Feb. 26, and claimed self-defense, though Martin was unarmed. Zimmerman was later charged with second-degree murder, and the killing provoked widespread debate about racial profiling.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...

Post by **DSUrocks07** » Thu May 17, 2012 3:20 pm

Bronco wrote:
Trayvon Martin Had Drugs in System, Autopsy Found
ABC ^ | MATT GUTMAN

Trayvon Martin, the 17-year-old who was shot and killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer, had the drug THC in his system the night of this death, according to new information obtained by ABC News.

The revelation came as prosecutors in the case prepared to release to the public hundreds of pages of new evidence along with videos and crime scene photos.

Martin's death sparked public outrage after police released Martin's shooter, George Zimmerman, without any criminal charges for the killing.

Zimmerman, 28, is a multi-racial Hispanic man who shot the black high school junior at close range on Feb. 26, and claimed self-defense, though Martin was unarmed. Zimmerman was later charged with second-degree murder, and the killing provoked widespread debate about racial profiling.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...

THC=weed

no surprise there. not sure how important it is tho.

Post by **BlueHen86** » Thu May 17, 2012 3:41 pm

DSUrocks07 wrote:
Bronco wrote:
THC=weed

no surprise there. not sure how important it is tho.

It's not, unless you think smoking weed is a crime that deserves the death penalty. Sadly, the police didn't check Zimmerman's blood the night of the shooting.

Post by **BlueHen86** » Thu May 17, 2012 3:47 pm

travelinman67 wrote:
TrotskyHen86 wrote:
"Environmentkillingman67,

Just because Martin beat the shit out of Zimmerman (allegedly) it doesn't mean that Martin STARTED the fight. So far the only person that has claimed Martin started the fight is Zimmerman."

Though not familiar with Florida law, I'm intimately familiar with CA criminal law.

Once deadly force occurs, "who started it" is criminally irrelevant. The party utilizing deadly force merely needs to support the assertion that they were reasonably in fear of losing their life. That will be the only issue.

If Trayvon's family chooses to civilly pursue damages claiming but for Zimmerman's wrongful pursuit, Trayvon wouldn't have lost his life, that is another case for another day.

BTW, get a haircut.

I still think Zimmerman walks but -

I think "who started it" is very important in applying the stand your ground law. If it can be proved that Zimmerman followed and then started a fight with Martin I don't think Zimmerman can be saved by the stand your ground law.

Bronco · Post by **Bronco** » Thu May 17, 2012 4:16 pm

Cops, Witnesses Back Up George Zimmerman's Version of Trayvon Martin Shooting

ABCNews.com ^ | May 17, 2012 | By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) , SENI TIENABESO and COLLEEN CURRY

Two police reports written the night that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin said that Zimmerman had a bloody face and nose, according to police reports made public today.

The reports also note that two witness accounts appear to back up Zimmerman's version of what happened when they describe a man on his back with another person wearing a hoodie straddling him and throwing punches. In addition, Trayvon Martin's father told an investigator after listening to 911 tapes that captured a man's voice frantically callling for help that it was not his son calling for help. The new information is part...

Pwns · Post by **Pwns** » Thu May 17, 2012 4:50 pm

BlueHen86 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
If, IF, IF. You have no idea if that's how it went down or not.

I'm not giving him a pass. He might be guilty of something. He might not be guilty of something. I'm just pointing out that someone who wasn't there, doesn't know all the facts, yet says Zimmerman is 100% at fault here is a retard.
IF IF IF? Nothing I said is in dispute.
Zimmerman admitted to following Martin in the 9-1-1 call.
Martin told his girlfriend he was being followed
- and even if you doubt her statement there is the fact that Zimmerman also said on the 9-1-1 call that Martin was trying to get away. He wouldn't have been trying to get away unless he knew was being followed.

As for 100% - I stick by that. You can assign any number you like, but it still comes down to an irresponsible adult shooting a teenager.

Martin has some responsibility for it. Just because some tin-pot wannabe cop is trailing you doesn't give you the right to pummel them.

Post by **SeattleGriz** » Thu May 17, 2012 5:25 pm

DSUrocks07 wrote:
Bronco wrote:
THC=weed

no surprise there. not sure how important it is tho.

I don't think the weed is important to the case, but where it is important, is how the left jumped on Zimmerman's statement that Martin looked to be on drugs at the time in his 911 call. Shows how quick they were to convict Zimmerman and dismiss everything he said.

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Thu May 17, 2012 5:28 pm

Bronco wrote:
Zimmerman, 28, is a multi-racial Hispanic man

Multiracial? So we're multiracial now, as opposed to being a "real" minority. After all, he HAS to be multiracial, because people of pure minority blood dont kill others like them. 'Sposed to stick together. Must have been his white blood that made him pull the trigger.

Multiracial hispanic. Hmm. Maybe our multiracial black President will weigh in on this issue again and soothe the multiracial tensions in this country.

Also Sodomy

Post by **BlueHen86** » Thu May 17, 2012 5:29 pm

SeattleGriz wrote:
DSUrocks07 wrote:
THC=weed

no surprise there. not sure how important it is tho.
I don't think the weed is important to the case, but where it is important, is how the left jumped on Zimmerman's statement that Martin looked to be on drugs at the time in his 911 call. Shows how quick they were to convict Zimmerman and dismiss everything he said.

When was the last time a guy high on weed beat the shit out of someone?

Post by **SDHornet** » Thu May 17, 2012 6:18 pm

DSUrocks07 wrote: THC=weed

no surprise there. not sure how important it is tho.

This.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Thu May 17, 2012 6:30 pm

BlueHen86 wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
I don't think the weed is important to the case, but where it is important, is how the left jumped on Zimmerman's statement that Martin looked to be on drugs at the time in his 911 call. Shows how quick they were to convict Zimmerman and dismiss everything he said.
When was the last time a guy high on weed beat the shit out of someone?

I used to destroy Toni's pizzas when I was stoned.

Post by **SDHornet** » Thu May 17, 2012 6:31 pm

Grizalltheway wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
When was the last time a guy high on weed beat the shit out of someone?
I used to destroy Toni's pizzas when I was stoned.

Post by **BlueHen86** » Thu May 17, 2012 7:19 pm

Prosecutors on Thursday made public a trove of evidence used to justify murder charges against Neighborhood Watch volunteer George Zimmerman, including a police report that concluded "the encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman."

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/ ... erman?lite" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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