Dem Civil War

[houndawg]

Common sense is confusing to Klam

You posted this right after my response and rather than counter my points, this is all you got.

Must be frustrating.

He's trying his best, cut him some slack

[houndawg]

AOChe is like a donk version of trump - polarizing but she has an appeal that her opponents struggle to understand.

You could be right on the others, especially Shapiro which is unfortunate.

To much of a ghetto queen attitude from AOC

If she has mass appeal the USA should kiss its ass goodbye

"Too" much....

[houndawg]

good start

[houndawg]

It won't be harris.

AOChe would appeal to the Donk base and while her progressivism would hurt her in the general election I think she would do better than you expect. She's got 10x the charisma of harris and even though I disagree with much of it her message is stronger.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Donk governors like Shapiro, Bashear, Whitmer, Pritzker, etc. IMO the strongest 2028 candidate likely comes from that pool.

Lawl I hope it’s AOChe. She‘d get destroyed.

It won‘t be Gov Hide My Face:


After twice pinning all their hopes and dreams on shattering the glass ceiling and going into Election Day believing they were going to win, I don‘t see the donks risking defeat a 3rd time with a female candidate .

It won‘t be Butigeg. Unspoken that a lot of black primary voters won‘t vote for a gay white guy.

Same goes for Shapiro. The Taliban pro Hamas wing of the donk party isn‘t voting for a Jewish candidate.

It won‘t be Pritzker unless he loses a ton of weight. Americans will vote for a fat POTUS (see Trump). They won‘t for a morbidly obese one.

That leaves Bashear. I don‘t think it will be him, though. Are others like MD Gov Wes Moore, or someone not even mentioned now.

They already have - thats why Trump has never been measured in his socks. even for his mug shot. He's barely 5" 11" and way into morbidly obese territory already.

What was the first thing he said after the first staged "asassination attempt"? Even before he posed for his "fight fight fight" publicity pic?

Yep - "Where are my shoes?"

Not like he's the first guy to lie about his height - Joe Montana was only 5' 11".

[GannonFan]

Lawl I hope it’s AOChe. She‘d get destroyed.

It won‘t be Gov Hide My Face:


After twice pinning all their hopes and dreams on shattering the glass ceiling and going into Election Day believing they were going to win, I don‘t see the donks risking defeat a 3rd time with a female candidate .

It won‘t be Butigeg. Unspoken that a lot of black primary voters won‘t vote for a gay white guy.

Same goes for Shapiro. The Taliban pro Hamas wing of the donk party isn‘t voting for a Jewish candidate.

It won‘t be Pritzker unless he loses a ton of weight. Americans will vote for a fat POTUS (see Trump). They won‘t for a morbidly obese one.

That leaves Bashear. I don‘t think it will be him, though. Are others like MD Gov Wes Moore, or someone not even mentioned now.

They already have - thats why Trump has never been measured in his socks. even for his mug shot. He's barely 5" 11" and way into morbidly obese territory already.

What was the first thing he said after the first staged "asassination attempt"? Even before he posed for his "fight fight fight" publicity pic?

Yep - "Where are my shoes?"

Not like he's the first guy to lie about his height - Joe Montana was only 5' 11".

Hey, so are you of the conspiracy belief that there was never an assassination attempt on Trump, that the shooting at the rally didn't happen or was staged? I've been hearing that from time to time from friends of mine who I would certainly describe as leaning to the left. Do you believe it was staged or fake? How do you explain the guy who died being struck by one of the fake bullets? An accident? I really thought the far right was the sole owner of whacky conspiracies but am interested in the speed in which the far left is trying to play catch-up in this regard.

[Caribbean Hen]

They already have - thats why Trump has never been measured in his socks. even for his mug shot. He's barely 5" 11" and way into morbidly obese territory already.

What was the first thing he said after the first staged "asassination attempt"? Even before he posed for his "fight fight fight" publicity pic?

Yep - "Where are my shoes?"

Not like he's the first guy to lie about his height - Joe Montana was only 5' 11".

Hey, so are you of the conspiracy belief that there was never an assassination attempt on Trump, that the shooting at the rally didn't happen or was staged? I've been hearing that from time to time from friends of mine who I would certainly describe as leaning to the left. Do you believe it was staged or fake? How do you explain the guy who died being struck by one of the fake bullets? An accident? I really thought the far right was the sole owner of whacky conspiracies but am interested in the speed in which the far left is trying to play catch-up in this regard.

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt

he doesn’t actually believe it, he just likes to to post it

But I do believe a lot of people do believe it, and I got that sense by watching a young man doing interviews in urban areas before the election

Not only was one innocent bystander killed, Secret Service greased the little greaseball that took the shot at Trump.

[BDKJMU]

Well, the pro Hamas loonies on the left ordered a Code Red on Fetterman..

Leaks to media about Fetterman are a coordinated smear campaign, Hill colleagues say
GOP Sens. McCormick and Grassley joined Democratic Rep. Torres in defending Fetterman

The media’s pile-on of Pennsylvania Sen. John Fetterman, D-Pa., reached the point where both Republicans and Democrats were lamenting the rhetorical blows landing on the hulking Pittsburgh-area lawmaker by Friday….

….."I know a hit piece when I see one," added Rep. Ritchie Torres, D-N.Y.

"The only reason for the coordinated campaign against Senator John Fetterman is his unapologetic pro-Israel politics," wrote Torres, a Bronx Democrat who also bucks his party on Israel, but is also considered a high-profile progressive.

"Let’s call it what it is. As someone who has struggled with depression my whole adult life, I can tell you that if you truly care about someone’s mental health, leaking hit pieces against them is a strange way of showing it."

Swing-state Pennsylvania has a history of politically opposed senators forging close relationships — such as Republican Pat Toomey and Democrat Bob Casey Jr. for many years.

That trend continued Friday when Sen. David McCormick, R-Pa., stuck up for Fetterman, saying in a statement that "it’s time to put politics aside and stop these vicious, personal attacks against Senator Fetterman, his wife, and his health."….

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/leaks- ... eagues-say

[kalm]

Well, the pro Hamas loonies on the left ordered a Code Red on Fetterman..

Leaks to media about Fetterman are a coordinated smear campaign, Hill colleagues say
GOP Sens. McCormick and Grassley joined Democratic Rep. Torres in defending Fetterman

The media’s pile-on of Pennsylvania Sen. John Fetterman, D-Pa., reached the point where both Republicans and Democrats were lamenting the rhetorical blows landing on the hulking Pittsburgh-area lawmaker by Friday….

….."I know a hit piece when I see one," added Rep. Ritchie Torres, D-N.Y.

"The only reason for the coordinated campaign against Senator John Fetterman is his unapologetic pro-Israel politics," wrote Torres, a Bronx Democrat who also bucks his party on Israel, but is also considered a high-profile progressive.

"Let’s call it what it is. As someone who has struggled with depression my whole adult life, I can tell you that if you truly care about someone’s mental health, leaking hit pieces against them is a strange way of showing it."

Swing-state Pennsylvania has a history of politically opposed senators forging close relationships — such as Republican Pat Toomey and Democrat Bob Casey Jr. for many years.

That trend continued Friday when Sen. David McCormick, R-Pa., stuck up for Fetterman, saying in a statement that "it’s time to put politics aside and stop these vicious, personal attacks against Senator Fetterman, his wife, and his health."….

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/leaks- ... eagues-say

Which congressmen are actually pro Hamas. Are pro Zionist politicians pro-terrorism as well?

The expose that came out last week on Fetterman is sad and revealing. The dude is not well. Noted are the lack of calls from the right for him not being mentally well enough to serve…kinda like Biden.

[BDKJMU]

Well, the pro Hamas loonies on the left ordered a Code Red on Fetterman..

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/leaks- ... eagues-say

Which congressmen are actually pro Hamas. Are pro Zionist politicians pro-terrorism as well?

The expose that came out last week on Fetterman is sad and revealing. The dude is not well. Noted are the lack of calls from the right for him not being mentally well enough to serve…kinda like Biden.

LoL the left in summer-fall 2022 insisted Fetterman, who couldn’t cogently speak at the time, was fine to serve. Now a much more coherent Fetterman isn’t? HYPOCRITES.

[UNI88]

Which congressmen are actually pro Hamas. Are pro Zionist politicians pro-terrorism as well?

The expose that came out last week on Fetterman is sad and revealing. The dude is not well. Noted are the lack of calls from the right for him not being mentally well enough to serve…kinda like Biden.

LoL the left in summer-fall 2018 insisted Fetterman, who couldn’t cogently speak at the time, was fine to serve. Now a much more coherent Fetterman isn’t? HYPOCRITES.

I'll take your word for it since MAQA yahos are subject matter experts on how to be oblivious to their own hypocrisy.

[kalm]

Which congressmen are actually pro Hamas. Are pro Zionist politicians pro-terrorism as well?

The expose that came out last week on Fetterman is sad and revealing. The dude is not well. Noted are the lack of calls from the right for him not being mentally well enough to serve…kinda like Biden.

LoL the left in summer-fall 2018 insisted Fetterman, who couldn’t cogently speak at the time, was fine to serve. Now a much more coherent Fetterman isn’t? HYPOCRITES.

Or he’s declined in the years since. Health can both improve and deteriorate. What evidence of similar behavior from back then do you have? Was it the same?

Hypocrisy can run both ways. He wasn’t fit to serve as a progressive but now that he’s more conservative he’s A okay?

Are you self aware at all?

[BDKJMU]

LoL the left in summer-fall 2018 insisted Fetterman, who couldn’t cogently speak at the time, was fine to serve. Now a much more coherent Fetterman isn’t? HYPOCRITES.

Or he’s declined in the years since. Health can both improve and deteriorate. What evidence of similar behavior from back then do you have? Was it the same?

Hypocrisy can run both ways. He wasn’t fit to serve as a progressive but now that he’s more conservative he’s A okay?

Are you self aware at all?

The numerous clips posted on here of Fetterman summer 2022 through Spring of 2023 when his speaking was a scrambled, jumbled train wreck . Since fall 2023 he has sounded FAR more coherent. There are no scrambled, jumbled train wreck clips.

I remember in 2022 when conks were called meanies by the donks for questioning Fetterman’s ability to serve.

Clearly you aren’t

[UNI88]

Or he’s declined in the years since. Health can both improve and deteriorate. What evidence of similar behavior from back then do you have? Was it the same?

Hypocrisy can run both ways. He wasn’t fit to serve as a progressive but now that he’s more conservative he’s A okay?

Are you self aware at all?

The numerous clips posted on here of Fetterman summer 2018 through Spring of 2019 when his speaking was a scrambled, jumbled train wreck . Since fall 2019 he has sounded FAR more coherent. There are no scrambled, jumbled train wreck clips.

I remember in 2018 when conks were called meanies by the donks for questioning Fetterman’s ability to serve.

Clearly you aren’t

The irony of this little pissing match is rich. BDK could be right and projecting at the same time.

John Fetterman finds himself increasingly alone

Schumer told reporters that Fetterman is an “all-star” who is “doing a good job.” Peter Welch (D-Vt.), who joined the Senate in the same class as Fetterman, “recently had dinner with Senator Fetterman,” a spokesperson said. “He’s a friend and he’ll continue to support him.” Rep. Chris Deluzio (D-Pa.), a fellow western Pennsylvania Democrat, said Fetterman has been “up front in the past about his mental health treatment,” and “should get a chance to weigh in and address the reports here.”

Rep. Dwight Evans (D-Pa.), who has suffered his own health setbacks since having a stroke in 2024, said that he had “no” concerns about Fetterman’s fitness. But he also acknowledged that he has not talked with him recently, something he didn’t read too much into and said was “par for the course.”

[kalm]

Or he’s declined in the years since. Health can both improve and deteriorate. What evidence of similar behavior from back then do you have? Was it the same?

Hypocrisy can run both ways. He wasn’t fit to serve as a progressive but now that he’s more conservative he’s A okay?

Are you self aware at all?

The numerous clips posted on here of Fetterman summer 2018 through Spring of 2019 when his speaking was a scrambled, jumbled train wreck . Since fall 2019 he has sounded FAR more coherent. There are no scrambled, jumbled train wreck clips.

I remember in 2018 when conks were called meanies by the donks for questioning Fetterman’s ability to serve.

Clearly you aren’t

So his post stroke recovery was not the same as the allegations from his own staff and IIRC, even his wife, are now.

You just care whether or not his politics align with yours. Mental issues and health concerns or not.

Thanks.

[BDKJMU]

The numerous clips posted on here of Fetterman summer 2018 through Spring of 2019 when his speaking was a scrambled, jumbled train wreck . Since fall 2019 he has sounded FAR more coherent. There are no scrambled, jumbled train wreck clips.

I remember in 2018 when conks were called meanies by the donks for questioning Fetterman’s ability to serve.

Clearly you aren’t

So his post stroke recovery was not the same as the allegations from his own staff and IIRC, even his wife, are now.

The democrats just care whether or not his politics align with theirs. Mental issues and health concerns or not.

Thanks.

FIFY.

And It wasn’t 2018-2019. Was 2022-2023. I was off by 4 years, so it hasn’t been that long .

[UNI88]

So his post stroke recovery was not the same as the allegations from his own staff and IIRC, even his wife, are now.

Radical lunatics like the two of us just care whether or not his (or any politician’s)
politics and loyalty align with ours. Mental issues and health concerns or not.

Thanks.

FIFY.

And It wasn’t 2018-2019. Was 2022-2023. I was off by 4 years, so it hasn’t been that long .

FIFY


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[kalm]

So his post stroke recovery was not the same as the allegations from his own staff and IIRC, even his wife, are now.

The democrats just care whether or not his politics align with theirs. Mental issues and health concerns or not.

Thanks.

FIFY.

And It wasn’t 2018-2019. Was 2022-2023. I was off by 4 years, so it hasn’t been that long .

I don’t disagree regarding the establishment Dems. They did it with Boxer and Biden too.

[BDKJMU]

[UNI88]

They already have - thats why Trump has never been measured in his socks. even for his mug shot. He's barely 5" 11" and way into morbidly obese territory already.

What was the first thing he said after the first staged "asassination attempt"? Even before he posed for his "fight fight fight" publicity pic?

Yep - "Where are my shoes?"

Not like he's the first guy to lie about his height - Joe Montana was only 5' 11".

Hey, so are you of the conspiracy belief that there was never an assassination attempt on Trump, that the shooting at the rally didn't happen or was staged? I've been hearing that from time to time from friends of mine who I would certainly describe as leaning to the left. Do you believe it was staged or fake? How do you explain the guy who died being struck by one of the fake bullets? An accident? I really thought the far right was the sole owner of whacky conspiracies but am interested in the speed in which the far left is trying to play catch-up in this regard.

I like to float that conspiracy to poke fun at the ludicrous conspiracy theories that MAQA yahoos have bought hook, line and sinker.

It's right up there with whackadoodle conspiracy theories like:
- the 2020 election was stolen from trump (and all of the related conspiracy theories)
- trump did nothing wrong and was the innocent victim of a witchhunt/lawfare

[houndawg]

LoL the left in summer-fall 2018 insisted Fetterman, who couldn’t cogently speak at the time, was fine to serve. Now a much more coherent Fetterman isn’t? HYPOCRITES.

I'll take your word for it since MAQA yahos are subject matter experts on how to be oblivious to their own hypocrisy.

you'll probably have to explain that to him with smaller words

[BDKJMU]

[UNI88]

James Carville and Democratic rep call out Ilhan Omar, say party needs to praise greatness of USA

During Thursday's episode of the Politics War Room podcast, Khanna said that "Democrats need to start every speech by saying, ‘America is the greatest country in the world.’"

Carville slammed the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, specifically Omar, for doing more harm than good for the party's cause.

He clarified, "I am a liberal Democrat," but added, "I don't like — let's just say — the progressive wing of the Democratic Party all right." "My argument is maybe these people are not worth the trouble. Maybe they should just go their own way."

[BDKJMU]

Typical MSM gaslighting from ‘How dare you criticize Biden’s cognitive state (which anyone with half a brain could clearly see)’:

Tapper now: Buy my book about how we were all lied to about Biden’s cognitive state (even though I was part of the coverup)..

[BDKJMU]

Congressman 7-11 forces impeachment vote. His fellow democrats not too happy. This is awesome!

Dems privately rage over "utterly selfish" Trump impeachment vote

House Democrats erupted into fury and profane invective Tuesday as Rep. Shri Thanedar (D-Mich.) forced a vote on his rogue efforts to impeach President Trump.

Why it matters: The vote could be tough for many Democrats, who feel impeachment is politically foolish but are facing demands from their grassroots to mirror Trump's shock-and-awe tactics.

*"It's going to cause Democrats in [competitive] seats to make tough decisions," said one House Democrat.

*Several lawmakers told Axios they believe Thanedar's impeachment efforts are clearly aimed at galvanizing support in his contested Democratic primary.

*A senior House Democrat, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to offer insights into the private reactions of their colleagues, told Axios: "People are pissed."

Driving the news: Thanedar took to the House floor Tuesday afternoon to notice his seven articles of impeachment as privileged, which forces the House to vote on them within two legislative days.

*In other words, the House has to act by Thursday. Republicans will likely introduce a motion to table — or kill — Thanedar's measure.

*The measure accuses Trump of a litany of offenses, including abuse of power, corruption and "tyranny," mostly related to his consolidation of power and his personal finances.

What we're hearing: "This is the dumbest f***ing thing. Utterly selfish behavior," said a third House Democrat, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly about a colleague.

*A fourth House Democrat said of Thanedar, simply: "What a dumbs***."

*A fifth called Thanedar's maneuver "irrelevant" because Republicans motion to table "will succeed," predicting some Democrats may vote for the GOP motion.

*The first House Democrat who spoke anonymously said it's "a waste of f***ing time."

Zoom in: Some Democrats also see Thanedar's push as a distraction from their party's efforts to message against Republicans' massive tax cut bill.

*"We need to focus on reconciliation," said Rep. Brad Schneider (D-Ill.), the chair of the New Democrat Coalition. "100% of our energy is on dealing with this."

Flashback: Thanedar first raised the ire of his colleagues last week by listing several colleagues as co-sponsors on his impeachment articles based on vague conversations without looping in their staffs.

*Sources also alleged Thanedar misleadingly intimated that his articles were drafted in coordination with and with support from Democratic leadership.

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/13/donald ... rats-react

[Bobcat]

Jake Tapper shouldn't be allowed on TV or any media he is a proven liar and if he really didn't see any decline in Biden then he's really fucking stupid too. People shouldn't listen to stupid people