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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:42 pm
HI54UNI wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:34 am

You are living proof that this is a stupid idea.
Obviously not. I voted against Trump both times. It's the people who voted FOR Trump you need to worry about. And that was largely White people without college degrees and/or White fundamentalist Christians.
And apparently white people who make good money.

Oh, and idiots who voted for Biden own $5/gallon gas, WWIII, historic inflation, empty store shelves, inability to control the pandemic and any number of other things that he’s fucked up in just 13 months.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:20 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:58 pm
This Mcormick guy I hadn’t heard of before a few months ago. I see he was West Point & 9 years Army (Ranger school/82nd Airbone/1st Gulf War).
Under secretary in Commerce & Treasury Depts in Bush admin.
In the private sector rose to CEO of software services company & world’s largest hedge fund.

Slew of conks running. Seeing recent sources saying for the conk seat likely come down to McCormick and Dr Oz. Each has major conk emdorsements. BP endorsement is a huge get for McCormick. May come down to who Trump endorses..
https://nypost.com/2022/02/09/border-pa ... mccormick/

And of course this PA race will be crucial to conks getting control of Senate..
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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:15 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:35 am So that noted “conservative” Constitutional scholar JohnStOoge wants a “rule” limiting the electorate to people with “at least” college degrees. :lol:

Works for me! Just make sure there’s a carve-out for McNeese alums.
I'd never really do it. But at this time in history we'd be better off. Actually, looking at polling, we'd be best off if only people with graduate degrees could vote. And I don't think only allowing the most educated and/or intelligent people vote sounds that bad.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:41 pm 2022 is going to be a bloodbath for Donks. As is 2024. Might as well get used to that concept. Stalwart multi-decade BLUE counties full of Hispanics in South Texas are red-pilling in record numbers.
I think one obviously has to think things will be bad for Democrats in 2022 regardless of what Hispanics do. But, while I do look at the ABC News/Washington Post poll as the best one overall, there is reason to hope that what we see in this particular one with respect to Hispanics is sampling error. Not error in terms of doing something wrong in sampling. Just the normal probability error that is associated with statistical estimates.

Other polls still show Democrats with a big lead among Hispanics. like for instance the latest Harris poll has Democrats up by 71% to 29% among Hispanics (https://mcusercontent.com/ca678077bc522 ... k_002_.pdf), the latest YouGov poll has them up by 60% to 36% among that group, and the latest YouGov poll has them up by 53% to 23% among them.

i just posted about the ABC News/Washington Post poll because i don think it's the best poll over time and it's notable when you see something like that in it.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:48 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:42 pm

Obviously not. I voted against Trump both times. It's the people who voted FOR Trump you need to worry about. And that was largely White people without college degrees and/or White fundamentalist Christians.
And apparently white people who make good money.

Oh, and idiots who voted for Biden own $5/gallon gas, WWIII, historic inflation, empty store shelves, inability to control the pandemic and any number of other things that he’s fucked up in just 13 months.
A solid majority of the people who are highly educated understand that the high gas prices, Putin invading Ukraine, the inflation, and the somewhat depleted store shelves are not because of Biden just as they understood that the continuation of a reasonably good economy under Trump wasn't because of Trump. And they recognize that the pandemic is a lot more under control right now than it was when Biden took office took office.

They understand that, while Trump took over during easy times, Biden took over during tough times. Unfortunately, the majority of the population is not highly educated.
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Winterborn wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:03 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:20 pm

Is it Mcormick or McCormick?
McCormick :tothehand:

Only proper way to spell it as the guy who invented the reaper was Cyrus McCormick. Modern farming would be very different without his invention (and John Deere's steel plow).
You didn't spell it wrong like the person that posted it. Must be a Sunbelt thingy.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:46 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:48 pm

And apparently white people who make good money.

Oh, and idiots who voted for Biden own $5/gallon gas, WWIII, historic inflation, empty store shelves, inability to control the pandemic and any number of other things that he’s fucked up in just 13 months.
A solid majority of the people who are highly educated understand that the high gas prices, Putin invading Ukraine, the inflation, and the somewhat depleted store shelves are not because of Biden just as they understood that the continuation of a reasonably good economy under Trump wasn't because of Trump. And they recognize that the pandemic is a lot more under control right now than it was when Biden took office took office.

They understand that, while Trump took over during easy times, Biden took over during tough times. Unfortunately, the majority of the population is not highly educated.
If that were true Biden wouldn’t have a 37% approval rating. But keep digging.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:30 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:41 pm 2022 is going to be a bloodbath for Donks. As is 2024. Might as well get used to that concept. Stalwart multi-decade BLUE counties full of Hispanics in South Texas are red-pilling in record numbers.
I think one obviously has to think things will be bad for Democrats in 2022 regardless of what Hispanics do. But, while I do look at the ABC News/Washington Post poll as the best one overall, there is reason to hope that what we see in this particular one with respect to Hispanics is sampling error. Not error in terms of doing something wrong in sampling. Just the normal probability error that is associated with statistical estimates.

Other polls still show Democrats with a big lead among Hispanics. like for instance the latest Harris poll has Democrats up by 71% to 29% among Hispanics (https://mcusercontent.com/ca678077bc522 ... k_002_.pdf), the latest YouGov poll has them up by 60% to 36% among that group, and the latest YouGov poll has them up by 53% to 23% among them.

i just posted about the ABC News/Washington Post poll because i don think it's the best poll over time and it's notable when you see something like that in it.
Yes, yes. Any poll that goes against your narrative MUST be “polling error”…. :rofl: :rofl:
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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:15 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:35 am So that noted “conservative” Constitutional scholar JohnStOoge wants a “rule” limiting the electorate to people with “at least” college degrees. :lol:

Works for me! Just make sure there’s a carve-out for McNeese alums.
I'd never really do it. But at this time in history we'd be better off. Actually, looking at polling, we'd be best off if only people with graduate degrees could vote. And I don't think only allowing the most educated and/or intelligent people vote sounds that bad.
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Ivytalk wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:51 am
JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:15 pm

I'd never really do it. But at this time in history we'd be better off. Actually, looking at polling, we'd be best off if only people with graduate degrees could vote. And I don't think only allowing the most educated and/or intelligent people vote sounds that bad.
William F. Buckley once said that he’d rather be governed by the first 2,000 people in the Manhattan phone book than by the entire Harvard faculty. So much for government by eggheads.

Two of our worst Presidents — Nixon and Carter — had high IQs. Bill Clinton is a close third, and nobody will put Barack Obama on Rushmore. Equating intellect with governing (or voting) skill is a fool’s errand. But you know that.
What's the connection between high IQ and Mt. Rushmore... :?
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Interesting that some on the left are advocating voter suppression to those with degrees, while others are advocating flooding the electorate with mostly undereducated peoples from around the world through open borders.

It is very confusing.


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houndawg wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:58 am
Ivytalk wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:51 am

William F. Buckley once said that he’d rather be governed by the first 2,000 people in the Manhattan phone book than by the entire Harvard faculty. So much for government by eggheads.

Two of our worst Presidents — Nixon and Carter — had high IQs. Bill Clinton is a close third, and nobody will put Barack Obama on Rushmore. Equating intellect with governing (or voting) skill is a fool’s errand. But you know that.
What's the connection between high IQ and Mt. Rushmore... :?
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Ivytalk wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:31 am
houndawg wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:58 am

What's the connection between high IQ and Mt. Rushmore... :?
It’s a figure of speech. Rushmore is meant for great Presidents, not for nunchucks like our recent mediocrities. But you knew that.
Really? How come Reagan isn't up there?
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LeadBolt wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:00 am Interesting that some on the left are advocating voter suppression to those with degrees, while others are advocating flooding the electorate with mostly undereducated peoples from around the world through open borders.

It is very confusing.


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How is that confusing? Looks pretty straightforward...
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:23 pm More evidence that we should make a rule where only people with at least a college degree should be able to vote.

WOW! You've come full circle to Jim Crow-esque voting requirements. How about you have to earn at least $100k/annually to vote as well? :dunce:

Level of education should NOT be a barrier to participating in a free society and you're a damn fool to believe so. That's probably the most anti-Democratic thing you've said.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:15 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:35 am So that noted “conservative” Constitutional scholar JohnStOoge wants a “rule” limiting the electorate to people with “at least” college degrees. :lol:

Works for me! Just make sure there’s a carve-out for McNeese alums.
I'd never really do it. But at this time in history we'd be better off. Actually, looking at polling, we'd be best off if only people with graduate degrees could vote. And I don't think only allowing the most educated and/or intelligent people vote sounds that bad.
Spoke too soon...you're a fucking idiot.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:48 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:42 pm

Obviously not. I voted against Trump both times. It's the people who voted FOR Trump you need to worry about. And that was largely White people without college degrees and/or White fundamentalist Christians.
And apparently white people who make good money.

Oh, and idiots who voted for Biden own $5/gallon gas, WWIII, historic inflation, empty store shelves, inability to control the pandemic and any number of other things that he’s fucked up in just 13 months.
:roll: Yes because the threat of inflation didn't exist in 2020 with a Pandemic, supply chain issues and stimulus checks. C'mon AZ, you're better than this .
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:10 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:48 pm

And apparently white people who make good money.

Oh, and idiots who voted for Biden own $5/gallon gas, WWIII, historic inflation, empty store shelves, inability to control the pandemic and any number of other things that he’s fucked up in just 13 months.
:roll: Yes because the threat of inflation didn't exist in 2020 with a Pandemic, supply chain issues and stimulus checks. C'mon AZ, you're better than this .
The Fed sitting on their asses for the past 14 months certainly hasn’t helped. Our Transportation Secretary taking months of “paternity leave” during the middle of a supply chain crisis certainly hasn’t helped. You want me to go on, because I could.

C’mon, Stickybuns, you’re better than this.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:47 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:10 am
:roll: Yes because the threat of inflation didn't exist in 2020 with a Pandemic, supply chain issues and stimulus checks. C'mon AZ, you're better than this .
The Fed sitting on their asses for the past 14 months certainly hasn’t helped. Our Transportation Secretary taking months of “paternity leave” during the middle of a supply chain crisis certainly hasn’t helped. You want me to go on, because I could.

C’mon, Stickybuns, you’re better than this.
Biden and his administration have a lot of problems and have a lot of blame, but we have to be mindful that nothing happens in a vacuum and that the Fed Gov't isn't the only bureaucracy at play.

To the me, the criticisms should be levied at their RESPONSES to the situations instead of assigning blame to them - that implies they've caused it when in reality, they most likely didn't. Biden didn't create inflation - his response to it hasn't helped. Biden and Pete didn't create a supply chain crisis, but their response could've been stronger (maybe, i'm not too sure.)

The Fed has been on their assess for longer than 14 months. JPOWs printer was on for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too long. Stimulus check after stimulus check coupled with low pay, mask mandates, capacity mandates, the world stopping for a month or more really showed how vulnerable and weak we are. We'd be facing similar circumstances regardless of who the POTUS is. But still, a lot of these issues stem from the Pandemic and the domino effect it had on everything.

And I'm not sure what more the Fed Gov't, especially Buttigieg, could have done. Pete taking time off to be with his children is bad optics but that's a nit picky thing, IMO. The inefficiency and draconian regulations governing California made it more difficult to quickly get cargo off the ships, coupled with failure to get those ships over to the East Coast sooner than they had.
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:05 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:47 am

The Fed sitting on their asses for the past 14 months certainly hasn’t helped. Our Transportation Secretary taking months of “paternity leave” during the middle of a supply chain crisis certainly hasn’t helped. You want me to go on, because I could.

C’mon, Stickybuns, you’re better than this.
Biden and his administration have a lot of problems and have a lot of blame, but we have to be mindful that nothing happens in a vacuum and that the Fed Gov't isn't the only bureaucracy at play.

To the me, the criticisms should be levied at their RESPONSES to the situations instead of assigning blame to them - that implies they've caused it when in reality, they most likely didn't. Biden didn't create inflation - his response to it hasn't helped. Biden and Pete didn't create a supply chain crisis, but their response could've been stronger (maybe, i'm not too sure.)

The Fed has been on their assess for longer than 14 months. JPOWs printer was on for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too long. Stimulus check after stimulus check coupled with low pay, mask mandates, capacity mandates, the world stopping for a month or more really showed how vulnerable and weak we are. We'd be facing similar circumstances regardless of who the POTUS is. But still, a lot of these issues stem from the Pandemic and the domino effect it had on everything.

And I'm not sure what more the Fed Gov't, especially Buttigieg, could have done. Pete taking time off to be with his children is bad optics but that's a nit picky thing, IMO. The inefficiency and draconian regulations governing California made it more difficult to quickly get cargo off the ships, coupled with failure to get those ships over to the East Coast sooner than they had.
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Fed delays exacerbated inflation. Everyone (except JSO) knows when you print that kind of money and inject it into the system, inflation is going to follow. They did nothing. Biden did nothing. Except force through ANOTHER stimulus package that exacerbated an already shitty situation.

The supply chain issues existed to some degree. Biden’s failure to respond exacerbated an already shitty situation. They did nothing. Except support local laws that made a shitty problem even worse.

As I’ve said many times, their every action is a RE-action. They do nothing proactive, despite years and years of history to show what’s going to happen. it’s like there’s not a single strategic thinker in the entire cabinet.

While the country has been spiraling down the shitter at an ever-increasing pace, Biden’s admin is worried that he not piss off the wokes, worried about the color of the skin of his SC nominee, worried about the effect Putin’s war will have on the fucking climate. THAT kind of shit.

But hey, the pandemic is a convenient excuse. Sure glad it was solved right before the super bowl and mid-term primaries. :roll: :roll:
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Right now, the best democratically elected President in the world is a comedian who played Hava Nagila on the piano with his dick

You don’t get leaders like that by limiting the vote to the intelligentsia that’s for sure


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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:22 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:05 am
Biden and his administration have a lot of problems and have a lot of blame, but we have to be mindful that nothing happens in a vacuum and that the Fed Gov't isn't the only bureaucracy at play.

To the me, the criticisms should be levied at their RESPONSES to the situations instead of assigning blame to them - that implies they've caused it when in reality, they most likely didn't. Biden didn't create inflation - his response to it hasn't helped. Biden and Pete didn't create a supply chain crisis, but their response could've been stronger (maybe, i'm not too sure.)

The Fed has been on their assess for longer than 14 months. JPOWs printer was on for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too long. Stimulus check after stimulus check coupled with low pay, mask mandates, capacity mandates, the world stopping for a month or more really showed how vulnerable and weak we are. We'd be facing similar circumstances regardless of who the POTUS is. But still, a lot of these issues stem from the Pandemic and the domino effect it had on everything.

And I'm not sure what more the Fed Gov't, especially Buttigieg, could have done. Pete taking time off to be with his children is bad optics but that's a nit picky thing, IMO. The inefficiency and draconian regulations governing California made it more difficult to quickly get cargo off the ships, coupled with failure to get those ships over to the East Coast sooner than they had.
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Fed delays exacerbated inflation. Everyone (except JSO) knows when you print that kind of money and inject it into the system, inflation is going to follow. They did nothing. Biden did nothing. Except force through ANOTHER stimulus package that exacerbated an already shitty situation.

The supply chain issues existed to some degree. Biden’s failure to respond exacerbated an already shitty situation. They did nothing. Except support local laws that made a shitty problem even worse.

As I’ve said many times, their every action is a RE-action. They do nothing proactive, despite years and years of history to show what’s going to happen. it’s like there’s not a single strategic thinker in the entire cabinet.

While the country has been spiraling down the shitter at an ever-increasing pace, Biden’s admin is worried that he not piss off the wokes, worried about the color of the skin of his SC nominee, worried about the effect Putin’s war will have on the fucking climate. THAT kind of shit.

But hey, the pandemic is a convenient excuse. Sure glad it was solved right before the super bowl and mid-term primaries. :roll: :roll:
So...you agree with me that it was Biden's response (or lack of) that is really at fault. I'm glad we can agree on that. :lol: :kisswink:
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CID1990 wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:28 am Right now, the best democratically elected President in the world is a comedian who played Hava Nagila on the piano with his dick

You don’t get leaders like that by limiting the vote to the intelligentsia that’s for sure


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Ibanez wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:32 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:22 am

Fed delays exacerbated inflation. Everyone (except JSO) knows when you print that kind of money and inject it into the system, inflation is going to follow. They did nothing. Biden did nothing. Except force through ANOTHER stimulus package that exacerbated an already shitty situation.

The supply chain issues existed to some degree. Biden’s failure to respond exacerbated an already shitty situation. They did nothing. Except support local laws that made a shitty problem even worse.

As I’ve said many times, their every action is a RE-action. They do nothing proactive, despite years and years of history to show what’s going to happen. it’s like there’s not a single strategic thinker in the entire cabinet.

While the country has been spiraling down the shitter at an ever-increasing pace, Biden’s admin is worried that he not piss off the wokes, worried about the color of the skin of his SC nominee, worried about the effect Putin’s war will have on the fucking climate. THAT kind of shit.

But hey, the pandemic is a convenient excuse. Sure glad it was solved right before the super bowl and mid-term primaries. :roll: :roll:
So...you agree with me that it was Biden's response (or lack of) that is really at fault. I'm glad we can agree on that. :lol: :kisswink:
Well no shit, Sherlock. His LACK of response is what caused/exacerbated many of these issues. i thought that was pretty plain, when I’m blaming him and saying he owns this shit.
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Re: 2022 Elections Thread

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Biden owns the energy problems. Anybody with a brain that voted for him knew what direction he would take things.
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