Proud Potheads Pushback: Public Perceives Problem "Stoners"

[89Hen]

Cha ching $$$

As in a day late and dollar short?

[Grizalltheway]

Guess he was too stoned to notice it was already posted.

[Chizzang]

Oh I see... Did you know that in 2006
alcohol abuse problems cost the United States $223.5 billion

Nearly 88,000 people die from alcohol related causes annually, making it the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States

In 2012, alcohol-impaired-driving fatalities accounted for 10,322 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities)

That's awful. We should do something about. Don't you agree?

prohibition...?

[JohnStOnge]

Don't know how much others have said on this but I think I agree with the basic point they're trying to make. It's largely based on just my personal experience and the experiences of my friends but I have absolutely no doubt that it's possible to smoke pot regularly and be a productive, successful member of society.

I worked a full time job to put myself through college and got through that education while smoking pot every day the whole time. I would get up in the morning and take a few bong hits with my coffee. I carried a Dr. Grabow pipe in my book bag and smoked between classes. And I smoked in the evening.

I also smoked pot early in my career during which I had one of my proudest accomplishments. I identified a trend in a type of environmental data that no one had ever identified before. The identification allowed for much more efficient management with respect to a very important industry. The management scheme that resulted is in place to this day. It's something I can look at and feel good about having had a tangible, positive impact on the world.

Meanwhile I had friends in college who smoked pot all the time and got through things like pre med and engineering curricula then went on to become successful medical professionals and engineers.

So anyway to me that caricature of someone who smokes pot necessarily being brain fried has always been absurd. It's not the reality I saw in my own life nor is it the reality in the lives of those I associated with during college.

Also, neither I nor any of the friends I'm talking about engaged in any other criminal activity. None of us stole from people. None of us were violent and attacked other people. None of us raped anybody. Also, to my recollection, none of us ever got into motor vehicle accidents that could reasonably be attributed to marijuana use. I did have a couple of friends killed in auto accidents when we were in college, but in both instances they had been drinking heavily. We're not talking 0.08 here. I'm talking blitzed.

I believe that if you did a controlled experiment to see if smoking marijuana impairs performance to some extent you'd get sufficient evidence to say that it does. Nevertheless, I know beyond any doubt that it's possible to smoke marijuana regularly and at the same time have a positive impact.

I also strongly suspect that if we could identify everybody who smokes pot we'd see a whole lot of people who are perceived as being very good at what they do among those identified. We'd see an awful lot of productive, respected members of society in their number.

[Chizzang]

Don't know how much others have said on this but I think I agree with the basic point they're trying to make. It's largely based on just my personal experience and the experiences of my friends but I have absolutely no doubt that it's possible to smoke pot regularly and be a productive, successful member of society.

I worked a full time job to put myself through college and got through that education while smoking pot every day the whole time. I would get up in the morning and take a few bong hits with my coffee. I carried a Dr. Grabow pipe in my book bag and smoked between classes. And I smoked in the evening.

I also smoked pot early in my career during which I had one of my proudest accomplishments. I identified a trend in a type of environmental data that no one had ever identified before. The identification allowed for much more efficient management with respect to a very important industry. The management scheme that resulted is in place to this day. It's something I can look at and feel good about having had a tangible, positive impact on the world.

Meanwhile I had friends in college who smoked pot all the time and got through things like pre med and engineering curricula then went on to become successful medical professionals and engineers.

So anyway to me that caricature of someone who smokes pot necessarily being brain fried has always been absurd. It's not the reality I saw in my own life nor is it the reality in the lives of those I associated with during college.

Also, neither I nor any of the friends I'm talking about engaged in any other criminal activity. None of us stole from people. None of us were violent and attacked other people. None of us raped anybody. Also, to my recollection, none of us ever got into motor vehicle accidents that could reasonably be attributed to marijuana use. I did have a couple of friends killed in auto accidents when we were in college, but in both instances they had been drinking heavily. We're not talking 0.08 here. I'm talking blitzed.

I believe that if you did a controlled experiment to see if smoking marijuana impairs performance to some extent you'd get sufficient evidence to say that it does. Nevertheless, I know beyond any doubt that it's possible to smoke marijuana regularly and at the same time have a positive impact.

I also strongly suspect that if we could identify everybody who smokes pot we'd see a whole lot of people who are perceived as being very good at what they do among those identified. We'd see an awful lot of productive, respected members of society in their number.

Thank you Johnny...
I think that post ^ about sums it up - there we have it - case closed / End of debate

[89Hen]

Thank you Johnny...
I think that post ^ about sums it up - there we have it - case closed / End of debate

So JSO is your poster child.

[Grizalltheway]

Thank you Johnny...
I think that post ^ about sums it up - there we have it - case closed / End of debate

So JSO is your poster child.

He's a lot more reasonable than you and the other reefer madness fuckheads on this issue.

[89Hen]

So JSO is your poster child.

He's a lot more reasonable than you and the other reefer madness fuckheads on this issue.

Nice how you pick your bedmates and then toss them out five minutes later.

[Chizzang]

Thank you Johnny...
I think that post ^ about sums it up - there we have it - case closed / End of debate

So JSO is your poster child.

You can't detect my sarcasm in that reply to JSO's testimony..?
He's a "scientist" who has based his scientific analysis of the dangers of Marijuana on random personal data


But apparently his best work is done while stoned... so you know he's a hell of a scientist

[JohnStOnge]

You can't detect my sarcasm in that reply to JSO's testimony..?
He's a "scientist" who has based his scientific analysis of the dangers of Marijuana on random personal data


But apparently his best work is done while stoned... so you know he's a hell of a scientist

You have to look at what I said. What I said I have no doubt of does not require an exhaustive study. This is the central point of what I wrote:

I have absolutely no doubt that it's possible to smoke pot regularly and be a productive, successful member of society.

All you need to establish that is one example. And I have personal experience with several including myself. I did not make any statement about not having any doubt about the rate at which one could have people who smoke pot be productive, successful members of society. I just said it's possible.

That's the only statement I made about what has been established as true. The rest of it was about what I "believe" or "suspect."

[Chizzang]

You can't detect my sarcasm in that reply to JSO's testimony..?
He's a "scientist" who has based his scientific analysis of the dangers of Marijuana on random personal data


But apparently his best work is done while stoned... so you know he's a hell of a scientist

You have to look at what I said. What I said I have no doubt of does not require an exhaustive study. This is the central point of what I wrote:

I have absolutely no doubt that it's possible to smoke pot regularly and be a productive, successful member of society.

All you need to establish that is one example. And I have personal experience with several including myself. I did not make any statement about not having any doubt about the rate at which one could have people who smoke pot be productive, successful members of society. I just said it's possible.

That's the only statement I made about what has been established as true. The rest of it was about what I "believe" or "suspect."

John you know I pretty much follow you around on here and terrorize you right..?

(Its a living)

[89Hen]

So JSO is your poster child.

You can't detect my sarcasm in that reply to JSO's testimony..?

[houndawg]

Thank you Johnny...
I think that post ^ about sums it up - there we have it - case closed / End of debate

So JSO is your poster child.

coughsuckupcough

[kalm]

Holy crap, I didn't notice this thread was still going.

JSO nailed it (by taking what I said pages ago into book form )

How could they tell the level of impairment in the Stewart deal?

Hippie: There are many jobs where a reasonable person should have no issue with pot use at. You can throw a no-hitter on acid for christ's sake.

[Ivytalk]

Free speech.

Battle for the soul of the enlightened consumer.

Let the people decide.

Unless you're a corporation.


Long live Jambi.

[travelinman67]

20 year British study:
Marijuana is physiologically addictive; causes psychopathy, schizophrenia.

No

Shit

Sherlock

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mless.html

[D1B]

20 year British study:
Marijuana is physiologically addictive; causes psychopathy, schizophrenia.

No

Shit

Sherlock

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mless.html

Conk, fundamentalist, quitter dumb fuck.

[travelinman67]

20 year British study:
Marijuana is physiologically addictive; causes psychopathy, schizophrenia.

No

Shit

Sherlock

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mless.html

Conk, fundamentalist, quitter dumb fuck.

Troll liar

[Chizzang]

20 year British study:
Marijuana is physiologically addictive; causes psychopathy, schizophrenia.

No

Shit

Sherlock

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mless.html

Why does it matter that a drug is addictive or potentially harmful or whatever..?
I mean .. so what

You can find studies that prove anything you want to prove (Global Warming)

Explain why this matters..?

[89Hen]

Why does it matter that a drug is addictive or potentially harmful or whatever..?
I mean .. so what

Because a lot of guys here don't know or admit that.

[CAA Flagship]

20 year British study:
Marijuana is physiologically addictive; causes psychopathy, schizophrenia.

No

Shit

Sherlock

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mless.html

Why does it matter that a drug is addictive or potentially harmful or whatever..?
I mean .. so what

You can find studies that prove anything you want to prove (Global Warming)

Explain why this matters..?

It didn't matter until the ACA. Now, your health is my concern.

[Grizalltheway]

Why does it matter that a drug is addictive or potentially harmful or whatever..?
I mean .. so what

You can find studies that prove anything you want to prove (Global Warming)

Explain why this matters..?

It didn't matter until the ACA. Now, your health is my concern.

So it wasn't a concern when Medicaid/Medicare patients were somking pot?

[CAA Flagship]

It didn't matter until the ACA. Now, your health is my concern.

So it wasn't a concern when Medicaid/Medicare patients were somking pot?

The health concerns are long-term, not short-term. For most Medicaid/Medicare patients, they won't live to see the effects.

[Grizalltheway]

So it wasn't a concern when Medicaid/Medicare patients were somking pot?

The health concerns are long-term, not short-term. For most Medicaid/Medicare patients, they won't live to see the effects.

Horseshit. Willie Nelson is 81 goddamn years old.

[travelinman67]

Why does it matter that a drug is addictive or potentially harmful or whatever..?
I mean .. so what

Because a lot of guys here don't know or admit that.

Bingo!

If readers go back to the thread title post, the issue was pot marketers planning a PR campaign to improve the product and consumer's perceived negative reputation.

Problem is, THERE ARE LEGITIMATE REASONS for those negative issues.