2020 General Election

[UNI88]

I wonder if those posters will come back once the election is over or if the long arm of government censure will continue past then?

They won't be back. Unless they have a shovel.

That sucks. CS was better with them.

[AZGrizFan]

Honest question and it's not an attack or anything on you, BDK - Are we supposed to take him at his word? The very first questions should be - why should we believe you? Why are you trustworthy? What do you have to gain or lose by speaking out?


And if so, what makes him different from someone like Kelly or Matthis that does have first hand knowledge of things yet they get ignored, ridiculed, etc...?

That should be the first question. Unfortunately that question has not been the first one asked of anyone of either side flinging their accusations around.

I’d say this: why we should take him at his word? He has nothing to protect except his integrity. Otherwise, he has no dog in this fight. Why would ANYONE willingly insert themselves into this fucking goat rope if they didn’t have to?

[Ibanez]

That should be the first question. Unfortunately that question has not been the first one asked of anyone of either side flinging their accusations around.

I’d say this: why we should take him at his word? He has nothing to protect except his integrity. Otherwise, he has no dog in this fight. Why would ANYONE willingly insert themselves into this fucking goat rope if they didn’t have to?

I felt the same way about Vindman.

Who is this fucking Vindman dude. That motherfucker would have gotten fragged by friendly fire before he made LTJG in the Navy.

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[AZGrizFan]

I’d say this: why we should take him at his word? He has nothing to protect except his integrity. Otherwise, he has no dog in this fight. Why would ANYONE willingly insert themselves into this fucking goat rope if they didn’t have to?

I felt the same way about Vindman.

Who is this fucking Vindman dude. That motherfucker would have gotten fragged by friendly fire before he made LTJG in the Navy.

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Completely disagree. Vindman was part of the swamp. He had an absolute vested interest in status quo.

[UNI88]

That should be the first question. Unfortunately that question has not been the first one asked of anyone of either side flinging their accusations around.

I’d say this: why we should take him at his word? He has nothing to protect except his integrity. Otherwise, he has no dog in this fight. Why would ANYONE willingly insert themselves into this fucking goat rope if they didn’t have to?

Maybe Putin has offered something to make it worth his while.

[houndawg]

I disagree. I honestly don't think there is such a thing as an undecided (at least this late in the game), it's about getting your people to come out and actually vote.

Agreed. The question is can enough Trump voters turn out greater than the number of votes the DNC is going to "manufacturer" with the mail in voting schemes going on. We probably won't have an answer until late November.

lol....historic turnout, Bubba. Bigger the turnout bigger the Blue Tsunami.

The Donald's only chances are voter supression and SCOTUS, the gap will be too wide to make gamed voting machines believable.

[89Hen]

voter supression

Good lap dawg.

[kalm]

voter supression

Good lap dawg.

Do the Republicans even try to hide it?

The Supreme Court is down.

[AZGrizFan]

I’d say this: why we should take him at his word? He has nothing to protect except his integrity. Otherwise, he has no dog in this fight. Why would ANYONE willingly insert themselves into this fucking goat rope if they didn’t have to?

Maybe Putin has offered something to make it worth his while.

Maybe.

[houndawg]

I’d say this: why we should take him at his word? He has nothing to protect except his integrity. Otherwise, he has no dog in this fight. Why would ANYONE willingly insert themselves into this fucking goat rope if they didn’t have to?

Maybe Putin has offered something to make it worth his while.

The news anchor on Russia's news offered him asylum and Putin just tossed him under the bus re the "Biden investigation"

The Donald's next gig will be guarding the front door at the Putin-owned Trump Moscow.

Even better, now that he's served his purpose we'll be getting some juicy gossip about things like Helsinki and secret meeting with Russian intel in the Oval Office with no US interpreter present.

[Ibanez]

I felt the same way about Vindman.



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Completely disagree. Vindman was part of the swamp. He had an absolute vested interest in status quo.

Of course you disagree. He spoke up against someone who shares your political views. He wasn't an establishment, career DC bureaucrat. He was a decorate soldier who worked at the Pentagon, starting in 2015 before going to the NSC in 2018. If that tenure makes him "the Swamp", then Trump is now part of it as well.

[SeattleGriz]

Completely disagree. Vindman was part of the swamp. He had an absolute vested interest in status quo.

Of course you disagree. He spoke up against someone who shares your political views. He wasn't an establishment, career DC bureaucrat. He was a decorate soldier who worked at the Pentagon, starting in 2015 before going to the NSC in 2018. If that tenure makes him "the Swamp", then Trump is now part of it as well.

You heard the phone call Trump released didn't you?

[Ibanez]

Of course you disagree. He spoke up against someone who shares your political views. He wasn't an establishment, career DC bureaucrat. He was a decorate soldier who worked at the Pentagon, starting in 2015 before going to the NSC in 2018. If that tenure makes him "the Swamp", then Trump is now part of it as well.

You heard the phone call Trump released didn't you?

I read the transcript.

[SeattleGriz]

You heard the phone call Trump released didn't you?

I read the transcript.

Did it sound like something Trump needed to be impeached over?

[Ibanez]

I read the transcript.

Did it sound like something Trump needed to be impeached over?

Didn't we hash this out already? I think he wasn't acting in the best interest of the country. It sounded like he was asking for dirt on Biden - which isn't in the national interest. Quid Pro Quo isn't illegal, we use it all the time. That is essentially what foreign aid, and to a lesser extent, sanctions are.

[SeattleGriz]

Did it sound like something Trump needed to be impeached over?

Didn't we hash this out already? I think he wasn't acting in the best interest of the country. It sounded like he was asking for dirt on Biden - which isn't in the national interest. Quid Pro Quo isn't illegal, we use it all the time. That is essentially what foreign aid, and to a lesser extent, sanctions are.

We may have hashed this out, but my point was about Vindman. He didn't even hear the conversation first hand. He's hardly a patriot.

[UNI88]

Completely disagree. Vindman was part of the swamp. He had an absolute vested interest in status quo.

Of course you disagree. He spoke up against someone who shares your political views. He wasn't an establishment, career DC bureaucrat. He was a decorate soldier who worked at the Pentagon, starting in 2015 before going to the NSC in 2018. If that tenure makes him "the Swamp", then Trump is now part of it as well.

Trump isn't a part of the DC Swamp. He brought his own personal Swamp with him to DC.

[Ibanez]

Didn't we hash this out already? I think he wasn't acting in the best interest of the country. It sounded like he was asking for dirt on Biden - which isn't in the national interest. Quid Pro Quo isn't illegal, we use it all the time. That is essentially what foreign aid, and to a lesser extent, sanctions are.

We may have hashed this out, but my point was about Vindman. He didn't even hear the conversation first hand. He's hardly a patriot.

I'm not claiming him a patriot. Just that for someone that was in Washington, for now, less time than Trump, and NOT in a political capacity, he isn't the Swamp. Pelosi, Graham, Schumer, McConnell are the Swamp.

[89Hen]

Good lap dawg.

Do the Republicans even try to hide it?

The Supreme Court is down.

Yeah

[89Hen]

dirt on Biden - which isn't in the national interest

I guess that's where we would disagree. Because it's become painfully obvious, nobody in the US media will report on it.

[UNI88]

dirt on Biden - which isn't in the national interest

I guess that's where we would disagree. Because it's become painfully obvious, nobody in the US media will report on it.

I thought the NY Post was reporting on it.

And Fox didn't run with it because they were unable to verify a lot of material from the documents. The tragedy isn't that the media isn't reporting on it, it's that the House ran with similarly questionable material to impeach Trump.

[SeattleGriz]

I guess that's where we would disagree. Because it's become painfully obvious, nobody in the US media will report on it.

I thought the NY Post was reporting on it.

And Fox didn't run with it because they were unable to verify a lot of material from the documents. The tragedy isn't that the media isn't reporting on it, it's that the House ran with similarly questionable material to impeach Trump.

Winner winner, chicken dinner!

[89Hen]

I guess that's where we would disagree. Because it's become painfully obvious, nobody in the US media will report on it.

I thought the NY Post was reporting on it.

And Fox didn't run with it because they were unable to verify a lot of material from the documents. The tragedy isn't that the media isn't reporting on it, it's that the House ran with similarly questionable material to impeach Trump.

Either way. It's obviously inconsistent.

[kalm]

Do the Republicans even try to hide it?

The Supreme Court is down.

Yeah

Nervous insecure laughter noted.

[89Hen]

Yeah

Nervous insecure laughter noted.

Nope, sorry. Not nervous, nor insecure. Just laughing at what a tool you've become during this election cycle.