Clinton e-mailgate

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How big a problem is this for Hillary in '16?

Meh, not a big deal
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Moderate, along the lines of Christie's Bridgegate
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Huge
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Pee in GATW's butt
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Re: Clinton e-mailgate

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Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:
I seriously doubt she even knows how servers work, but her handlers do and so yes, this does make it more suspicious.

Is it enough to lose the womyn vote? This indeed might bring others like Gore and Biden into the race.

Gore... :lol: :ohno:

The Democratic Primary might become interesting after all.
She doesn't need to know how they work. My company handles my email for me. Why would I go and get my own server? What purpose does that serve? It's shady. Why? Has she even answered the question of why did she need her own server vs. the one that her .gov email will go through. And why have your own email,when you sent out a memo saying that doing so was against policy? She's a lying piece of shit.
I'm guessing she was told she needed one.
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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
She doesn't need to know how they work. My company handles my email for me. Why would I go and get my own server? What purpose does that serve? It's shady. Why? Has she even answered the question of why did she need her own server vs. the one that her .gov email will go through. And why have your own email,when you sent out a memo saying that doing so was against policy? She's a lying piece of ****.
I'm guessing she was told she needed one.
No doubt. But not exactly a sterling decision on her part to accept that advice, and not a great decision for someone running for an office where they will need to make 1000 decisions per day based on the advice of others.
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GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
I'm guessing she was told she needed one.
No doubt. But not exactly a sterling decision on her part to accept that advice, and not a great decision for someone running for an office where they will need to make 1000 decisions per day based on the advice of others.
Agreed.
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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
She doesn't need to know how they work. My company handles my email for me. Why would I go and get my own server? What purpose does that serve? It's shady. Why? Has she even answered the question of why did she need her own server vs. the one that her .gov email will go through. And why have your own email,when you sent out a memo saying that doing so was against policy? She's a lying piece of shit.
I'm guessing she was told she needed one.
Agreed, but why? What is the root cause of her needing a private server for her role as America's top diplomat? She didn't need one as a Senator or FLOTUS.
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So some days she's the world's smartest woman

Able to take that 3am phone call

And on other days she's an effing retard who has to be led around by the hand

Somehow I don't think those two hillarys exist

Told she needed her own server? Seriously?

Careful you don't cut yourself on that sharp argument year making there

She's an entitled, brazen politician whose ability to snow people has gifted her with breathtaking hubris. Most politicians have this to a degree, but she is the gold standard

And she's going to be Madame President.
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CID1990 wrote:So some days she's the world's smartest woman

Able to take that 3am phone call

And on other days she's an effing retard who has to be led around by the hand

Somehow I don't think those two hillarys exist

Told she needed her own server? Seriously?

Careful you don't cut yourself on that sharp argument year making there

She's an entitled, brazen politician whose ability to snow people has gifted her with breathtaking hubris. Most politicians have this to a degree, but she is the gold standard

And she's going to be Madame President.
Her shit stank!
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CID1990 wrote:So some days she's the world's smartest woman

Able to take that 3am phone call

And on other days she's an effing retard who has to be led around by the hand

Somehow I don't think those two hillarys exist

Told she needed her own server? Seriously?

Careful you don't cut yourself on that sharp argument year making there

She's an entitled, brazen politician whose ability to snow people has gifted her with breathtaking hubris. Most politicians have this to a degree, but she is the gold standard

And she's going to be Madame President.
Most 47 year olds don't know whether they need a server let alone 67 year olds. I agree it's fishy, but you're giving her too much credit.
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This whole email/server scandal only matters if she is indicted…and I will be surprised if that happens. Yeah yeah the FBI is investigating, but so what. The Clintons will cut some kind of a back room deal somewhere and this whole issue will be significantly diminished and she will still be the dem nominee. :ohno:
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CID1990 wrote:So some days she's the world's smartest woman
Well, let's not pretend that that bar is very high.
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:So some days she's the world's smartest woman

Able to take that 3am phone call

And on other days she's an effing retard who has to be led around by the hand

Somehow I don't think those two hillarys exist

Told she needed her own server? Seriously?

Careful you don't cut yourself on that sharp argument year making there

She's an entitled, brazen politician whose ability to snow people has gifted her with breathtaking hubris. Most politicians have this to a degree, but she is the gold standard

And she's going to be Madame President.
Most 47 year olds don't know whether they need a server let alone 67 year olds. I agree it's fishy, but you're giving her too much credit.
Well then weve been right all along-

her greatest accomplishment was her marriage

she has zero business being president (but then who does)
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Most 47 year olds don't know whether they need a server let alone 67 year olds. I agree it's fishy, but you're giving her too much credit.
Well then weve been right all along-

her greatest accomplishment was her marriage

she has zero business being president (but then who does)

This guy....!!!

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Well then weve been right all along-

her greatest accomplishment was her marriage

she has zero business being president (but then who does)

This guy....!!!

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kalm wrote:Most 47 year olds don't know whether they need a server let alone 67 year olds. I agree it's fishy, but you're giving her too much credit.
And you're giving her too much leeway. Shocker. :coffee:
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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:Most 47 year olds don't know whether they need a server let alone 67 year olds. I agree it's fishy, but you're giving her too much credit.
And you're giving her too much leeway. Shocker. :coffee:
Who determines the appropriate amount of leeway? You? Shocker. :coffee:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
89Hen wrote: And you're giving her too much leeway. Shocker. :coffee:
Who determines the appropriate amount of leeway? You? Shocker. :coffee:
You didn't have a problem with kalm determining. Shocker. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:So some days she's the world's smartest woman

Able to take that 3am phone call

And on other days she's an effing retard who has to be led around by the hand

Somehow I don't think those two hillarys exist

Told she needed her own server? Seriously?

Careful you don't cut yourself on that sharp argument year making there

She's an entitled, brazen politician whose ability to snow people has gifted her with breathtaking hubris. Most politicians have this to a degree, but she is the gold standard

And she's going to be Madame President.
Most 47 year olds don't know whether they need a server let alone 67 year olds. I agree it's fishy, but you're giving her too much credit.
the only people taking this tack are Hillary's campaign staffers

and you
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Most 47 year olds don't know whether they need a server let alone 67 year olds. I agree it's fishy, but you're giving her too much credit.
the only people taking this tack are Hillary's campaign staffers

and you
Well shit, ya got me. The jig is up on my efforts to run interference. Back to Daily Kos for my new marching orders. :lol:

All of those tech savvy sexagenarians you and 89 know are backing up their servers as we speak.
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
the only people taking this tack are Hillary's campaign staffers

and you
Well ****, ya got me. The jig is up on my efforts to run interference. Back to Daily Kos for my new marching orders. :lol:

All of those tech savvy sexagenarians you and 89 know are backing up their servers as we speak.
This is where your "I'm independent" facade slips and you give everybody a peek

It doesn't matter one iota whether she is tech savvy or not - she knew better because she was briefed on it when she came on board (that's a fact)

If I or any other employee at DoS had done the same thing we would already be in prison

There's no excuse - she sent and received classified (including SCI) over a private server because she wanted to avoid any congressional oversight

Like Hillary once told David Petraeus once (ironic since he was convicted of similar antics) - this whole story requires a suspension of disbelief to work
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Well ****, ya got me. The jig is up on my efforts to run interference. Back to Daily Kos for my new marching orders. :lol:

All of those tech savvy sexagenarians you and 89 know are backing up their servers as we speak.
This is where your "I'm independent" facade slips and you give everybody a peek

It doesn't matter one iota whether she is tech savvy or not - she knew better because she was briefed on it when she came on board (that's a fact)

If I or any other employee at DoS had done the same thing we would already be in prison

There's no excuse - she sent and received classified (including SCI) over a private server because she wanted to avoid any congressional oversight

Like Hillary once told David Petraeus once (ironic since he was convicted of similar antics) - this whole story requires a suspension of disbelief to work
You'll have to forgive me as I haven't followed the scandal as closely as you because frankly outside of the humor of Hilary getting foiled and unlike you, I'm just not that obsessed with following every right wing conspiracy. Have they closed the trap around Benghazi and the IRS scandal yet? And what ever happened with Vince Foster and Obama's birth certificate? Those cases are still hot, right? :rofl:

Your second sentence is the best explanation yet. You should have gone with that to begin with. If she was briefed on it and told it was illegal than yes, she should pay the price. Obviously someone also briefed her to do otherwise and that would be her fault for playing with fire. But my point about older people understanding how these things work still stands and you know it.

Now...back to Democratic Underground to arm myself for your next reply!

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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
This is where your "I'm independent" facade slips and you give everybody a peek

It doesn't matter one iota whether she is tech savvy or not - she knew better because she was briefed on it when she came on board (that's a fact)

If I or any other employee at DoS had done the same thing we would already be in prison

There's no excuse - she sent and received classified (including SCI) over a private server because she wanted to avoid any congressional oversight

Like Hillary once told David Petraeus once (ironic since he was convicted of similar antics) - this whole story requires a suspension of disbelief to work
You'll have to forgive me as I haven't followed the scandal as closely as you because frankly outside of the humor of Hilary getting foiled and unlike you, I'm just not that obsessed with following every right wing conspiracy. Have they closed the trap around Benghazi and the IRS scandal yet? And what ever happened with Vince Foster and Obama's birth certificate? Those cases are still hot, right? :rofl:

Your second sentence is the best explanation yet. You should have gone with that to begin with. If she was briefed on it and told it was illegal than yes, she should pay the price. Obviously someone also briefed her to do otherwise and that would be her fault for playing with fire. But my point about older people understanding how these things work still stands and you know it.

Now...back to Democratic Underground to arm myself for your next reply!

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older people maybe

the smartest woman in the world -

former first lady and senator with security clearance the whole time

and a small army of government apparatchik sycophants hovering around her

no, not really. it doesnt fly
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Most 47 year olds don't know whether they need a server let alone 67 year olds. I agree it's fishy, but you're giving her too much credit.
the only people taking this tack are Hillary's campaign staffers

and you
Yes, it's amazing anyone would take that tack. I belive her formulated response is that the private server allowed her to simplify to one smart device.

If you belive that I have a bridge in Little Rock to sell you.

The server was set up to conceal communications from future presidential run vetters and to facilitate typical Clinton shadiness. No more, no less.
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93henfan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
the only people taking this tack are Hillary's campaign staffers

and you
Yes, it's amazing anyone would take that tack. I belive her formulated response is that the private server allowed her to simplify to one smart device.

If you belive that I have a bridge in Little Rock to sell you.

The server was set up to conceal communications from future presidential run vetters and to facilitate typical Clinton shadiness. No more, no less.
no no no lets give her the benefit of the doubt

entirely possible she's just an old fogey who doesnt understand email

or rules

or integrity

or PUBLIC service
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CID1990 wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Yes, it's amazing anyone would take that tack. I belive her formulated response is that the private server allowed her to simplify to one smart device.

If you belive that I have a bridge in Little Rock to sell you.

The server was set up to conceal communications from future presidential run vetters and to facilitate typical Clinton shadiness. No more, no less.
no no no lets give her the benefit of the doubt

entirely possible she's just an old fogey who doesnt understand email

or rules

or integrity

or PUBLIC service
If those ^ are your minimum standards
It sounds like you've run out of people to vote for

Might I suggest:

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
no no no lets give her the benefit of the doubt

entirely possible she's just an old fogey who doesnt understand email

or rules

or integrity

or PUBLIC service

If those ^ are your minimum standards
It sounds like you've run out of people to vote for

Might I suggest:


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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
no no no lets give her the benefit of the doubt

entirely possible she's just an old fogey who doesnt understand email

or rules

or integrity

or PUBLIC service
If those ^ are your minimum standards
It sounds like you've run out of people to vote for

Might I suggest:

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actually, there are quite a few democrats AND republicans who fit that bill

James Webb is one

but they would never get a hearing because their politics do not tip off one end of the spectrum or another
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