Brexit Thread

[Ibanez]

Nazi*

Not always used as a proper noun.
"often not capitalized"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Nazi

Aren't you using it as a proper noun?

[BDKJMU]

I think the Brexit is unfortunate, especially for Gen X and Millennials who overwhelmingly voted to stay in the EU. Honestly, and I'm honestly not trying to make this a generational thing, but I think the older folks are romanticizing a bygone era where everyone is solely dependent on themselves.

I really hope as Boomers and older folks die, Gen X/Millenials will create an even more open world...one that mirrors the way we've grown up interconnected to each other. More open borders, more immigration, more information sharing, and just more connected to each other in general. We've created a world where we're becoming reliant on each other...and there's nothing particularly bad about it. While there's drawbacks, the benefits have been enormous. Those that can't accept a changing world (whether socially or economically) are the ones which get left behind...and then bitch about how they've been left behind.

You sound completely out of touch with anyone outside your bubble. How much time do you spend with people who've never lived, gone to school, worked within 100 miles of DC, who are from small cities/towns/rural, who don't have 4 year degrees?

[BDKJMU]

Not always used as a proper noun.
"often not capitalized"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Nazi

Aren't you using it as a proper noun?

Not really. I think you can go either way.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questi ... ammar-nazi

[YoUDeeMan]

I think the Brexit is unfortunate, especially for Gen X and Millennials who overwhelmingly voted to stay in the EU. Honestly, and I'm honestly not trying to make this a generational thing, but I think the older folks are romanticizing a bygone era where everyone is solely dependent on themselves.

I really hope as Boomers and older folks die, Gen X/Millenials will create an even more open world...one that mirrors the way we've grown up interconnected to each other. More open borders, more immigration, more information sharing, and just more connected to each other in general. We've created a world where we're becoming reliant on each other...and there's nothing particularly bad about it. While there's drawbacks, the benefits have been enormous. Those that can't accept a changing world (whether socially or economically) are the ones which get left behind...and then bitch about how they've been left behind.

You sound completely out of touch with anyone outside your bubble. How much time do you spend with people who've never lived, gone to school, worked within 100 miles of DC, who are from small cities/towns/rural, who don't have 4 year degrees?

Trip has no idea what he is talking about. Dude kicked himself out of Muslinism without understanding what that really means, and wants Hillary to win because it helps HIS work prospects. Yet he claims to be for the future of people of his generation...a large number who are being killed by the people who he supports in this election. All of that is trumped by someone who he has been told is a bad person because of the language he uses (versus actually looking at the record of the person he supports).

"Connected" generation, my ass.

Trip is an emotional fraud who can't answer rational questions about his support for a murdering thug of a candidate.

And, he is ghey, but won't admit it.

[JohnStOnge]

I think the Brexit is unfortunate, especially for Gen X and Millennials who overwhelmingly voted to stay in the EU.

I don't know how it'll turn out but I did notice that the outcome was determined by people who, frankly, aren't going to be around all that much longer. By that I mean that people 65 and older voted overwhelmingly to leave. The majority of the rest of the population voted to stay. And, as you say, younger voters voted particularly strongly to stay.

You could split it at 50+ vs. under 50. Either way this vote on the very long term future was won by those who aren't going to have to deal with as long a long term future:



In something like a Presidential election you're dealing with having a President in power for four years. But this Brexit thing impacted the long term future of the nation. There is no turning back. And the youngest people...who are going to have to live for a long time with whatever the impacts are...voted by about 3:1 to stay in the EU. Now they have to live with whatever happens because people 50 and older and especially 65 and older voted by an overwhelming majority to leave.

It IS an interesting situation. And I've heard talking head commentary already about how there is real resentment among the young towards what the old just did.

[Ibanez]

Aren't you using it as a proper noun?

Not really. I think you can go either way.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questi ... ammar-nazi

Did you not refer to someone as a "grammar nazi"?

[clenz]

You sound completely out of touch with anyone outside your bubble. How much time do you spend with people who've never lived, gone to school, worked within 100 miles of DC, who are from small cities/towns/rural, who don't have 4 year degrees?

Trip has no idea what he is talking about. Dude kicked himself out of Muslinism without understanding what that really means, and wants Hillary to win because it helps HIS work prospects. Yet he claims to be for the future of people of his generation...a large number who are being killed by the people who he supports in this election. All of that is trumped by someone who he has been told is a bad person because of the language he uses (versus actually looking at the record of the person he supports).

"Connected" generation, my ass.

Trip is an emotional fraud who can't answer rational questions about his support for a murdering thug of a candidate.

And, he is ghey, but won't admit it.

Which is why it was so ironic when a few months back he called me out for having no plans to leave the state of Iowa while at the same time admit that he's never left, and will never leave, his DC comfort zone.

At 18 I moved 4.5 from home to go to college. By 21 I was married with a mortgage. By 27 I had 2 kids, moved another hour...sorry easterners don't understand miles/hours...60 miles...away from where I grew up/my family(whom I see once a year of I'm lucky and was on my second mortgage. Have traveled by car, so I actually experienced the country not just flown over it, to essentially the entire western and southern US and been to two countries outside the US.


He turned down a job in Delaware because it was too far from his comfort zone. It was a move on f about 100 miles....roughly 1/4 the distance to my childhood home.

He had the balls to suggest I was silly and too insulated to not consider moving my family wit ha 3 year old and infant to Charlotte or San Antonio. You know, 1500 miles. When pressed why he wouldn't move equal distance (Florida or Louisiana) he disappeared.

I do live a somewhat insulated life. However, it was that discussion I realized that while I may live in flyover country he has no idea how the world works with his "whoa is me and my upper middle class sheltered up brining and maybe leaving that bubble." outlook.

Outside of your little DC bubble life is very different. You wouldn't be able to adjust living the life of someone in our generation outside of one of your safe zones you refuse to leave

[kalm]

Just stop.

Typical libtard attitude towards those who will vote for Trump.

Typical libtard? I'll have you know I'm an extraordinary libtard!

Get back to me when you actually figure out what I was making fun of you for.

[Ivytalk]

In something like a Presidential election you're dealing with having a President in power for four years. But this Brexit thing impacted the long term future of the nation. There is no turning back. And the youngest people...who are going to have to live for a long time with whatever the impacts are...voted by about 3:1 to stay in the EU. Now they have to live with whatever happens because people 50 and older and especially 65 and older voted by an overwhelming majority to leave.

It IS an interesting situation. And I've heard talking head commentary already about how there is real resentment among the young towards what the old just did.

Oh, fokk the young. Youth is wasted on those whiny, self-absorbed rat-bastages.

[89Hen]

Wisdom comes with age... except in the case of JSO, then it's senility comes with age.

[HI54UNI]

Already seeing articles about how countries are getting ready to negotiate trade deals with Britain. I think they'll be OK.....

[HI54UNI]

Trip has no idea what he is talking about. Dude kicked himself out of Muslinism without understanding what that really means, and wants Hillary to win because it helps HIS work prospects. Yet he claims to be for the future of people of his generation...a large number who are being killed by the people who he supports in this election. All of that is trumped by someone who he has been told is a bad person because of the language he uses (versus actually looking at the record of the person he supports).

"Connected" generation, my ass.

Trip is an emotional fraud who can't answer rational questions about his support for a murdering thug of a candidate.

And, he is ghey, but won't admit it.

Which is why it was so ironic when a few months back he called me out for having no plans to leave the state of Iowa while at the same time admit that he's never left, and will never leave, his DC comfort zone.

At 18 I moved 4.5 from home to go to college. By 21 I was married with a mortgage. By 27 I had 2 kids, moved another hour...sorry easterners don't understand miles/hours...60 miles...away from where I grew up/my family(whom I see once a year of I'm lucky and was on my second mortgage. Have traveled by car, so I actually experienced the country not just flown over it, to essentially the entire western and southern US and been to two countries outside the US.


He turned down a job in Delaware because it was too far from his comfort zone. It was a move on f about 100 miles....roughly 1/4 the distance to my childhood home.

He had the balls to suggest I was silly and too insulated to not consider moving my family wit ha 3 year old and infant to Charlotte or San Antonio. You know, 1500 miles. When pressed why he wouldn't move equal distance (Florida or Louisiana) he disappeared.

I do live a somewhat insulated life. However, it was that discussion I realized that while I may live in flyover country he has no idea how the world works with his "whoa is me and my upper middle class sheltered up brining and maybe leaving that bubble." outlook.

Outside of your little DC bubble life is very different. You wouldn't be able to adjust living the life of someone in our generation outside of one of your safe zones you refuse to leave

USS Clenz (or USS Iowa) firing a broadside

[BDKJMU]

Typical libtard attitude towards those who will vote for Trump.

Typical libtard? I'll have you know I'm an extraordinary libtard!

Get back to me when you actually figure out what I was making fun of you for.

I only said 2 things in my post you are referring to:
-Refuted the notion of saying the dumber you are, the more likely you are to vote Trump,
-Called someone who pointed out a typo a 'grammar nazi' instead of 'grammar Nazi'.
Trying to make fun of either- weak.

[BDKJMU]

Not really. I think you can go either way.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questi ... ammar-nazi

Did you not refer to someone as a "grammar nazi"?

To someone who pointed out a typo, yeah. 'grammar nazi', 'grammar Nazi' who gives a ****? Just like with the occasional typo.

[BDKJMU]

I think the Brexit is unfortunate, especially for Gen X and Millennials who overwhelmingly voted to stay in the EU.

I don't know how it'll turn out but I did notice that the outcome was determined by people who, frankly, aren't going to be around all that much longer. By that I mean that people 65 and older voted overwhelmingly to leave. The majority of the rest of the population voted to stay. And, as you say, younger voters voted particularly strongly to stay.

You could split it at 50+ vs. under 50. Either way this vote on the very long term future was won by those who aren't going to have to deal with as long a long term future:



In something like a Presidential election you're dealing with having a President in power for four years. But this Brexit thing impacted the long term future of the nation. There is no turning back. And the youngest people...who are going to have to live for a long time with whatever the impacts are...voted by about 3:1 to stay in the EU. Now they have to live with whatever happens because people 50 and older and especially 65 and older voted by an overwhelming majority to leave.

It IS an interesting situation. And I've heard talking head commentary already about how there is real resentment among the young towards what the old just did.

Young people have been voting differently than old people for eons, and as a block older folks have always been more conservative and younger more liberal for as long as I can remember. What's that expression if you're not a liberal when you're young you have no heart, and if you're not a conservative when your older you have no brain, or something like that. Many of those liberal, idealistic, late teens/early 20s, young will get more conservative, or less liberal if you will, as they grow older over the next 30, 40, 50 years.

[CID1990]

I don't follow politics.

Can anyone actually explain what lead to this, and what this actually means moving forward, and not be a complete partisan type hack about it?

In short?

This is just the latest middle class rejection of retail statism.

Standby for more labeling of this as "fascism" by our elite betters

What led to it was exactly the same thing that led to Trump.

[kalm]

I don't follow politics.

Can anyone actually explain what lead to this, and what this actually means moving forward, and not be a complete partisan type hack about it?

In short?

This is just the latest middle class rejection of retail statism.

Standby for more labeling of this as "fascism" by our elite betters

What led to it was exactly the same thing that led to Trump.

[kalm]

Typical libtard? I'll have you know I'm an extraordinary libtard!

Get back to me when you actually figure out what I was making fun of you for.

I only said 2 things in my post you are referring to:
-Refuted the notion of saying the dumber you are, the more likely you are to vote Trump,
-Called someone who pointed out a typo a 'grammar nazi' instead of 'grammar Nazi'.
Trying to make fun of either- weak.

No more 12 years old than saying the dumber you are, the more likely you are to vote Trump. And was a typo grammar nazi.

I probably make more typo/grammatical errors than anyone on this board (well except Dal maybe and Ibanez when he's drunk) but I'm going to hesitate calling others stupid when I create a paragraph like this.

It's not that it's an egregious mistake, it's your constant corrections of everybody else that makes it funny.

I'm not really expecting you to understand.

[Ibanez]

Trip has no idea what he is talking about. Dude kicked himself out of Muslinism without understanding what that really means, and wants Hillary to win because it helps HIS work prospects. Yet he claims to be for the future of people of his generation...a large number who are being killed by the people who he supports in this election. All of that is trumped by someone who he has been told is a bad person because of the language he uses (versus actually looking at the record of the person he supports).

"Connected" generation, my ass.

Trip is an emotional fraud who can't answer rational questions about his support for a murdering thug of a candidate.

And, he is ghey, but won't admit it.

Which is why it was so ironic when a few months back he called me out for having no plans to leave the state of Iowa while at the same time admit that he's never left, and will never leave, his DC comfort zone.

At 18 I moved 4.5 from home to go to college. By 21 I was married with a mortgage. By 27 I had 2 kids, moved another hour...sorry easterners don't understand miles/hours...60 miles...away from where I grew up/my family(whom I see once a year of I'm lucky and was on my second mortgage. Have traveled by car, so I actually experienced the country not just flown over it, to essentially the entire western and southern US and been to two countries outside the US.


He turned down a job in Delaware because it was too far from his comfort zone. It was a move on f about 100 miles....roughly 1/4 the distance to my childhood home.

He had the balls to suggest I was silly and too insulated to not consider moving my family wit ha 3 year old and infant to Charlotte or San Antonio. You know, 1500 miles. When pressed why he wouldn't move equal distance (Florida or Louisiana) he disappeared.

I do live a somewhat insulated life. However, it was that discussion I realized that while I may live in flyover country he has no idea how the world works with his "whoa is me and my upper middle class sheltered up brining and maybe leaving that bubble." outlook.

Outside of your little DC bubble life is very different. You wouldn't be able to adjust living the life of someone in our generation outside of one of your safe zones you refuse to leave

Whoa!!! Boom!!!

[kalm]

A few Scottish replies to Trump's Brexit tweet:

" you fucking cocksplat"
" you tit"
"you touped fucktrumpet"

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/i-am-le ... .bvo3dEBMY

[Ivytalk]

A few Scottish replies to Trump's Brexit tweet:

" you **** cocksplat"
" you tit"
"you touped ****"

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/i-am-le ... .bvo3dEBMY

"Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your kind really makes me puke!"

[Pwns]

Been enjoying a big bucket of popcorn reading Think Progress, Raw Story, and Slate after the Brexit vote. There's something odd about seeing a bunch of leftists be on the same side as big banking institutions.

[kalm]

Been enjoying a big bucket of popcorn reading Think Progress, Raw Story, and Slate after the Brexit vote. There's something odd about seeing a bunch of leftists be on the same side as big banking institutions.

Yep. That's been my take as well.

Of course the flip side is for those conservatives who are anti-trump or pro-remain. Austerity policies and wealth inequality are chickens coming home to roost. There are many parallels between the two.

Many of the areas that voted to leave the EU actually have low migrant populations, but share a sharp rise in poverty over the past decade. After the recession, the UK economy has precariously recovered, but recovery is geographically tilted toward London. In the capital, house prices have risen massively, and wages are far beyond the average seen elsewhere in the country. Outside of London, jobs have been lost, wages depressed, and public services cut massively. Since 2010, the Conservatives’ austerity measures have slashed funding for the NHS, welfare spending, and budgets for social and public services: The keener the deprivation in an area, the higher the cuts, proportionally. So the poorest have borne the brunt of austerity, and had little left to lose. Warnings that the UK faced economic ruin if it voted to leave, borne out by sterling’s collapse to its lowest point since 1985 today, had little effect on communities that already feel excluded from the reported growth in other parts of the EU.

Many of the areas that voted to leave the EU actually have low migrant populations but share a sharp rise in poverty.
Toward the end of the campaign, both sides began to address this angle—those expressing what often amounted to racist views were described as having “legitimate concerns,” a hackneyed and euphemistic phrase that caught on quickly, but did not address the scapegoating of migrants. Switching the scapegoat from the government to the faceless migrant, whether from Syria or Poland, is easier when people are scared for their livelihood, and more convenient for the politicians campaigning on both sides.

In a country racked by inequality, fear is easy to capitalize on. But as well as being afraid, people feel disenfranchised—and they are. Both Labour and the Conservatives have for decades withdrawn into themselves, creating a political class that is drawn predominantly from a homogeneous and elite tranche of society, wealthy and socially removed from the constituents they represent. Many politicians attended the same university, Oxford, and even studied the same course—Politics, Philosophy and Economics. The media are much the same. It’s easy then to believe the establishment is a stitch-up designed to perpetuate inequality and keep an eye out only for themselves.

https://www.thenation.com/article/polit ... hey-hated/

[BDKJMU]

I only said 2 things in my post you are referring to:
-Refuted the notion of saying the dumber you are, the more likely you are to vote Trump,
-Called someone who pointed out a typo a 'grammar nazi' instead of 'grammar Nazi'.
Trying to make fun of either- weak.

No more 12 years old than saying the dumber you are, the more likely you are to vote Trump. And was a typo grammar nazi.

I probably make more typo/grammatical errors than anyone on this board (well except Dal maybe and Ibanez when he's drunk) but I'm going to hesitate calling others stupid when I create a paragraph like this.

It's not that it's an egregious mistake, it's your constant corrections of everybody else that makes it funny.

I'm not really expecting you to understand.

BS- Show me where I am constantly correcting someone else's grammar. Not saying I haven't done it before, you might be able to dig up an example or 2, but its rare. Boy, you have a vivid imagination.

[Bronco]

Saw some quotes from people that didn't appreciate a foreign leader...funny that's also what I call Obama... getting involved in their business.

Wonder if he's figured out that he just isn't that popular. I sure hope he gets real involved with the fall election.