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Proud deplorable Ultra MAGA fascist NAZI trash clinging to my guns and religion (and whatever else I’ve been labeled by Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris).

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What is Boebert wiping off her left hand?
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.
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It's a little sticky and Byron has that happy ending euphoric look.
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Re: 2024 Primary
New ABC/Washington Post poll has Trump up over Biden 51-42.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trouble ... =103436611

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Yet the donks are too stupid to get rid of Biden.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... umber.html
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Way too soon.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:46 pm Yet the donks are too stupid to get rid of Biden.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... umber.html

You were bleating this same nonsense at this time before the last election too, before the landslide loss
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Said the Republican….BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:46 pm Yet the donks are too stupid to get rid of Biden.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... umber.html
But I agree that Biden is a huge liability and Harris is not a worthy replacement. Then you have Newsome clearly prepping for a run.

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Are you saying it's ironic that a conk too stupid to get rid of trump is criticizing the donks for being too stupid to get rid of Biden?kalm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 6:02 amSaid the Republican….BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:46 pm Yet the donks are too stupid to get rid of Biden.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... umber.html
But I agree that Biden is a huge liability and Harris is not a worthy replacement. Then you have Newsome clearly prepping for a run.
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Biden wins it will be an open race in 2028 with a huge donk primary field.
Trump wins it will be an open race in 2028 with a huge donk primary field.
If you’re a current/former donk governor, senator, Rep, big city mayor, business tycoon with White House aspirations, who do you think you’d have a better chance against:
2024 1 on 1 vs Biden, followed vs Trump in the general.
or
2028 vs 2 doz other current/former donk governors, senators, Reps, big city mayors, business tycoons with White House aspirations, followed by a yet to be named conk in the general..
The answer seems obvious.
Trump wins it will be an open race in 2028 with a huge donk primary field.
If you’re a current/former donk governor, senator, Rep, big city mayor, business tycoon with White House aspirations, who do you think you’d have a better chance against:
2024 1 on 1 vs Biden, followed vs Trump in the general.
or
2028 vs 2 doz other current/former donk governors, senators, Reps, big city mayors, business tycoons with White House aspirations, followed by a yet to be named conk in the general..
The answer seems obvious.
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Yes. Although I still think Biden will bow out in the end. There’s value in a contested primary but I’m less than thrilled by the likely replacement options.
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But if you're the Dem who challenges and beats Biden, but then loses to Trump in the general, you'll be despised by your whole party forever. Heck, even Hillary, for all the Clinton power, barely pokes her head out in public much and it's still 7 years on since she lost and led to a Trump presidency.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:52 am Biden wins it will be an open race in 2028 with a huge donk primary field.
Trump wins it will be an open race in 2028 with a huge donk primary field.
If you’re a current/former donk governor, senator, Rep, big city mayor, business tycoon with White House aspirations, who do you think you’d have a better chance against:
2024 1 on 1 vs Biden, followed vs Trump in the general.
or
2028 vs 2 doz other current/former donk governors, senators, Reps, big city mayors, business tycoons with White House aspirations, followed by a yet to be named conk in the general..
The answer seems obvious.
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I still think he tries to hold on through the election and then resigns not long after the second inaugural. If Trump wasn't still viable as a candidate I think he would've left a while ago.
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Which explains all the wild attempts to bring Trump to justice….
Man, they really hate this guy
Why do they hate him so much but Joey Rotten and his miserable record on everything, is just fine
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Maybe for similar reasons that MAGAt yahoos hate Biden but trump and "his miserable record on everything, is just fine."Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:09 amWhich explains all the wild attempts to bring Trump to justice….
Man, they really hate this guy
Why do they hate him so much but Joey Rotten and his miserable record on everything, is just fine
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For the same reason why multitudes on the right absolutely loathe Biden but turn a blind eye (and exchange it for an adoring eye) to all of Trump's considerable crimes - because they simply want their side to win. Morals and principles matter little, or not even at all. As Al Davis famously quipped, "Just win, baby".Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:09 amWhich explains all the wild attempts to bring Trump to justice….
Man, they really hate this guy
Why do they hate him so much but Joey Rotten and his miserable record on everything, is just fine

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I can mostly agree but the Rotten one had the 4th Estate totally in his corner, and the coordinated narrative against Trump was real but certainly not true in many instancesGannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:19 amFor the same reason why multitudes on the right absolutely loathe Biden but turn a blind eye (and exchange it for an adoring eye) to all of Trump's considerable crimes - because they simply want their side to win. Morals and principles matter little, or not even at all. As Al Davis famously quipped, "Just win, baby".Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:09 am
Which explains all the wild attempts to bring Trump to justice….
Man, they really hate this guy
Why do they hate him so much but Joey Rotten and his miserable record on everything, is just fine![]()
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Most of the MSM doesn't like trump but:Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:13 amI can mostly agree but the Rotten one had the 4th Estate totally in his corner, and the coordinated narrative against Trump was real but certainly not true in many instancesGannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:19 am
For the same reason why multitudes on the right absolutely loathe Biden but turn a blind eye (and exchange it for an adoring eye) to all of Trump's considerable crimes - because they simply want their side to win. Morals and principles matter little, or not even at all. As Al Davis famously quipped, "Just win, baby".![]()
- With social media and the Internet, the MSM is less relevant than ever.
- trump bears 50+% responsibility because of the things he's said and done and how he has treated the media.
What isn't true?
- Fomenting a seditious riot on January 6 - true
- Fraudulent electors - true
- Obstructing the return of classified documents - true
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WellUNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:16 pmMost of the MSM doesn't like trump but:Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:13 am
I can mostly agree but the Rotten one had the 4th Estate totally in his corner, and the coordinated narrative against Trump was real but certainly not true in many instances
- With social media and the Internet, the MSM is less relevant than ever.
- trump bears 50+% responsibility because of the things he's said and done and how he has treated the media.
What isn't true?
- Fomenting a seditious riot on January 6 - true
- Fraudulent electors - true
- Obstructing the return of classified documents - true
The Russia narrative that CNN ran with for years, was total BS instigated by Hillary … nobody on that network was even allowed to question it and CNN was supposed to be fair and balanced…. I won’t even mention MSNBC as they are just hysterical
The Biden campaign was coordinating with Twitter and other social media to have the NY Post story on Hunters laptop buried. Welcome to the Banaba Republic
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I think the trump campaign was communicating with the russians. It was ethically and patriotically questionable but it didn't rise to the level of collusion. Hillary has no room to complain when it comes to engaging in ethically and patriotically questionable activities. She and trump are peas in a pod in that arena.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:52 pmWellUNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:16 pm
Most of the MSM doesn't like trump but:
- With social media and the Internet, the MSM is less relevant than ever.
- trump bears 50+% responsibility because of the things he's said and done and how he has treated the media.
What isn't true?
- Fomenting a seditious riot on January 6 - true
- Fraudulent electors - true
- Obstructing the return of classified documents - true
The Russia narrative that CNN ran with for years, was total BS instigated by Hillary … nobody on that network was even allowed to question it and CNN was supposed to be fair and balanced…. I won’t even mention MSNBC as they are just hysterical
The Biden campaign was coordinating with Twitter and other social media to have the NY Post story on Hunters laptop buried. Welcome to the Banaba Republic
I agree with you on the suppression of the laptop story.
Reelecting trump will take us one step closer to a banana republic. Let's kick both of these clowns to the curb and elect an adult who can actually lead.
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The MSM has a recent and glorious history of backing the establishment and the monied interests (see the lead up to the Iraq War). One of the ironies here is they were ripe for being spotlighted but Trump wasn’t the right guy to do it.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:16 pmMost of the MSM doesn't like trump but:Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:13 am
I can mostly agree but the Rotten one had the 4th Estate totally in his corner, and the coordinated narrative against Trump was real but certainly not true in many instances
- With social media and the Internet, the MSM is less relevant than ever.
- trump bears 50+% responsibility because of the things he's said and done and how he has treated the media.
What isn't true?
- Fomenting a seditious riot on January 6 - true
- Fraudulent electors - true
- Obstructing the return of classified documents - true
But it’s not just establishment media that’s exposing Trump. It’s his own people and his own damn words right up to the present.
Mr. Esper was just on CNN stating that there are reasons to be alarmed by Trump’s threats if he were to be ejected again.
When he tells you who he is, believe him.
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He was the only guy that dared to do it and look what’s happening to him. In the end, Trump played right into their hands but let’s never forget the entire establishment was against the guy like we’ve never seen before … his policies are so much better than the Bozoiden adventure but 35 % are just fine with the fool on Capitol Hill…. Unbelievablekalm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:48 pmThe MSM has a recent and glorious history of backing the establishment and the monied interests (see the lead up to the Iraq War). One of the ironies here is they were ripe for being spotlighted but Trump wasn’t the right guy to do it.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:16 pm
Most of the MSM doesn't like trump but:
- With social media and the Internet, the MSM is less relevant than ever.
- trump bears 50+% responsibility because of the things he's said and done and how he has treated the media.
What isn't true?
- Fomenting a seditious riot on January 6 - true
- Fraudulent electors - true
- Obstructing the return of classified documents - true
But it’s not just establishment media that’s exposing Trump. It’s his own people and his own damn words right up to the present.
Mr. Esper was just on CNN stating that there are reasons to be alarmed by Trump’s threats if he were to be ejected again.
When he tells you who he is, believe him.
Biden is the worst President in the history of the USA
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Re: 2024 Primary
FalseUNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:16 pmMost of the MSM doesn't like trump but:Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:13 am
I can mostly agree but the Rotten one had the 4th Estate totally in his corner, and the coordinated narrative against Trump was real but certainly not true in many instances
- With social media and the Internet, the MSM is less relevant than ever.
- trump bears 50+% responsibility because of the things he's said and done and how he has treated the media.
What isn't true?
- Fomenting a seditious riot on January 6 - true
- Fraudulent electors - true
- Obstructing the return of classified documents - true
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FYP.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:09 pmTrueUNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:16 pm
Most of the MSM doesn't like trump but:
- With social media and the Internet, the MSM is less relevant than ever.
- trump bears 50+% responsibility because of the things he's said and done and how he has treated the media.
What isn't true?
- Fomenting a seditious riot on January 6 - true
- Fraudulent electors - true
- Obstructing the return of classified documents - true
Or are you going to parse words and nitpick details?
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There are numerous primary candidates every election who dare to do it. Also, you do remember Trump also admitting to being a part of the establishment by paying bribes…oops I mean campaign contributions to all the competitors on stage?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:07 pmHe was the only guy that dared to do it and look what’s happening to him. In the end, Trump played right into their hands but let’s never forget the entire establishment was against the guy like we’ve never seen before … his policies are so much better than the Bozoiden adventure but 35 % are just fine with the fool on Capitol Hill…. Unbelievablekalm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:48 pm
The MSM has a recent and glorious history of backing the establishment and the monied interests (see the lead up to the Iraq War). One of the ironies here is they were ripe for being spotlighted but Trump wasn’t the right guy to do it.
But it’s not just establishment media that’s exposing Trump. It’s his own people and his own damn words right up to the present.
Mr. Esper was just on CNN stating that there are reasons to be alarmed by Trump’s threats if he were to be ejected again.
When he tells you who he is, believe him.
Biden is the worst President in the history of the USA
Trump is also a part of the Russia/China/Saudi Arabia/Brazil/Turkey establishment. I’d rather deal with homegrown establishment that operate under our current laws rather than his own made up version of laws, constitutionality, and coercion.
Trump has no one to blame but himself. Neither do his supporters.
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A primary candidate…. So scarykalm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:54 pmThere are numerous primary candidates every election who dare to do it. Also, you do remember Trump also admitting to being a part of the establishment by paying bribes…oops I mean campaign contributions to all the competitors on stage?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:07 pm
He was the only guy that dared to do it and look what’s happening to him. In the end, Trump played right into their hands but let’s never forget the entire establishment was against the guy like we’ve never seen before … his policies are so much better than the Bozoiden adventure but 35 % are just fine with the fool on Capitol Hill…. Unbelievable
Biden is the worst President in the history of the USA
Trump is also a part of the Russia/China/Saudi Arabia/Brazil/Turkey establishment. I’d rather deal with homegrown establishment that operate under our current laws rather than his own made up version of laws, constitutionality, and coercion.
Trump has no one to blame but himself. Neither do his supporters.