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By the way, I know many hard working poor as well...in fact, there are a few in my direct family (siblings and nieces/nephews). But here's a newsflash: despite the fact that some were born on 3rd base (you know, white, heterosexual, Christian male) they STILL have somehow managed to not get a leg up in life. And why might that be, you ask? Well typically its because of piss poor choices made in their youth--laziness...defying the parents...getting in with the wrong crowd...dropping out of HS...having children out of wedlock...drugs/alcohol...becoming a liberal...things like that. Most of them work hard, but the consequences of their early decisions have haunted them for their entire lives. And most of them have children who have perpetuated these poor decision trees and its become somewhat of an "institutionalized poverty" scenario in a couple branches of the ol' family tree.

Oh and, true story: One of my older (fairly successful) sisters told me, in no uncertain terms, that I owed ALL OF MY SUCCESS to the fact that I was a white male. Bitch. :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
I know you do. Me too. And I also know friends and family who made poor choices and succeeded.
Oh, there's exceptions to every rule...hell, look at Beto O'Rourke. B&E, DUI, etc., etc when younger...now he's considered a dem frontrunner for president! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Chizzang wrote:Politically:
The old "There's nothing better so **** off" attitude we get from the top and from the middle class wanna be's that would die defending a system that cares nothing for them - is where the comedy hits it's real stride
As evidence our soldiers are below middle class (unlike Rome or Greece) where they were honored
Isn't that the same attitude you've espoused here about African Americans and their inability to be successful here in the land of opportunity? "If they can't do it here, then where?"
I was thinking similarly - that was a pretty smooth shift from 3rd gear into reverse....

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AZGrizFan wrote:Our poor would be 1%'ers in almost every other country on the planet. They should consider themselves lucky...
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I know you do. Me too. And I also know friends and family who made poor choices and succeeded.
Oh, there's exceptions to every rule...hell, look at Beto O'Rourke. B&E, DUI, etc., etc when younger...now he's considered a dem frontrunner for president! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Shit...that’s nothing compared to Trump.



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Name one fucking thing Trump has done that is a poor choice or that has fucked up his life?

We will wait, actually no we wont. Just fuck off we dont need a response from people like you.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Name one fucking thing Trump has done that is a poor choice or that has fucked up his life?

We will wait, actually no we wont. Just fuck off we dont need a response from people like you.
You missed the point and included it in one terrible post! Good job!
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AZGrizFan wrote:...Most of them work hard, but the consequences of their early decisions have haunted them for their entire lives. And most of them have children who have perpetuated these poor decision trees and its become somewhat of an "institutionalized poverty" scenario in a couple branches of the ol' family tree...
So they work hard yet the decisions of their youth haunt them to the point of perpetual poverty...

...that's a broken system.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:...Most of them work hard, but the consequences of their early decisions have haunted them for their entire lives. And most of them have children who have perpetuated these poor decision trees and its become somewhat of an "institutionalized poverty" scenario in a couple branches of the ol' family tree...
So they work hard yet the decisions of their youth haunt them to the point of perpetual poverty...

...that's a broken system.
Oooh...that’s a good point!
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∞∞∞ wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:...Most of them work hard, but the consequences of their early decisions have haunted them for their entire lives. And most of them have children who have perpetuated these poor decision trees and its become somewhat of an "institutionalized poverty" scenario in a couple branches of the ol' family tree...
So they work hard yet the decisions of their youth haunt them to the point of perpetual poverty...

...that's a broken system.
No, no it's not. That is the stereotypical bleeding heart liberal's response, but it's categorically untrue. Everyone born in America, by and large, is a compilation of their life choices (yes, there are a few exceptions). That's why they call it LIFE. This isn't monopoly or a video game where you get multiple chances to get it right. But even if you work your ass off, not everyone gets the brass ring. And working hard <> working smart.

Example #1: My big brother....fairly smart dude, but dropped out of HS because it wasn't worth his time. Now at 58 years old must live with his daughter because he can't hold a job long enough to gain traction. ALWAYS thinks he's smarter than the boss and ends up getting into a pissing contest and leaving within 3-4 months (hell, sometimes weeks or days). I would venture he's had 250+ jobs in his lifetime. He has some very rare skills that allow him to continually GAIN employment, but he just can't KEEP employment. He doesn't have a pot to piss in. Can't rub two nickels together. He has a college degree (ultimately got his GED) and is currently working the swing shift at the Tesla plant in Reno. We'll see how long that lasts.

Example #2: My nephew. Born into a single parent family. No father figure his entire childhood. My brothers and I attempted to fill that void, and he was a pretty good kid. But hey, he's a white, hetero male, so he's already on 3rd base, right? The world is his oyster, yeah? Unfortunately, once he became an adult, he got mixed with the wrong crowd, became a full-fledged raging communist and now, at age 36, sits (LITERALLY) in his mother's basement all day, collecting a disability check (because, you know, he hurt his back working at the mattress store :roll: :roll: ) and writes in his manifesto about how fucked up our system is. He's also very smart. Just chooses to apply his brains in a not-so-productive direction...and now he'd rather game the system than go get a real job. OK, so maybe he's not a good example because he's NOT working hard. :lol: But he's poor by CHOICE. He CHOOSES not to work hard. And no amount of money, training, schooling (he's attempted to start college EIGHT times) will change that. He's a fucking slug and that's that. Zero sympathy from me.

If either of these two WANTED to change their scenario, there's a multitude of options, programs and ways to do it. But they just don't want to have to work that hard, or play the game, so they tread water where they are--just like the vast majority of the working poor. Call me a cynic. Call me an unsympathetic douchebag...really don't care. If you REALLY want to stop living hand-to-mouth, it can be done. Instead, people believe they are OWED what someone else has (and has worked for), instead of WANTING it and being willing to do what's necessary to get it. THAT'S a broken system, Trip. THAT'S where it went off the rails...
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Those two examples are people making decisions...as adults.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:...Most of them work hard, but the consequences of their early decisions have haunted them for their entire lives. And most of them have children who have perpetuated these poor decision trees and its become somewhat of an "institutionalized poverty" scenario in a couple branches of the ol' family tree...
So they work hard yet the decisions of their youth haunt them to the point of perpetual poverty...

...that's a broken system.
Its called life get a fucking helmet Corkey.

Only a true asshole would think life is suooosed to be "fair". We are just another animal in the food chain

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∞∞∞ wrote: So they work hard yet the decisions of their youth haunt them to the point of perpetual poverty...

...that's a broken system.
No, no it's not. That is the stereotypical bleeding heart liberal's response, but it's categorically untrue. Everyone born in America, by and large, is a compilation of their life choices (yes, there are a few exceptions). That's why they call it LIFE. This isn't monopoly or a video game where you get multiple chances to get it right. But even if you work your ass off, not everyone gets the brass ring. And working hard <> working smart.

Example #1: My big brother....fairly smart dude, but dropped out of HS because it wasn't worth his time. Now at 58 years old must live with his daughter because he can't hold a job long enough to gain traction. ALWAYS thinks he's smarter than the boss and ends up getting into a pissing contest and leaving within 3-4 months (hell, sometimes weeks or days). I would venture he's had 250+ jobs in his lifetime. He has some very rare skills that allow him to continually GAIN employment, but he just can't KEEP employment. He doesn't have a pot to piss in. Can't rub two nickels together. He has a college degree (ultimately got his GED) and is currently working the swing shift at the Tesla plant in Reno. We'll see how long that lasts.

Example #2: My nephew. Born into a single parent family. No father figure his entire childhood. My brothers and I attempted to fill that void, and he was a pretty good kid. But hey, he's a white, hetero male, so he's already on 3rd base, right? The world is his oyster, yeah? Unfortunately, once he became an adult, he got mixed with the wrong crowd, became a full-fledged raging communist and now, at age 36, sits (LITERALLY) in his mother's basement all day, collecting a disability check (because, you know, he hurt his back working at the mattress store :roll: :roll: ) and writes in his manifesto about how fucked up our system is. He's also very smart. Just chooses to apply his brains in a not-so-productive direction...and now he'd rather game the system than go get a real job. OK, so maybe he's not a good example because he's NOT working hard. Image But he's poor by CHOICE. He CHOOSES not to work hard. And no amount of money, training, schooling (he's attempted to start college EIGHT times) will change that. He's a fucking slug and that's that. Zero sympathy from me.

If either of these two WANTED to change their scenario, there's a multitude of options, programs and ways to do it. But they just don't want to have to work that hard, or play the game, so they tread water where they are--just like the vast majority of the working poor. Call me a cynic. Call me an unsympathetic douchebag...really don't care. If you REALLY want to stop living hand-to-mouth, it can be done. Instead, people believe they are OWED what someone else has (and has worked for), instead of WANTING it and being willing to do what's necessary to get it. THAT'S a broken system, Trip. THAT'S where it went off the rails...
You are 100% right and left wing pussies that dont agree are part of the problem.

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Name one fucking thing Trump has done that is a poor choice or that has fucked up his life?

We will wait, actually no we wont. Just fuck off we dont need a response from people like you.
Politically, where do I begin? How about the shutdown. Or his failed promise regarding wiping out the debt. Or his maintaining the status quo with Saudi Arabia. Or him defending dictators like Un while dismissing his own intelligence agencies. His constant lying and ignoring facts. TWITTER


Personally, his adultery.
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Ibanez wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Name one fucking thing Trump has done that is a poor choice or that has fucked up his life?

We will wait, actually no we wont. Just fuck off we dont need a response from people like you.
Politically, where do I begin? How about the shutdown. Or his failed promise regarding wiping out the debt. Or his maintaining the status quo with Saudi Arabia. Or him defending dictators like Un while dismissing his own intelligence agencies. His constant lying and ignoring facts. TWITTER


Personally, his adultery.
The shutdown was the right thing to do so is talking with Un. Our intelligence agencies are corrupt so wrong again. Who cares about Twitter, i think its funny he employs somebody to tweet all the time and keep living in weak minded peoples heads.

You are wrong so much its laughable, its why we elected Trump and will do so again in 2020 you guys are on the wring side of history

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∞∞∞ wrote:Those two examples are people making decisions...as adults.
Yes. Poor decisions. From the time they were cognizant enough to be making decisions for themselves. They are poor decision makers. The difference is, ONE blames society/the system, while the other does not. I'll let you guess which one is which.
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Ibanez wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Name one fucking thing Trump has done that is a poor choice or that has fucked up his life?

We will wait, actually no we wont. Just fuck off we dont need a response from people like you.
Politically, where do I begin? How about the shutdown. Or his failed promise regarding wiping out the debt. Or his maintaining the status quo with Saudi Arabia. Or him defending dictators like Un while dismissing his own intelligence agencies. His constant lying and ignoring facts. TWITTER


Personally, his adultery.
Dude. Those are presidential actions. He's talking about during his formative years. :coffee: :coffee:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Politically, where do I begin? How about the shutdown. Or his failed promise regarding wiping out the debt. Or his maintaining the status quo with Saudi Arabia. Or him defending dictators like Un while dismissing his own intelligence agencies. His constant lying and ignoring facts. TWITTER


Personally, his adultery.
The shutdown was the right thing to do so is talking with Un. Our intelligence agencies are corrupt so wrong again. Who cares about Twitter, i think its funny he employs somebody to tweet all the time and keep living in weak minded peoples heads.

You are wrong so much its laughable, its why we elected Trump and will do so again in 2020 you guys are on the wring side of history

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I didn't say he shouldn't talk with Un. Perhaps you go back and read what I posted.


And he accomplished nothing with the shutdown. Even the lemmings at Fox News will admit that much.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Politically, where do I begin? How about the shutdown. Or his failed promise regarding wiping out the debt. Or his maintaining the status quo with Saudi Arabia. Or him defending dictators like Un while dismissing his own intelligence agencies. His constant lying and ignoring facts. TWITTER


Personally, his adultery.
Dude. Those are presidential actions. He's talking about during his formative years. :coffee: :coffee:
Draft Dodger
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It's pretty naive to not think he hasn't made poor choices.

And let's not forget about Trump Steaks or GoTrump.com. :lol:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Politically, where do I begin? How about the shutdown. Or his failed promise regarding wiping out the debt. Or his maintaining the status quo with Saudi Arabia. Or him defending dictators like Un while dismissing his own intelligence agencies. His constant lying and ignoring facts. TWITTER


Personally, his adultery.
Dude. Those are presidential actions. He's talking about during his formative years. :coffee: :coffee:
It doesn't matter all they have is bullshit lies and made up shit

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Dude. Those are presidential actions. He's talking about during his formative years. :coffee: :coffee:
It doesn't matter all they have is bullshit lies and made up shit

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Dude. Those are presidential actions. He's talking about during his formative years. :coffee: :coffee:
Draft Dodger
Adultery

It's pretty naive to not think he hasn't made poor choices.

And let's not forget about Trump Steaks or GoTrump.com. :lol:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Draft Dodger
Adultery

It's pretty naive to not think he hasn't made poor choices.

And let's not forget about Trump Steaks or GoTrump.com. :lol:
I see your Draft Dodger and I raise you a Melania. :kisswink:
Oh. So dodging the draft is negated by marrying an attractive woman? Got it.


If only someone had told Clinton that. :mrgreen:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Draft Dodger
Adultery

It's pretty naive to not think he hasn't made poor choices.

And let's not forget about Trump Steaks or GoTrump.com. :lol:
I see your Draft Dodger and I raise you a Melania. :kisswink:

Right... A woman that won't touch him
and actually slaps his hand away in public

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I see your Draft Dodger and I raise you a Melania. :kisswink:

Right... A woman that won't touch him
and actually slaps his hand away in public

:coffee:
But he still gets to call her his wife. :lol: :lol:
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