2024 Primary

[BDKJMU]

From what?

Implosion or a rift. Murkowski, Rupert Murdoch, establishment Republicans are worried. That’s why DeSantis got so much funding early on. Hope for anyone but Trump.

MAGA branding is not a sustainable winner.

Let the ‘establishment’ worry. They are what is wrong with the conk party..

[UNI88]

trump should have been convicted after January 6.

trump and the MAGAt yahoos have left the Republican Party. Their priority is forcing their social opinions on others not jobs and opportunity.

Ranked choice voting took the power away from the extremists and gave it back to the majority. That's a positive.

Convicted of what?

No, they are responding to the left trying to force a change by forcing their social opinions on everyone. The right is just responding.

To the contrary, ranked choice consolidated power in the big $$ establishment (ex Murkowski). The only good news about the donks winning the Senate and House seat in Alaska is the rest of the red states have now seen what a disaster it was, and won’t be implementing it in the future. Course none of the blue states will be dumb enough to inplement it either, so we certainly won’t see it implemented in the future in any non purple states..

Impeachment for inciting an insurrection. What did you think Murkowski voted to convict him for?

BS. Both sides are trying to shove their moral imperatives down everyone else's throat.

Part of our problem is the influence that the extremes have in the nomination process. We end up with too many nut job candidates like Kari Lake that the majority have to hold their nose when voting. The primary process like gerrymandering is contributing to extremists having an outsized say in government.

[kalm]

Implosion or a rift. Murkowski, Rupert Murdoch, establishment Republicans are worried. That’s why DeSantis got so much funding early on. Hope for anyone but Trump.

MAGA branding is not a sustainable winner.

Let the ‘establishment’ worry. They are what is wrong with the conk party..

The MAGA track record has not been good since 2016. I don’t see it getting better unless MAGA drastically alters it rhetoric and actions.

[UNI88]

Let the ‘establishment’ worry. They are what is wrong with the conk party..

The MAGA track record has not been good since 2016. I don’t see it getting better unless MAGA drastically alters it rhetoric and actions.

It wasn't the MAGAt yahoos fault! Those elections were all stolen! Or the establishment didn't provide the funding that they should have! Whatever the excuses, it wasn't their fault!

[UNI88]

2024 election: Republican state parties in disarray ahead of crucial contests

Arizona could very well be the decisive state in next year’s presidential election. Sadly for the GOP, the state’s Republican Party appears to be in disarray.

And it’s not just the presidential race that Republicans have to worry about. Arizona represents one of the GOP’s best Senate pickup opportunities, with Democrat turned independent Sen. Kyrsten Sinema facing a challenge from progressive Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego.

Yet the Arizona GOP, which is now seen as one of the most right-wing state parties in the nation, might not be up to winning either the Senate or the presidential contest. And it’s not just Arizona: A number of GOP state affiliates look increasingly troubled as 2024 looms.

[houndawg]

88 beat me to it. And we agree on something.

Yep. Biden’s drooling dementia is almost as unpresidential as trump’s temper tantrums.


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motherfucker will be wearing a tan suit before you know it

[UNI88]

DeSantis’ campaign is hemorrhaging support with this type of GOP voter, polls show

Republican voters with a college degree and a built-in skepticism of Donald Trump were supposed to form the backbone of Ron DeSantis’ strategy to win the 2024 GOP presidential primary.

Instead, they’re leaving his campaign in droves.

Goodman desantis' campaign is slip sliding away.

[houndawg]

DeSantis’ campaign is hemorrhaging support with this type of GOP voter, polls show

Republican voters with a college degree and a built-in skepticism of Donald Trump were supposed to form the backbone of Ron DeSantis’ strategy to win the 2024 GOP presidential primary.

Instead, they’re leaving his campaign in droves.

Goodman desantis' campaign is slip sliding away.

The trumptrain don't need no sissy-boy college wank pointy-heads

[BDKJMU]

[BDKJMU]

[houndawg]

They're all more dangerous than Trump in the general election - Trump is the only one in the field that Biden can beat.

And you're going to nominate him

[UNI88]

GOP donor who switched support from DeSantis to Tim Scott says prospective donors are 'disenchanted with Trump and DeSantis'

In the minds of some Republican voters, presidential candidate Tim Scott in recent weeks has become an increasingly attractive alternative to the current frontrunners, former President Donald Trump and Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida.

Scott, who's represented South Carolina in the US Senate since 2013, jumped into the 2024 presidential race in May and remains largely unknown to a substantial swath of Republican primary voters across the country.

But Scott's current position has a clear upside, as potential supporters and prospective GOP donors are giving his campaign a closer look after stumbles by both Trump and DeSantis.

[GannonFan]

GOP donor who switched support from DeSantis to Tim Scott says prospective donors are 'disenchanted with Trump and DeSantis'

In the minds of some Republican voters, presidential candidate Tim Scott in recent weeks has become an increasingly attractive alternative to the current frontrunners, former President Donald Trump and Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida.

Scott, who's represented South Carolina in the US Senate since 2013, jumped into the 2024 presidential race in May and remains largely unknown to a substantial swath of Republican primary voters across the country.

But Scott's current position has a clear upside, as potential supporters and prospective GOP donors are giving his campaign a closer look after stumbles by both Trump and DeSantis.

That would be an interesting development if it happens. Trump is clearly damaged (and deranged) goods, and DeSantis looks like he's cut from the same cloth. If the Dems are committed to running Biden (and I don't know who they'd even have to run if not him) then you just need a sane candidate to have a good shot to beat him, and Trump and DeSantis aren't looking like it. No one other than hard-core party zealots like Biden, and his age issues make that even worse. A sane person under the age of 70 is almost a guaranteed win for the GOP.

[kalm]

Scrolled down their feed for a second. Looks like the Dems might as well surrender now.

[kalm]

GOP donor who switched support from DeSantis to Tim Scott says prospective donors are 'disenchanted with Trump and DeSantis'

That would be an interesting development if it happens. Trump is clearly damaged (and deranged) goods, and DeSantis looks like he's cut from the same cloth. If the Dems are committed to running Biden (and I don't know who they'd even have to run if not him) then you just need a sane candidate to have a good shot to beat him, and Trump and DeSantis aren't looking like it. No one other than hard-core party zealots like Biden, and his age issues make that even worse. A sane person under the age of 70 is almost a guaranteed win for the GOP.

Yep. Still have to think there’s a Kasich type waiting in the wings. What will be interesting is how they appeal to MAGA without Trump’s endorsement.

[UNI88]

That would be an interesting development if it happens. Trump is clearly damaged (and deranged) goods, and DeSantis looks like he's cut from the same cloth. If the Dems are committed to running Biden (and I don't know who they'd even have to run if not him) then you just need a sane candidate to have a good shot to beat him, and Trump and DeSantis aren't looking like it. No one other than hard-core party zealots like Biden, and his age issues make that even worse. A sane person under the age of 70 is almost a guaranteed win for the GOP.

Yep. Still have to think there’s a Kasich type waiting in the wings. What will be interesting is how they appeal to MAGA without Trump’s endorsement.

Kasich is too moderate for the MAGAt yahoo wing and could lose to Biden without them. Scott can better appeal to them and to moderates/independents because he appears to be able to act like an adult unlike trump and Goodman desantis.

[GannonFan]

Yep. Still have to think there’s a Kasich type waiting in the wings. What will be interesting is how they appeal to MAGA without Trump’s endorsement.

Kasich is too moderate for the MAGAt yahoo wing and could lose to Biden without them. Scott can better appeal to them and to moderates/independents because he appears to be able to act like an adult unlike trump and Goodman desantis.

Agreed - Kasich came off as wishy-washy - it was hard to tell what he was for and what he was against. You don't need to be a firebrand, but at least have some idea of what you're running for and what you plan to do when you get there. I don't know if Scott is that guy, but we'll certainly get some opportunities to see him and see if he's that guy.

[houndawg]

GOP donor who switched support from DeSantis to Tim Scott says prospective donors are 'disenchanted with Trump and DeSantis'

That would be an interesting development if it happens. Trump is clearly damaged (and deranged) goods, and DeSantis looks like he's cut from the same cloth. If the Dems are committed to running Biden (and I don't know who they'd even have to run if not him) then you just need a sane candidate to have a good shot to beat him, and Trump and DeSantis aren't looking like it. No one other than hard-core party zealots like Biden, and his age issues make that even worse. A sane person under the age of 70 is almost a guaranteed win for the GOP.

Anybody in the conk field can beat Biden on the age thing alone, except Trump.

Chris Christie seems to have taken command of the one set of testicles the conks have managed to cobble together from their membership all pitching in - he is the only conk who seems to get that running an "I'm Trump too!" campaign is a guaranteed loser against the real thing - and if the base is also Trump's ceiling he may surprise us all

[BDKJMU]

Failed so far to qualify for the 1st conk primary debate:
-Pence
-Hutchinson
-Hurd
-Suarez
-Elder

Qualified for the 1st conk primary debate:
-Trump
-Desantis
-Ramaswamy
-Scott
-Haley
-Christie
-Burgum
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/2 ... e-00107967

[UNI88]

DeSantis Indicates He May Appoint RFK Jr. To Lead The FDA Or CDC If Elected

Let's considering appointing a nutcase to head the Food & Drug Administration or the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention who believes:

• “Vaccines cause autism because they have mercury preservatives and they are worse than the diseases that they say they are going to save you from. We haven’t used mercury since 2001 in children’s vaccines. It was never used in the three most common vaccines for children. And no scientific evidence supports this theory.”
• AIDS isn’t caused by HIV
• Wi-Fi creates “leaky brains,”
• chemicals in water are making kids transgender,
• the United States is genetically targeting the Russian and Chinese with bioweapons,
• antidepressants cause school shootings
• the “2004 election was stolen as computers switched nearly a quarter million votes in Ohio from John Kerry to George Bush”
• “5G is a mass surveillance tool and the telephone companies are in on it.
• CIA killed his uncle.
• Sirhan Sirhan didn’t kill his father.
• it’s all Ukraine’s fault Russia invaded them and is killing its people.
• COVID-19 is a genetically engineered bioweapon that is “ethnically targeted” to spare Jewish people.

desantis is in over his head.

[kalm]

Failed so far to qualify for the 1st conk primary debate:
-Pence
-Hutchinson
-Hurd
-Suarez
-Elder

Qualified for the 1st conk primary debate:
-Trump
-Desantis
-Ramaswamy
-Scott
-Haley
-Christie
-Burgum
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/2 ... e-00107967

Trump isn’t going to participate, right? At least I remember him saying something of the sort.

[BDKJMU]

Failed so far to qualify for the 1st conk primary debate:
-Pence
-Hutchinson
-Hurd
-Suarez
-Elder

Qualified for the 1st conk primary debate:
-Trump
-Desantis
-Ramaswamy
-Scott
-Haley
-Christie
-Burgum
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/2 ... e-00107967

Trump isn’t going to participate, right? At least I remember him saying something of the sort.

Remains to be seen.

[UNI88]

GOP Gov. Chris Sununu Surprises CNN Host With Bold Prediction About 2024 Candidates

New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu (R) on Thursday predicted the 2024 election won’t be contested by either President Joe Biden or former President Donald Trump.
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Trump is “very, very beatable” in the GOP primary and there is a “huge opportunity” for one of his rivals to break through, explained Sununu.
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On Biden, Sununu predicted the president will go “through the primary process” and “collect all the delegates” before “a wild convention where he and his people start steering the delegates somewhere else.”

[UNI88]

Trump, DeSantis and other 2024 GOP candidates set to address Iowa Republicans at Lincoln Day Dinner

Donald Trump and rival Ron DeSantis will appear for the first time at the same campaign event in early voting Iowa on Friday at a pivotal moment for the Republican presidential candidates.
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Trump has typically avoided attending events that put him in the lineup with the rest of the crowded field and has questioned why he should share the stage with his trailing rivals.

But with Iowa’s first-in-the-nation caucuses less than six months away, Trump and a dozen other GOP hopefuls are taking advantage of the chance to speak to about 1,200 GOP members and activists at Friday’s Lincoln Day Dinner.

If I remember how the Lincoln Day Dinner works, it isn't a debate, candidates address the audience separately. My guess is that trump agreed to attend if he got to speak when he wanted (first or last).

[UNI88]

Ron 'Dukakis'? How DeSantis's campaign looks like a meltdown from the past

As Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s presidential campaign flounders, some are comparing him with Jeb! Bush, who began the 2016 Republican primaries as a presumed front-runner, but flopped at the feet of dynasty-slayer Donald Trump.

There may be a more fitting parallel for DeSantis, however: Michael Dukakis, who captured the Democratic 1988 presidential nomination while serving as governor of Massachusetts. Dukakis ran heavily on the “Massachusetts miracle,” a tech-driven boom in the state’s economy during the 1980s that left it outperforming virtually every other state. As a presidential candidate, Dukakis promised that he’d do for America what he did for his home state and sow prosperity nationwide.

DeSantis also thinks his home state should be a model for the rest of the nation. He wants to “make America Florida” and export the policies he’s implemented as governor to the rest of the U.S. Those include a low-tax business environment, pushback against “woke” liberal culture, and pandemic policies that favor openness and personal choice over shutdowns and health mandates.

As Dukakis learned, however, many voters don’t want somebody from another part of the country to convert them to the true and proper way. Americans want leaders to solve their problems, not change their culture.