CAA Flagship wrote:That's the second time you posted that. The sun is shining. What time does the sun set in Charlotte? 11:30 pm?Ibanez wrote: It was 9:30 pm and he's waiting for his son to get off the school bus? Cmon. What a bullshit lie. Why can't black men listen to police especially when they know that police are already in edge when they are going through a rough part of town? And yes, that part of town sucks.
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Yes, as clearly demonstrated by how Hitler rose to power in the US in the mid-1800's when Irish were behaving badly and police would knock the occasional one over the head with a billy club. Sounds legitmrklean wrote:93henfan wrote:
I have no problems with a cop roughing up a disorderly person a little. Happened all the time to my Irish ancestors and they seemed to have learned their lesson. Where do you think the term paddywagon" comes from?
Bottom line: you make a policeman's life more difficult, he's going to make yours difficult too, and I'm OK with that, yes.
THIS IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW HITLER CAME TO POWER. PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE SOME OF THERE RIGHTS FOR A SO-CALLED PERCEIVED SAFETY OF THE NATION.
You have a right to be an asshole. You have a right to disrespect police officers and disobey their commands. Just don't expect to be vertical after that.mrklean wrote:93henfan wrote:
I have no problems with a cop roughing up a disorderly person a little. Happened all the time to my Irish ancestors and they seemed to have learned their lesson. Where do you think the term paddywagon" comes from?
Bottom line: you make a policeman's life more difficult, he's going to make yours difficult too, and I'm OK with that, yes.
THIS IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW HITLER CAME TO POWER. PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE SOME OF THERE RIGHTS FOR A SO-CALLED PERCEIVED SAFETY OF THE NATION.
What happens when they turn on you. What if this happened to your wife or sister?93henfan wrote:Yes, as clearly demonstrated by how Hitler rose to power in the US in the mid-1800's when Irish were behaving badly and police would knock the occasional one over the head with a billy club. Sounds legitmrklean wrote:
THIS IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW HITLER CAME TO POWER. PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE SOME OF THERE RIGHTS FOR A SO-CALLED PERCEIVED SAFETY OF THE NATION.
As a formal Naval officer, I expect you to know about rule of force policies of the military. But then again, you were a squid.AZGrizFan wrote:You have a right to be an asshole. You have a right to disrespect police officers and disobey their commands. Just don't expect to be vertical after that.mrklean wrote:
THIS IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW HITLER CAME TO POWER. PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE SOME OF THERE RIGHTS FOR A SO-CALLED PERCEIVED SAFETY OF THE NATION.
If my sister was uncooperative with police and got a black eye, I think when the stupor wore off she'd realize she got what she deserved.mrklean wrote:What happens when they turn on you. What if this happened to your wife or sister?93henfan wrote:
Yes, as clearly demonstrated by how Hitler rose to power in the US in the mid-1800's when Irish were behaving badly and police would knock the occasional one over the head with a billy club. Sounds legit
People don't mind as long as it does not happen to them.
See, I don't act that way so the odds of it ever happening to me are microscopic.mrklean wrote:What happens when they turn on you. What if this happened to your wife or sister?93henfan wrote:
Yes, as clearly demonstrated by how Hitler rose to power in the US in the mid-1800's when Irish were behaving badly and police would knock the occasional one over the head with a billy club. Sounds legit
People don't mind as long as it does not happen to them.
Yeah, except that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Carry on, grunt.mrklean wrote:As a formal Naval officer, I expect you to know about rule of force policies of the military. But then again, you were a squid.AZGrizFan wrote:
You have a right to be an asshole. You have a right to disrespect police officers and disobey their commands. Just don't expect to be vertical after that.
Not a black eye, she was killed. Would that be fine to you?93henfan wrote:If my sister was uncooperative with police and got a black eye, I think when the stupor wore off she'd realize she got what she deserved.mrklean wrote:
What happens when they turn on you. What if this happened to your wife or sister?
People don't mind as long as it does not happen to them.
Precisely. Don't get uppity, no issues.AZGrizFan wrote:See, I don't act that way so the odds of it ever happening to me are microscopic.mrklean wrote:
What happens when they turn on you. What if this happened to your wife or sister?
People don't mind as long as it does not happen to them.
If she pulled a gun, yeah I'd say the police were justified. I'd be sad about the death, sure, but I wouldn't be calling Al Sharpton or CNN. I'd realize she did something very stupid and move on.mrklean wrote:Not a black eye, she was killed. Would that be fine to you?93henfan wrote:
If my sister was uncooperative with police and got a black eye, I think when the stupor wore off she'd realize she got what she deserved.
Yes it does, you said it was ok for a police to kill a person simply because they did not follow their commands. You said nothing about the threat of imminent danger.AZGrizFan wrote:Yeah, except that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Carry on, grunt.mrklean wrote:
As a formal Naval officer, I expect you to know about rule of force policies of the military. But then again, you were a squid.
Who pulled a gun? I said about pulling a gun on anyone. We were talking about following commands of law enforcement. See now you are changing the event.93henfan wrote:If she pulled a gun, yeah I'd say the police were justified. I'd be sad about the death, sure, but I wouldn't be calling Al Sharpton or CNN. I'd realize she did something very stupid and move on.mrklean wrote:
Not a black eye, she was killed. Would that be fine to you?
I'm not changing anything. If you fail to comply with the police, expect repercussions. It's not hard really.mrklean wrote:Who pulled a gun? I said about pulling a gun on anyone. We were talking about following commands of law enforcement. See now you are changing the event.93henfan wrote:
If she pulled a gun, yeah I'd say the police were justified. I'd be sad about the death, sure, but I wouldn't be calling Al Sharpton or CNN. I'd realize she did something very stupid and move on.
mrklean wrote:Yes it does, you said it was ok for a police to kill a person simply because they did not follow their commands. You said nothing about the threat of imminent danger.AZGrizFan wrote:
Yeah, except that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Carry on, grunt.
Klean. I have to ask this. Is there something about showing deference to our Police that is insulting to African Americans?mrklean wrote:93henfan wrote:
I have no problems with a cop roughing up a disorderly person a little. Happened all the time to my Irish ancestors and they seemed to have learned their lesson. Where do you think the term paddywagon" comes from?
Bottom line: you make a policeman's life more difficult, he's going to make yours difficult too, and I'm OK with that, yes.
THIS IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW HITLER CAME TO POWER. PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE SOME OF THERE RIGHTS FOR A SO-CALLED PERCEIVED SAFETY OF THE NATION.
Black people commit the same amount of crimes as white people. We get convicted more because most black cant afford a lawyer when they go to court. THIS IS FACT. White people do the same amount of dirt as black people. Case in point, the white boy in California. He raped a girl and got three months in jail. Three freaking months. You really want to go there???93henfan wrote:I'm not changing anything. If you fail to comply with the police, expect repercussions. It's not hard really.mrklean wrote: Who pulled a gun? I said about pulling a gun on anyone. We were talking about following commands of law enforcement. See now you are changing the event.
Let's cut to the chase here. Blacks disproportionately commit crime in this country, disproportionately cop attitudes with law enforcement, and disproportionately get their uppity asses dealt with harshly.
See the linear relationship? It can't be too hard, even for you.
SeattleGriz wrote:Klean. I have to ask this. Is there something about showing deference to our Police that is insulting to African Americans?mrklean wrote:
THIS IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW HITLER CAME TO POWER. PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE SOME OF THERE RIGHTS FOR A SO-CALLED PERCEIVED SAFETY OF THE NATION.
Absolutely incorrect. Blacks disproportionately commit crime in this country.mrklean wrote:Black people commit the same amount of crimes as white people.
She said he was sitting in his car reading a book. No book was found at the scene. She's lying. I'd take the word of the police over an emotionally upset woman.mrklean wrote:Ibanez wrote: She lied about a book, why wouldn't she lie about a gun?
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She did not not lie bout a book. You need to stop lying about what happened.
Eyewitnesses are worthless. Eyewitnesses saw Michael Brown with his hands up when that was not the case. Eyewitnesses in these cases will hardly ever side with the police. For someone that worked in LE, I figured you'd know that. Don't be color blindmrklean wrote:The shooting did not happen at 9pm. This happened after 3pm. Look at the fucking video. In fact, there is a eye witness who saw the entire event. They just interviewed hr this morning as she was walking her dog. She saw everything. She even stated that a white policemen in a red shirt was the shooter. I'm going to look at the tape and see if there is a cop with a red shirt.Ibanez wrote: It was 9:30 pm and he's waiting for his son to get off the school bus? Cmon. What a bullshit lie. Why can't black men listen to police especially when they know that police are already in edge when they are going through a rough part of town? And yes, that part of town sucks.
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I was mistaken. That's the approximate timing the riots broke out.CAA Flagship wrote:That's the second time you posted that. The sun is shining. What time does the sun set in Charlotte? 11:30 pm?Ibanez wrote: It was 9:30 pm and he's waiting for his son to get off the school bus? Cmon. What a bullshit lie. Why can't black men listen to police especially when they know that police are already in edge when they are going through a rough part of town? And yes, that part of town sucks.
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We tried that before. Then we got Jim Crow. The United States Justice system does not have a favorable track record with the minority community.SeattleGriz wrote:Klean. I have to ask this. Is there something about showing deference to our Police that is insulting to African Americans?mrklean wrote:
THIS IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW HITLER CAME TO POWER. PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE SOME OF THERE RIGHTS FOR A SO-CALLED PERCEIVED SAFETY OF THE NATION.
High crime happen in areas with poverty. It's not just black people, look at any country that as a high poverty rate and you will find a high crime rate. White communities are not policed the same as black and minority communities.93henfan wrote:Absolutely incorrect. Blacks disproportionately commit crime in this country.mrklean wrote:Black people commit the same amount of crimes as white people.
Blacks are 13% of the population. According to 2014 FBI data, blacks accounted for most of the arrests for murder (51.3%), robbery (55.9%) and gambling (58.9%). They were also significantly above the average in several other categories: weapons crimes (40.7%), prostitution and commercialized vice (41.8%) and aggravated assault (33.1%).
Blacks commit violent crime at a per capita rate five times higher than that of whites.
These numbers are astounding, frankly.
