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Chizzang wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:34 pm
CID1990 wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:04 pm
In December, China concealed the virus, denied human to human transmission, sequestered healthcare officials who were trying to get the word out, and continue to arrest and disappear people who criticize the government response. China lost precious time that could have been used to lock down the virus and instead used that time to cover up what was happening.

A couple of the above ^^^^ could easily have happened in other countries due to poor organization or leadership. But in China they happened precisely because China was just being China.

And now they are propagating on Weibo that the US brought the virus to China.
Greed...
unbridled Greed has created a world where China matters
We've made China relevant

as Pwns might say "we get the China we deserve.."
I don't know if wanting a cheaper flat screen TV is really GREEDY. I mean, a consumer goes out and sees one 50 inch flatscreen for $200 and another one that's about the same quality for $400 I don't know if it's GREEDY to choose the cheaper one.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:18 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:36 pm
Alright JSO, what's the cliff notes version?
Break the chains of transmission to the extent possible so that we do not overwhelm our health care system.
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93henfan wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:32 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:18 pm

Break the chains of transmission to the extent possible so that we do not overwhelm our health care system.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:43 pm
93henfan wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:32 pm

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93henfan wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:32 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:18 pm
Break the chains of transmission to the extent possible so that we do not overwhelm our health care system.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:11 pm
Ibanez wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:57 pm
Oh really??


Jan 22:

Reporter: "Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?"
Trump: "No. Not at all."

Feb 26:

Trump: "We're going down, not up. We're going substantially down."

March 7:

Trump: "I'm not concerned at all"

Today:

Trump: "I've always known this is a real...pandemic"

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The question was when did 5 days ago arrive at the WH. My reply was 6 days ago, which would be March 11. You're referring to stuff 2 months ago, last month, and 10 days ago, not relevant to the question at hand. Try to keep up.
They've been taking a step back for every step forward the entire time so I'm not sure if 5 days ago has arrived at the WH yet.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:30 pm
Chizzang wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:34 pm

Greed...
unbridled Greed has created a world where China matters
We've made China relevant

as Pwns might say "we get the China we deserve.."
I don't know if wanting a cheaper flat screen TV is really GREEDY. I mean, a consumer goes out and sees one 50 inch flatscreen for $200 and another one that's about the same quality for $400 I don't know if it's GREEDY to choose the cheaper one.
That's a NET RESULT John...
I'm talking about making decisions to move entire corporations overseas to China
knowing full well they'll rob you blind... but STOCK value is king

we consciously decided to surrender our manufacturing power to them
and we are living with those decisions now

:nod:

WE MADE China... without our transition from here-to-there they'de be a larger North Korea
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Chizzang wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:41 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:30 pm

I don't know if wanting a cheaper flat screen TV is really GREEDY. I mean, a consumer goes out and sees one 50 inch flatscreen for $200 and another one that's about the same quality for $400 I don't know if it's GREEDY to choose the cheaper one.
That's a NET RESULT John...
I'm talking about making decisions to move entire corporations overseas to China
knowing full well they'll rob you blind... but STOCK value is king

we consciously decided to surrender our manufacturing power to them
and we are living with those decisions now

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WE MADE China... without our transition from here-to-there they'de be a larger North Korea
Manufacturing chickens coming home to roost.
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kalm wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:49 pm
Chizzang wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:41 pm

That's a NET RESULT John...
I'm talking about making decisions to move entire corporations overseas to China
knowing full well they'll rob you blind... but STOCK value is king

we consciously decided to surrender our manufacturing power to them
and we are living with those decisions now

:nod:

WE MADE China... without our transition from here-to-there they'de be a larger North Korea
Manufacturing chickens coming home to roost.
Thank you, President Trump. :nod:
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:53 pm 1st we heard in the last 4-5 days 500, then 250, 100..CDC today said gatherings of 50 people or more should be canceled or postponed throughout the country for the next eight weeks.
And on Monday it was 10 people.. Maybe today 5?
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I woke up this morning to no water for my house. I guess we are in the apocalypse now.
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It’s a summary of the Imperial College London report plus a link to the entire study that changed the minds of Trump and England’s Boris Johnson and why we’re seeing more extreme measures being taken now.

The report uses predictive computer modeling for likely scenarios with mitigation or suppression tactics.

We will be in this, hopefully with a few occasional breaks until a vaccine is produced which will be approximately 18 months.

No need to panic. Just psychologically be smart and prepared.

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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:57 pm Oh really??


Jan 22:

Reporter: "Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?"
Trump: "No. Not at all."

Feb 26:

Trump: "We're going down, not up. We're going substantially down."

March 7:

Trump: "I'm not concerned at all"

Today:

Trump: "I've always known this is a real...pandemic"


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The question was when did 5 days ago arrive at the WH. My reply was 6 days ago, which would be March 11. You're referring to stuff 2 months ago, last month, and 10 days ago, not relevant to the question at hand. Try to keep up.
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Folks, Alex Jones has some silver lines toothpaste that’ll kill the virus. We’re saved!!!!



What a fucking charlatan.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... op+News%29

Coronavirus can persist in air for hours and on surfaces for days: study

Finally getting some answers on viability time. But I still have not seen anything related to temperature.
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Over 1800 new case in the US yesterday, may pass S Korea today, as may France. Of the closed cases, the death rate is 9%, with 91% recovered.
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:04 pm In December, China concealed the virus, denied human to human transmission, sequestered healthcare officials who were trying to get the word out, and continue to arrest and disappear people who criticize the government response. China lost precious time that could have been used to lock down the virus and instead used that time to cover up what was happening.

A couple of the above ^^^^ could easily have happened in other countries due to poor organization or leadership. But in China they happened precisely because China was just being China.

And now they are propagating on Weibo that the US brought the virus to China.
Greed...
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We've made China relevant

as Pwns might say "we get the China we deserve.."
Damn... I penned a lengthy reply to you this morning and then I had to go in and tell people that we are shutting down and hopefully they all get paid....

But yeah- you’re right

We totally created China, starting with Richard Nixon, and out foreign policy has been fucked ever since.

The whole idea, in a nutshell, for the last 60 years, has been that if we allow China into our markets, that their middle classes will rise up eventually and demand libertarian reforms. That they would become more like us..

I probably would have agreed with these policies at the time, since I am data driven, and in the 1960s there wasn’t a lot of data to go on.


But the lesson here is that if you feed capital into the maw of a command economy, it’s captains will profit from it through increased coercive power.

We all argue about what system is best... but it is becoming obvious to me that no system is best - as a collective we all default towards one flavor of authoritarianism or another

Which to me is an even greater argument towards decentralization and libertarianism... I would rather be one million small tents than 2 huge ones
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kalm wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:49 pm
Chizzang wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:41 pm

That's a NET RESULT John...
I'm talking about making decisions to move entire corporations overseas to China
knowing full well they'll rob you blind... but STOCK value is king

we consciously decided to surrender our manufacturing power to them
and we are living with those decisions now

:nod:

WE MADE China... without our transition from here-to-there they'de be a larger North Korea
Manufacturing chickens coming home to roost.
Globalism.
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North Dakota will have plenty of unusable land and unemployed workers to man state-of-the-art chicken houses and processing facilities. :thumb:

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Baldy wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:17 am
kalm wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:49 pm

Manufacturing chickens coming home to roost.
Globalism.
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mainejeff wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:21 am North Dakota will have plenty of unusable land and unemployed workers to man state-of-the-art chicken houses and processing facilities. :thumb:

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MInnesota has a lot of processing plants, don't really know of many in ND. Mostly grain, sugar and cattle country.
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