trump/vance Immigration Enforcement Bloodbath

[Bobcat]

Murdering rapist comes into the USA illegally

Dad trying to provide for his family comes into the country illegally

Same fucking thing, both criminals get them out and let them come back legally. Biden fuel injected this problem, now we have to fix it by any means necessary

[BDKJMU]

The left cheers when a straight white guy is in trouble with ICE.

I'm not left and I'm not cheering his detention. I'm pointing out the lies being told by the trump regime about only going after the "worst of the worst" criminals when they're really trying to round up any potentially illegal immigrant they can grab, detain and try to deport. Sending people whose only crime might be coming to this country illegally or forgetting to submit a form to life imprisonment in a 3rd world prison.

Link?

[UNI88]

I'm not left and I'm not cheering his detention. I'm pointing out the lies being told by the trump regime about only going after the "worst of the worst" criminals when they're really trying to round up any potentially illegal immigrant they can grab, detain and try to deport. Sending people whose only crime might be coming to this country illegally or forgetting to submit a form to life imprisonment in a 3rd world prison.

Link?

The forgetting to submit a form link was in the post prior to that one. Plenty of other examples out there. I'm sure you'll dismiss them because of questionable statements, traffic tickets, spousal abuse accusations and tattoos (those last 2 apply to hegseth, when are they putting him on a plane?).

Do you have a link to proof that every single deportee sent to El Salvador was a violent criminal, the "worst of the worst"?

[BDKJMU]

Link?

The forgetting to submit a form link was in the post prior to that one. Plenty of other examples out there. I'm sure you'll dismiss them because of questionable statements, traffic tickets, spousal abuse accusations and tattoos (those last 2 apply to hegseth, when are they putting him on a plane?).

Do you have a link to proof that every single deportee sent to El Salvador was a violent criminal, the "worst of the worst"?

Was he deported to a 3rd world prison with a life sentence?

Show me one where as you claimed

Sending people whose only crime might be coming to this country illegally or forgetting to submit a form to life imprisonment in a 3rd world prison.

has been arrested and deported to a 3rd world prison for a life sentence.

[UNI88]

The forgetting to submit a form link was in the post prior to that one. Plenty of other examples out there. I'm sure you'll dismiss them because of questionable statements, traffic tickets, spousal abuse accusations and tattoos (those last 2 apply to hegseth, when are they putting him on a plane?).

Do you have a link to proof that every single deportee sent to El Salvador was a violent criminal, the "worst of the worst"?

Was he deported to a 3rd world prison with a life sentence?

Show me one where as you claimed

Sending people whose only crime might be coming to this country illegally or forgetting to submit a form to life imprisonment in a 3rd world prison.

has been arrested and deported to a 3rd world prison for a life sentence.

Andry Romero

[Bobcat]

Link?

The forgetting to submit a form link was in the post prior to that one. Plenty of other examples out there. I'm sure you'll dismiss them because of questionable statements, traffic tickets, spousal abuse accusations and tattoos (those last 2 apply to hegseth, when are they putting him on a plane?).

Do you have a link to proof that every single deportee sent to El Salvador was a violent criminal, the "worst of the worst"?

If they came across the border illegally they should be on the plane regardless of current or previous crime history. They are all the same

Lawbreakers

[UNI88]

Those "people" are being punished not because they did something illegal but because they said or did something that trump didn't like. trump is the President of the United States. He is using the DoJ to use lawfare to persecute them. There is more to persecution than just violence.

A visa is a privilege and they earned that privilege. Using flimsy reasoning to attempt to take away their visas is a violation of their right to free speech. While some who speak out in support of Palestinians in Gaza probably support hamas, It cannot be assumed that all of them do anymore than it can be assumed that a US political leader supports hamas because he accepts bribes, oops gifts and development contracts, from Qataris leaders who provide financial support for hamas. To argue one and dismiss the other is hypocritical. trump, lil' marco and ICE Barbie should not be rescinding their visas just because they participated in a protest or wrote and op-ed in support of Palestinians without proving their support for hamas. They are here legally and they have the right to due process.

You've failed to provide a logical reason why the South Africans were given special treatment that's been denied to refugees with darker skin. It's more than fair to question whether race was a factor.

WRONG.
-They have all been threatened with violence. Numerous examples- the biggest one would be black S African leaders leading a whole stadium in a chant about how they wanted to kill whitey.
-Many have had their homes/lands confiscated
-Many have been killed.
-More haven’t been killed because of farmers heavily arming themselves along with hiring a massive amount of private security.

Doesn't explain the special treatment. Venezuelans ...
-They have all been threatened with violence.
-Many have had their homes/lands confiscated
-Many have been killed.
-More haven’t been killed because they've fled or capitulated to save their lives.

[UNI88]

Why Trump Is So Obsessed With White South Africans

The blatant double standard underscores how this policy ties into Trump’s broader messaging, which has long focused on stoking white grievances and resentment. Specifically, Trump has framed the incoming Afrikaner refugees as white victims who have been mistreated by a majority-Black South African government – and population – that’s out to take what’s theirs. That echoes longstanding fears conservatives have propagated about the racist and conspiratorial “Great Replacement Theory” — the idea that there’s a calculated plan to displace white people with people of color.
...
Experts note that South Africa broadly has a high rate of violent crime, but that it affects both white and Black residents. White farmers’ murders account for fewer than 1% of annual killings nationwide, according to Politifact. And a BBC review notes that of 6,953 people murdered in South Africa between October and December 2024, 12 people were killed in farm attacks — and a majority were likely Black. Such analyses are complicated, though, by the fact that South Africa doesn’t consistently disclose data on the race of victims.

Claims of genocide, however, have been firmly disputed by officials and a South African Court, which called them “clearly imagined and not real” in February.
...
How are Afrikaners being treated differently from other immigrants?
Not only are Afrikaners being admitted to the U.S. as others are not, their applications are also being uniquely expedited. While processing refugee applications typically takes one to two years, Afrikaners who were recently admitted saw that theirs were approved in just a few months. And while other immigrants are being detained for their public support of Palestine due to the White House’s claims that such positions are antisemitic, an Afrikaner refugee who has a history of antisemitic posts was among those recently welcomed to the U.S.

[BDKJMU]

Why QUNI88 Is So Obsessed With White South Africans

The blatant double standard underscores how this policy ties into Trump’s broader messaging, which has long focused on stoking white grievances and resentment. Specifically, Trump has framed the incoming Afrikaner refugees as white victims who have been mistreated by a majority-Black South African government – and population – that’s out to take what’s theirs. That echoes longstanding fears conservatives have propagated about the racist and conspiratorial “Great Replacement Theory” — the idea that there’s a calculated plan to displace white people with people of color.
...
Experts note that South Africa broadly has a high rate of violent crime, but that it affects both white and Black residents. White farmers’ murders account for fewer than 1% of annual killings nationwide, according to Politifact. And a BBC review notes that of 6,953 people murdered in South Africa between October and December 2024, 12 people were killed in farm attacks — and a majority were likely Black. Such analyses are complicated, though, by the fact that South Africa doesn’t consistently disclose data on the race of victims.

Claims of genocide, however, have been firmly disputed by officials and a South African Court, which called them “clearly imagined and not real” in February.
...
How are Afrikaners being treated differently from other immigrants?
Not only are Afrikaners being admitted to the U.S. as others are not, their applications are also being uniquely expedited. While processing refugee applications typically takes one to two years, Afrikaners who were recently admitted saw that theirs were approved in just a few months. And while other immigrants are being detained for their public support of Palestine due to the White House’s claims that such positions are antisemitic, an Afrikaner refugee who has a history of antisemitic posts was among those recently welcomed to the U.S.

Lawl the Biden admin (Google AI so no link)

Migration Policy Institute (MPI) estimate: As of May 2024, the Migration Policy Institute estimates that the Biden administration has allowed approximately 5.7 million migrants who crossed the border irregularly or were lawfully paroled into the country to pursue their immigration cases in the U.S. interior. This number includes those admitted through programs like CBP One app and the CHNV program (for Cubans, Haitians,

So that was in his 1st 3 1/4 years that the Biden open border admin cut loose into the interior (which doesn’t include millions of got aways). How about the hundreds of thousands of people the Biden admin allowed in as refugees? They didn’t have to wait years. You don’t think they were expedited? You think they were properly vetted? Or vetted at all? (Clearly not with all the crimes we’ve seen committed by Biden ‘refugees’.

After Biden’s shitshow withdrawal from Afghanistan the US took in 200k Afghan refugees. You think they took 2 years to process?

Why would it take 2 years to process 50 Afrikaner applications? So they were processed in a few months. That sounds too long. That’s something that should be done in days/weeks.

But keep crying like an unhinged TDS little bitch about 50 Afrikaner refugees.

[UNI88]

Australian woman says she was deported after visiting her U.S. Army officer husband at Hawaii base

Saroukos was held for more screening, including fingerprints and a DNA swab, while her mother was allowed to go. She was then denied entry to the U.S. and told she would be deported back to Australia after spending the night in prison, she said.
...
According to Saroukos, border officials told her they would let her husband know she was being deported – but they never did.

She was then put through a body cavity search before being paraded through the airport in handcuffs and taken to the Federal Detection Center.

“They stated, ‘No, you’re not under arrest. You haven’t done anything wrong, and you’ll be facing no criminal charges.’ So I was very confused as to why this was all happening,” she said.

After arriving at the prison, Saroukos was strip-searched and detained with women who had been convicted of murder and drug offenses, according to the report.

She shared a cell with a woman from Fiji who was also denied entry and awaiting deportation. She was also not allowed to make a phone call to her husband or mother to let them know what happened.

Saroukos said that the following morning, she was brought back to the airport and received a call from the Australian Consulate General in Hawaii, who had been contacted by her mother when they were separated and helped get the two on the same returning flight home.

Eventually, she was able to connect with her husband over the phone.

“I think we were both just very emotional. We hadn’t spoken to each other in 24 hours. He didn’t know where I was or whether I was safe,” she said.

“It’s not only myself, it’s my mother and my husband that also had to endure that pain, my husband being a current serving member, to serve his country and to be treated in that way I find very disgusting,” she said.

Saroukos’ husband is now on leave with her in Sydney after waiting hours for her at the airport and receiving no answers.

[BDKJMU]

Australian woman says she was deported after visiting her U.S. Army officer husband at Hawaii base

Saroukos was held for more screening, including fingerprints and a DNA swab, while her mother was allowed to go. She was then denied entry to the U.S. and told she would be deported back to Australia after spending the night in prison, she said.
...
According to Saroukos, border officials told her they would let her husband know she was being deported – but they never did.

She was then put through a body cavity search before being paraded through the airport in handcuffs and taken to the Federal Detection Center.

“They stated, ‘No, you’re not under arrest. You haven’t done anything wrong, and you’ll be facing no criminal charges.’ So I was very confused as to why this was all happening,” she said.

After arriving at the prison, Saroukos was strip-searched and detained with women who had been convicted of murder and drug offenses, according to the report.

She shared a cell with a woman from Fiji who was also denied entry and awaiting deportation. She was also not allowed to make a phone call to her husband or mother to let them know what happened.

Saroukos said that the following morning, she was brought back to the airport and received a call from the Australian Consulate General in Hawaii, who had been contacted by her mother when they were separated and helped get the two on the same returning flight home.

Eventually, she was able to connect with her husband over the phone.

“I think we were both just very emotional. We hadn’t spoken to each other in 24 hours. He didn’t know where I was or whether I was safe,” she said.

“It’s not only myself, it’s my mother and my husband that also had to endure that pain, my husband being a current serving member, to serve his country and to be treated in that way I find very disgusting,” she said.

Saroukos’ husband is now on leave with her in Sydney after waiting hours for her at the airport and receiving no answers.

A lib British paper that gives one side of the story.
-What are their current visas of any?
-Did they have excessive luggage for 3 weeks?
-What were they carrying? Anything inadmissible, illegal, over the allowed amount, etc?
-What did either of them say to the Customs?
-Did they lie about anything?

[UNI88]

Australian woman says she was deported after visiting her U.S. Army officer husband at Hawaii base

A lib British paper that gives one side of the story.
-What are their current visas of any?
-Did they have excessive luggage for 3 weeks?
-What were they carrying? Anything inadmissible, illegal, over the allowed amount, etc?
-What did either of them say to the Customs?
-Did they lie about anything?

Fox: Military wife says she was detained, deported when trying to visit husband on vacation

I don't know, you tell me.

Why was she:
- fingerprinted and swabbed for DNA?
- subject to a body cavity search and a later strip search?
- paraded through the airport in handcuffs?
- not allowed to make a phone call?

Why didn't they notify her husband, a US service member?

Who decides how much luggage/clothing is excessive?

[BDKJMU]

A lib British paper that gives one side of the story.
-What are their current visas of any?
-Did they have excessive luggage for 3 weeks?
-What were they carrying? Anything inadmissible, illegal, over the allowed amount, etc?
-What did either of them say to the Customs?
-Did they lie about anything?

Fox: Military wife says she was detained, deported when trying to visit husband on vacation

I don't know, you tell me.

Why was she:
- fingerprinted and swabbed for DNA?
- subject to a body cavity search and a later strip search?
- paraded through the airport in handcuffs?
- not allowed to make a phone call?

Why didn't they notify her husband, a US service member?

Who decides how much luggage/clothing is excessive?

Still only getting one side of the story.

[UNI88]

Fox: Military wife says she was detained, deported when trying to visit husband on vacation

I don't know, you tell me.

Why was she:
- fingerprinted and swabbed for DNA?
- subject to a body cavity search and a later strip search?
- paraded through the airport in handcuffs?
- not allowed to make a phone call?

Why didn't they notify her husband, a US service member?

Who decides how much luggage/clothing is excessive?

Still only getting one side of the story.

This is your opportunity to present the other side. Give it your best shot champ.

[BDKJMU]

Still only getting one side of the story.

This is your opportunity to present the other side. Give it your best shot champ.

As soon as you provide the interview transcripts, video and all the info on the woman’s background, her visa status, what she was carrying, etc.

[UNI88]

Trump has ordered a critically ill four-year-old Mexican girl to leave the country. She could die within days, experts say

Deysi Vargas’s 4-year-old daughter, named only as Sofia in a GoFundMe page, urgently required better medical care for a life-threatening condition and was granted temporary humanitarian permission to enter the U.S. from her home country of Mexico in 2023, The Los Angeles Times reports.
...
Now the Trump administration has ordered Sofia’s deportation, leaving her at risk of death, an attorney representing the family said.

“This is a textbook example of medical need,” Rebecca Brown of the pro bono firm Public Counsel told the paper. “This child will die and there’s no sense for that to happen. It would just be a cruel sacrifice.”
...
The threat to Sofia’s life was confirmed by Dr. John Arsenault of the Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, where she receives regular treatment every six weeks.

Arsenault said in a letter seen by The Los Angeles Times that if there is an interruption to administering nutrition to her system, “it could be fatal within a matter of days.”

The doctor added that patients who receive the treatment, called Total Parenteral Nutrition, at home “are not allowed to leave the country.”

“The infrastructure to provide TPN or provide immediate intervention if there is a problem with IV access depends on our program’s utilization of U.S.-based healthcare resources and does not transfer across borders,” Arsenault explained in the letter.

Can Republicans really say that they're the party of life with a straight face?

[BDKJMU]

Trump has ordered a critically ill four-year-old Mexican girl to leave the country. She could die within days, experts say

Deysi Vargas’s 4-year-old daughter, named only as Sofia in a GoFundMe page, urgently required better medical care for a life-threatening condition and was granted temporary humanitarian permission to enter the U.S. from her home country of Mexico in 2023, The Los Angeles Times reports.
...
Now the Trump administration has ordered Sofia’s deportation, leaving her at risk of death, an attorney representing the family said.

“This is a textbook example of medical need,” Rebecca Brown of the pro bono firm Public Counsel told the paper. “This child will die and there’s no sense for that to happen. It would just be a cruel sacrifice.”
...
The threat to Sofia’s life was confirmed by Dr. John Arsenault of the Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, where she receives regular treatment every six weeks.

Arsenault said in a letter seen by The Los Angeles Times that if there is an interruption to administering nutrition to her system, “it could be fatal within a matter of days.”

The doctor added that patients who receive the treatment, called Total Parenteral Nutrition, at home “are not allowed to leave the country.”

“The infrastructure to provide TPN or provide immediate intervention if there is a problem with IV access depends on our program’s utilization of U.S.-based healthcare resources and does not transfer across borders,” Arsenault explained in the letter.

Can Republicans really say that they're the party of life with a straight face?

Lawl I knew it before I clicked on it that it was going to be from the Independent..

[UNI88]

Trump has ordered a critically ill four-year-old Mexican girl to leave the country. She could die within days, experts say

Can Republicans really say that they're the party of life with a straight face?

Lawl I knew it before I clicked on it that it was going to be from the Independent..

Then show us it's fake news then rather than using a logical fallacy to try and dismiss it.

The Independent is just as trustworthy as:
- tucker carlson
- jesse watters
- rapid response 47
- elon musk or any of his multiple personalities
- oan

Completely unreliable and should only be posted on the Political memes, Posters, Funny Pics, Etc. Thread:
- libs of tiktok
- cat turd
- patriotpost.us

Unimportant, unreliable, irrelevant, nobody influencer wannabe nobody influencer with ZERO influence who should never be quoted:
- End Wokeness

[Baldy]

WRONG.
-They have all been threatened with violence. Numerous examples- the biggest one would be black S African leaders leading a whole stadium in a chant about how they wanted to kill whitey.
-Many have had their homes/lands confiscated
-Many have been killed.
-More haven’t been killed because of farmers heavily arming themselves along with hiring a massive amount of private security.

Doesn't explain the special treatment. Venezuelans ...
-They have all been threatened with violence.
-Many have had their homes/lands confiscated
-Many have been killed.
-More haven’t been killed because they've fled or capitulated to save their lives.

The South Africans properly and legally applied for asylum and went through the vetting process.

Did the Venezuelans?
No...

[bobbythekidd]

Doesn't explain the special treatment. Venezuelans ...
-They have all been threatened with violence.
-Many have had their homes/lands confiscated
-Many have been killed.
-More haven’t been killed because they've fled or capitulated to save their lives.

The South Africans properly and legally applied for asylum and went through the vetting process.

Did the Venezuelans?
No...

You are correct, Badly. But that's a trump 45 policy to let them in while circumventing the normal procedures.

The problem with this whole thread is you have to disprove the misinformation, before you can actually have the actual conversation. And I blame this all on Trump.

[UNI88]

Doesn't explain the special treatment. Venezuelans ...
-They have all been threatened with violence.
-Many have had their homes/lands confiscated
-Many have been killed.
-More haven’t been killed because they've fled or capitulated to save their lives.

The South Africans properly and legally applied for asylum and went through the vetting process.

Did the Venezuelans?
No...

The vetting process that was "expedited" because they were in some sort of immediate danger of being genocided? That's

The danger faced by the South Africans was less than that faced by the Venezuelans. This wouldn't be a big deal if we had either 1) not moved to kick out the Venezuelans or 2) not accepted the South Africans. Doing both is hypocritical.

[Baldy]

The South Africans properly and legally applied for asylum and went through the vetting process.

Did the Venezuelans?
No...

The vetting process that was "expedited" because they were in some sort of immediate danger of being genocided? That's

The danger faced by the South Africans was less than that faced by the Venezuelans. This wouldn't be a big deal if we had either 1) not moved to kick out the Venezuelans or 2) not accepted the South Africans. Doing both is hypocritical.

You just lost this argument a few days ago.

This time, I'll let the folks at Genocide Watch set you straight.

South Africa still is a product of British colonial and apartheid policies instituted by the white supremacist government. Police brutality is rampant, with almost 400 deaths, 124 cases of rape, and 270 cases of torture in 2019 alone. Xenophobic attacks on African immigrants, as well as murders of white farmers, continue with impunity.

AND

The same impunity results from non-prosecution of murders of white farmers. The Marxist, racist
Economic Freedom Front party of Julius Malema encourages these murders, which are meant to terrorize
farmers into emigrating from South Africa. Many of the murders are hate crimes. The perpetrators torture,
rape, and disembowel their victims. They leave Afrikaans Bibles on dead bodies. White farmers are
defenseless because South Africa outlawed private gun possession and disbanded the mutual protection
cooperatives organized by farmers in the past.

And, before you try to counter with "statistics" from the South African Police Service...

The South African Police Service (SAPS) and Metro Police contribute to xenophobic violence through
counterfeit goods raids of foreigners’ homes, which too often become excuses to commit beatings and
destruction. SAPS also conducts “documentation raids”, where police and the Department of Home
Affairs enter peoples’ homes to "verify" their legal status. Even after providing proper documentation,
foreigners are often detained, beaten, and denied access to lawyers. Police brutality is rampant, with
almost 400 deaths, 124 cases of rape, and 270 cases of torture attributed to police action in 2019 alone.

https://www.genocidewatch.com/country-p ... uth-africa

[Baldy]

The South Africans properly and legally applied for asylum and went through the vetting process.

Did the Venezuelans?
No...

You are correct, Badly. But that's a trump 45 policy to let them in while circumventing the normal procedures.

The problem with this whole thread is you have to disprove the misinformation, before you can actually have the actual conversation. And I blame this all on Trump.

Trump's policy was Remain in Mexico.

[bobbythekidd]

You are correct, Badly. But that's a trump 45 policy to let them in while circumventing the normal procedures.

The problem with this whole thread is you have to disprove the misinformation, before you can actually have the actual conversation. And I blame this all on Trump.

Trump's policy was Remain in Mexico.

Trump Approves Deportation Protections for Venezuelans in U.S. Illegally
The action comes under the Deferred Enforced Departure program that offers deportation protections and work permits to immigrants in the country without authorization.

The history of the world doesn't agree with your assertion. If you have something that contradicts facts, I would happily consider it.

Can you find any documentation that Venezuelans should remain in Mexico? Why should they even be there?

[UNI88]

The vetting process that was "expedited" because they were in some sort of immediate danger of being genocided? That's

The danger faced by the South Africans was less than that faced by the Venezuelans. This wouldn't be a big deal if we had either 1) not moved to kick out the Venezuelans or 2) not accepted the South Africans. Doing both is hypocritical.

You just lost this argument a few days ago.

This time, I'll let the folks at Genocide Watch set you straight.

South Africa still is a product of British colonial and apartheid policies instituted by the white supremacist government. Police brutality is rampant, with almost 400 deaths, 124 cases of rape, and 270 cases of torture in 2019 alone. Xenophobic attacks on African immigrants, as well as murders of white farmers, continue with impunity.

AND

The same impunity results from non-prosecution of murders of white farmers. The Marxist, racist
Economic Freedom Front party of Julius Malema encourages these murders, which are meant to terrorize
farmers into emigrating from South Africa. Many of the murders are hate crimes. The perpetrators torture,
rape, and disembowel their victims. They leave Afrikaans Bibles on dead bodies. White farmers are
defenseless because South Africa outlawed private gun possession and disbanded the mutual protection
cooperatives organized by farmers in the past.

And, before you try to counter with "statistics" from the South African Police Service...

The South African Police Service (SAPS) and Metro Police contribute to xenophobic violence through
counterfeit goods raids of foreigners’ homes, which too often become excuses to commit beatings and
destruction. SAPS also conducts “documentation raids”, where police and the Department of Home
Affairs enter peoples’ homes to "verify" their legal status. Even after providing proper documentation,
foreigners are often detained, beaten, and denied access to lawyers. Police brutality is rampant, with
almost 400 deaths, 124 cases of rape, and 270 cases of torture attributed to police action in 2019 alone.

https://www.genocidewatch.com/country-p ... uth-africa

Dr. Gregory Stanton, the Founding President & Chairman of Genocide Watch, agrees with me.

“One of the false uses of Genocide Watch's model for genocide prediction is the claim by some South Africans, racists in the United States, and a few South African expatriates, that South Africa is undergoing a ‘white genocide’,” Stanton told Africa Check. “Genocide Watch has never said ’white genocide’ is underway in South Africa.”

Genocide Watch thin on transparency and methodology

Do you want to compare crime rates in South Africa vs. Venezuela?