2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Political discussions
User avatar
UNI88
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 23411
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
I am a fan of: UNI
Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by UNI88 »

BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:16 pm Going to end up tossing convictions of several hundred J6ers, and 2 of the 4 J6 counts against Trump.
WASHINGTON, June 28 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court's ruling on Friday that federal prosecutors erred in how they charged a man for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol began to take effect on some of the 249 people convicted of obstructing an official proceeding.
A federal judge shortly after the ruling ordered the re-sentencing of one man found guilty of that offense, which Donald Trumpalso faces.

The court found that the Justice Department improperly used a law passed in the wake of energy firm Enron Corp's collapse when it charged defendant Joseph Fischer with corruptly obstructing an official proceeding - the congressional certification of President Joe Biden's victory over Trump.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/what-us-s ... -06-28/?n=@
Coney Barrett got it right ...
“Given these premises, the case that Fischer can be tried for ‘obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding’ seems open and shut. So why does the Court hold otherwise?” the conservative justice wrote in a dissent joined by liberals Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. “Because it simply cannot believe that Congress meant what it said.”
Barrett breaks with conservatives over Jan. 6 obstruction charge ruling
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qonspiracy theories since 2015.
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 30610
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by BDKJMU »

UNI88 wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:41 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:16 pm Going to end up tossing convictions of several hundred J6ers, and 2 of the 4 J6 counts against Trump.


https://www.reuters.com/legal/what-us-s ... -06-28/?n=@
Coney Barrett got it right ...
“Given these premises, the case that Fischer can be tried for ‘obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding’ seems open and shut. So why does the Court hold otherwise?” the conservative justice wrote in a dissent joined by liberals Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. “Because it simply cannot believe that Congress meant what it said.”
Barrett breaks with conservatives over Jan. 6 obstruction charge ruling
No she didn’t. Brown did. Strange befellows for a 6-3 decision.
Proud deplorable Ultra MAGA fascist NAZI trash clinging to my guns and religion (and whatever else I’ve been labeled by Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris).
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Image
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 62739
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by kalm »

BREAKING NEWS…

SCOTUS authorizes Biden to remove Trump via Seal Team 6.
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 30610
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by BDKJMU »

kalm wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:47 am BREAKING NEWS…

SCOTUS authorizes Biden to remove Trump via Seal Team 6.
Typical and expected leftist histrionics response to a misreading of the ruling.
Proud deplorable Ultra MAGA fascist NAZI trash clinging to my guns and religion (and whatever else I’ve been labeled by Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris).
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Image
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
User avatar
UNI88
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 23411
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
I am a fan of: UNI
Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River

2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by UNI88 »

BDKJMU wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:41 am

Coney Barrett got it right ...



Barrett breaks with conservatives over Jan. 6 obstruction charge ruling
No she didn’t. Brown did. Strange befellows for a 6-3 decision.
I think your analysis of SCOTUS rulings is based on what’s best for trump and MAQA yahoos in the short term not common sense, law & order or what’s best for the country in the long term.

The best justices on this court are Coney-Barrett, Brown, Roberts, Gorsuch, Kagan and Kavanaugh who rule based on their interpretation of the law rather than twisting the law to fit their political ideology (like the originalists in name only).


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Last edited by UNI88 on Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:18 am, edited 1 time in total.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qonspiracy theories since 2015.
User avatar
UNI88
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 23411
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
I am a fan of: UNI
Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by UNI88 »

BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:47 am BREAKING NEWS…

SCOTUS authorizes Biden to remove Trump via Seal Team 6.
Typical and expected leftist histrionics response to a misreading of the ruling.
The House would be free to impeach biden and the Senate would be free not to convict. Anything beyond that would just be “lawfare”. :coffee:


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qonspiracy theories since 2015.
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 30610
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by BDKJMU »

UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:18 am
BDKJMU wrote: No she didn’t. Brown did. Strange befellows for a 6-3 decision.
I think your analysis of SCOTUS rulings is based on what’s best for trump and MAQA yahoos in the short term not common sense, law & order or what’s best for the country in the long term.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Got it. You think the 6 justices in Fischer are wrong, and 2 of the 2 libs and Barrett are right.

The statute under 2002 Sarbanes-Oxley 2002 was driven by accounting fraud & document destruction. If it had been applied in the way it was being applied against J6ers equally, there would have been ALOT more than J6ers charged. Yet it has only been used in the way it was against J6ers, against J6ers.
Proud deplorable Ultra MAGA fascist NAZI trash clinging to my guns and religion (and whatever else I’ve been labeled by Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris).
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Image
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 30610
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by BDKJMU »

Proud deplorable Ultra MAGA fascist NAZI trash clinging to my guns and religion (and whatever else I’ve been labeled by Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris).
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Image
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 30610
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by BDKJMU »

Proud deplorable Ultra MAGA fascist NAZI trash clinging to my guns and religion (and whatever else I’ve been labeled by Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris).
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Image
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 62739
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by kalm »

Image
Image
Image
User avatar
UNI88
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 23411
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
I am a fan of: UNI
Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by UNI88 »

Did SCOTUS commit treason by giving aid and comfort to enemies of the United States of America?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qonspiracy theories since 2015.
User avatar
UNI88
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 23411
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
I am a fan of: UNI
Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by UNI88 »

BDKJMU wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:18 am I think your analysis of SCOTUS rulings is based on what’s best for trump and MAQA yahoos in the short term not common sense, law & order or what’s best for the country in the long term.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Got it. You think the 6 justices in Fischer are wrong, and 2 of the 2 libs and Barrett are right.

The statute under 2002 Sarbanes-Oxley 2002 was driven by accounting fraud & document destruction. If it had been applied in the way it was being applied against traitors to the US equally, there would have been ALOT more than traitors to the US charged. Yet it has only been used in the way it was against traitors to the US.
FYP

I’ve clearly stated that I think this is a pretty good court. I think that because of the 6 justices I listed and despite the clowns that I didn’t list. That doesn’t mean that I’m always going to agree with their rulings.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qonspiracy theories since 2015.
User avatar
Skjellyfetti
Anal
Anal
Posts: 14505
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:56 pm
I am a fan of: Appalachian

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by Skjellyfetti »

BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:09 am
Directing Seal Team 6 is an official act. And a core Constitutionally delegated responsibility as Commander-In-Chief.

What would make it murder is motive. Motive can't be used to determine if it is an official vs unofficial act according to the ruling.
"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
- Richard Burr, (R-NC)
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 30610
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by BDKJMU »

Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:32 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:09 am
Directing Seal Team 6 is an official act. And a core Constitutionally delegated responsibility as Commander-In-Chief.

What would make it murder is motive. Motive can't be used to determine if it is an official vs unofficial act according to the ruling.
First of all if Biden gave that order Seal Team 6 would tell Biden to go fuck himself.
Proud deplorable Ultra MAGA fascist NAZI trash clinging to my guns and religion (and whatever else I’ve been labeled by Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris).
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Image
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
User avatar
Skjellyfetti
Anal
Anal
Posts: 14505
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:56 pm
I am a fan of: Appalachian

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by Skjellyfetti »

BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:51 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:32 pm

Directing Seal Team 6 is an official act. And a core Constitutionally delegated responsibility as Commander-In-Chief.

What would make it murder is motive. Motive can't be used to determine if it is an official vs unofficial act according to the ruling.
First of all if Biden gave that order Seal Team 6 would tell Biden to go fuck himself.
i agree that they probably would. so, as long as seal team 6 is ordered to assassinate a candidate they don't like - it's cool?

or using a drone where some dork on a computer is just given coordinates and doesn't know who is targeted?
"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
- Richard Burr, (R-NC)
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 30610
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by BDKJMU »

Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:04 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:51 pm
First of all if Biden gave that order Seal Team 6 would tell Biden to go fuck himself.
i agree that they probably would. so, as long as seal team 6 is ordered to assassinate a candidate they don't like - it's cool?

or using a drone where some dork on a computer is just given coordinates and doesn't know who is targeted?
Like Biden did with the Afghan family?
Proud deplorable Ultra MAGA fascist NAZI trash clinging to my guns and religion (and whatever else I’ve been labeled by Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris).
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Image
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 62739
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by kalm »

Image
Image
Image
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 62739
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by kalm »

Image
Image
Image
houndawg
Level5
Level5
Posts: 24609
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
I am a fan of: SIU
A.K.A.: houndawg
Location: Egypt

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by houndawg »

BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:39 pm SCOTUS 6-3 strikes down the Chevron Deference, a deferemce granted to federal agencies as long as their interpretations of fed rules were "reasonable" & Congress had not spoken directly on those rules. If Congress hasn’t spoken to it, then unelected DC bureacrats shouldn’t be allowed to rule on it, as they have been, with little oversight from Congress. This ruling is a huge blow to the overbearing govt regulatory state, and a victory for small businesses & American citizens.
and an even huger blow to clean air and water for your grandchildren :coffee:

so sad...
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.


"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 62739
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by kalm »

Image
Image
Image
houndawg
Level5
Level5
Posts: 24609
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
I am a fan of: SIU
A.K.A.: houndawg
Location: Egypt

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by houndawg »

BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:51 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:32 pm

Directing Seal Team 6 is an official act. And a core Constitutionally delegated responsibility as Commander-In-Chief.

What would make it murder is motive. Motive can't be used to determine if it is an official vs unofficial act according to the ruling.
First of all if Biden gave that order Seal Team 6 would tell Biden to go fuck himself.
You don't know anything about what S6 would do or not do.

you're just worried that Biden will do first what you want trump to do :coffee:
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.


"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 62739
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by kalm »

houndawg wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:06 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:39 pm SCOTUS 6-3 strikes down the Chevron Deference, a deferemce granted to federal agencies as long as their interpretations of fed rules were "reasonable" & Congress had not spoken directly on those rules. If Congress hasn’t spoken to it, then unelected DC bureacrats shouldn’t be allowed to rule on it, as they have been, with little oversight from Congress. This ruling is a huge blow to the overbearing govt regulatory state, and a victory for small businesses & American citizens.
and an even huger blow to clean air and water for your grandchildren :coffee:

so sad...
BDK’s bolded part illustrates why this is purely political/financial. Environmental standards should be agreed upon by the people with expert input.
Image
Image
Image
houndawg
Level5
Level5
Posts: 24609
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
I am a fan of: SIU
A.K.A.: houndawg
Location: Egypt

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by houndawg »

kalm wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:07 am
Thats what happens when you bring up players from the junior varsity before they're ready to compete at that level.
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.


"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 30610
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by BDKJMU »

kalm wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:15 am
houndawg wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:06 am

and an even huger blow to clean air and water for your grandchildren :coffee:

so sad...
BDK’s bolded part illustrates why this is purely political/financial. Environmental standards should be agreed upon by the people with expert input[_\b].

And unelected govt bureaucrats have no business setting those standards.
Proud deplorable Ultra MAGA fascist NAZI trash clinging to my guns and religion (and whatever else I’ve been labeled by Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris).
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Image
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 30610
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: 2024 SCOTUS Rulings Thread

Post by BDKJMU »

houndawg wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:13 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:51 pm
First of all if Biden gave that order Seal Team 6 would tell Biden to go fuck himself.
You don't know anything about what S6 would do or not do.

you're just worried that Biden will do first what you want trump to do :coffee:
Lol I know a lot more about what they would do than you do. :nod:
Proud deplorable Ultra MAGA fascist NAZI trash clinging to my guns and religion (and whatever else I’ve been labeled by Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris).
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Image
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
Post Reply