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BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:56 am

Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:25 am Should anyone have to pay a civil fine before all appeal avenues are over? Should anyone convicted of a crime have to serve any jail time before all avenues of appeals are over? Or this just doesn't apply to Trump?

Trying to compare a years long prison sentence to a civil fine isn’t even apples to oranges. Someone can’t fully serve a 10 or 20 year sentence in 1 or 2 year appeals process. Just like a fraction of a prison sentence (if not granted bail) would be served during the appeals process) a certain fraction of a civil fine should have to apply during the appeals process, not the entire fine. And that is what we have with the 175 million. That’s still very high (almost 40%) of the 454 million fine.

houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:52 am

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:56 am
Trying to compare a years long prison sentence to a civil fine isn’t even apples to oranges. Someone can’t fully serve a 10 or 20 year sentence in 1 or 2 year appeals process. Just like a fraction of a prison sentence (if not granted bail) would be served during the appeals process) a certain fraction of a civil fine should have to apply during the appeals process, not the entire fine. And that is what we have with the 175 million. That’s still very high (almost 40%) of the 454 million fine.

doesn't matter. He still owes the half billion after he loses his appeal

Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:51 pm The interest is over $100k a day and will still be accruing.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:25 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:51 pm The interest is over $100k a day and will still be accruing.

If the verdict is dratically lowered then so to is all the interest accumulated.

kalm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:25 am This is why Texas can’t have nice things.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:38 am

kalm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:25 am This is why Texas can’t have nice things.

Devine speaks the truth..

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:38 am

kalm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:25 am This is why Texas can’t have nice things.

Devine speaks the truth..

UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:52 am

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:38 am
Devine speaks the truth..

To paraphrase ... Do you really think the trump and the MAQA yahoos are gonna roll over and let biden be president again? You think they’re just gonna go away, all of a sudden, really find Jesus and be an honest election?

Known attempts to steal the 2020 election / commit voter fraud:
- Arranging for slates of fraudulent electors
- trump's calls attempting to bully state officials into not certifying results or to "find" votes
- January 6 riot to prevent Constitutional transfer of power
- Republican official who claimed 2020 election was stolen voted illegally nine time
- Kim Taylor was sentenced to four months in prison
- Scottsdale woman avoids jail for voting dead mom's ballot
- Another Republican convicted of voter fraud at Florida GOP stronghold
- N. Carolina AG to weigh charges in Meadows voter fraud case

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:28 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:52 am

To paraphrase ... Do you really think the trump and the MAQA yahoos are gonna roll over and let biden be president again? You think they’re just gonna go away, all of a sudden, really find Jesus and be an honest election?

Known attempts to steal the 2020 election / commit voter fraud:
- Arranging for slates of fraudulent electors
- trump's calls attempting to bully state officials into not certifying results or to "find" votes
- January 6 riot to prevent Constitutional transfer of power
- Republican official who claimed 2020 election was stolen voted illegally nine time
- Kim Taylor was sentenced to four months in prison
- Scottsdale woman avoids jail for voting dead mom's ballot
- Another Republican convicted of voter fraud at Florida GOP stronghold
- N. Carolina AG to weigh charges in Meadows voter fraud case

No worse than the democrats (including elements within the intel communties amd DOJ) attempting a soft coup in 2016 to overturn the election with their fake Trump Russia collusion hoax.

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:03 pm How come the only crimes you guys talk about are Trumps ?

bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:11 pm

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:03 pm How come the only crimes you guys talk about are Trumps ?

Well, at least you openly admit that the former guy has committed several crimes. That's the first step towards healing. Hopefully you will make it out of the cult completely.

Best of luck with your therapy.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:47 am

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:51 am

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrum ... 8210646761

UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:52 am

BDKJMU wrote:

UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:52 am

Yeah, that was Hillary..

That dynamic already appears to be at work as people are obeying in advance. On April 10, Pulitzer Prize–winning photographer David Hume Kennerly resigned from the board of the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Foundation after his fellow trustees declined to present the Gerald R. Ford Medal for Distinguished Public Service to former Wyoming representative Liz Cheney out of concern that a future President Trump would retaliate against the organization by taking away its tax-exempt status.

“The historical irony was completely lost on you,” Kennerly wrote. “Gerald Ford became president, in part, because Richard Nixon had ordered the development of an enemies list and demanded his underlings use the IRS against those listed. That’s exactly what the executive committee fears will happen if there’s a second coming of Donald Trump.”

Harking back to Ford’s service in the World War II Navy, Kennerly wrote: “Did [Lieutenant] Gerald Ford meet the enemy head-on because he thought he wouldn’t get killed? No. He did it despite that possibility. This executive committee, on the other hand, bolted before any shots were fired. You aren’t alone. Many foundations, organizations, corporations, and other entities are caught up in this tidal wave of timidity and fear that’s sweeping this country. I mistakenly thought we were better than that. This is the kind of acquiescent behavior that leads to authoritarianism. President Ford most likely would have come out even tougher and said that it leads directly to fascism.”

As Princeton sociology professor Kim Lane Scheppele told Edsall, those still operating under the impression that they will curry favor with a dictator are painfully unaware of how dictators actually operate: like Russia’s Vladimir Putin or Hungary’s Viktor Orbán, if he is returned to power, Trump will use the power of the state to squeeze the wealthy as well as his political opponents, threatening them with investigations, audits, regulation—even criminal charges—unless they do as they are told.