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SDHornet wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:12 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:27 pm

See, I'm seeing it as the DOJ might not even file charges at all. The imminent is the part about waiting.
I think they file. They'll do anything to keep him from running in '24.
He can't run again since he's already been elected twice. :lol:
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houndawg wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:23 am
SDHornet wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:12 pm

I think they file. They'll do anything to keep him from running in '24.
He can't run again since he's already been elected twice. :lol:
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I’m not sure he’s a threat to win as much as the corresponding shit show a new campaign would bring. He’s still wildly popular among Republican voters.

Republican leadership also hopes he’s taken down.
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:53 am
houndawg wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:23 am

He can't run again since he's already been elected twice. :lol:
:nod:

I’m not sure he’s a threat to win as much as the corresponding shit show a new campaign would bring. He’s still wildly popular among Republican voters.

Republican leadership also hopes he’s taken down.
I hope they keep being forced to voice their support of the greatness that is him in the media.

Their grandchildren will change their names. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:07 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:53 am

:nod:

I’m not sure he’s a threat to win as much as the corresponding shit show a new campaign would bring. He’s still wildly popular among Republican voters.

Republican leadership also hopes he’s taken down.
I hope they keep being forced to voice their support of the greatness that is him in the media.

Their grandchildren will change their names. :coffee:
This is sadly true. :lol:
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I’m not sure if this is correct.

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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:34 am I’m not sure if this is correct.

Depends what you are saying. Kash Patel has been saying from the start that Trump has documents that have been declassified but the markings have not been updated on Trump's copies.

I'm telling you. All this stuff that everyone is now talking about has been discussed for two years.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:54 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:34 am I’m not sure if this is correct.

Depends what you are saying. Kash Patel has been saying from the start that Trump has documents that have been declassified but the markings have not been updated on Trump's copies.

I'm telling you. All this stuff that everyone is now talking about has been discussed for two years.
Then why doesn’t he simply make the declassified documents public? I mean he has that power right?
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:16 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:54 am

Depends what you are saying. Kash Patel has been saying from the start that Trump has documents that have been declassified but the markings have not been updated on Trump's copies.

I'm telling you. All this stuff that everyone is now talking about has been discussed for two years.
Then why doesn’t he simply make the declassified documents public? I mean he has that power right?
Because Durham still has an active investigation. If he releases the documents, it influences his case. He wanted to release after Mueller, but was going through redactions for public consumption and then Durham started. Been two years waiting for them to be released.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:45 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:16 am

Then why doesn’t he simply make the declassified documents public? I mean he has that power right?
Because Durham still has an active investigation. If he releases the documents, it influences his case. He wanted to release after Mueller, but was going through redactions for public consumption and then Durham started. Been two years waiting for them to be released.
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:12 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:45 am

Because Durham still has an active investigation. If he releases the documents, it influences his case. He wanted to release after Mueller, but was going through redactions for public consumption and then Durham started. Been two years waiting for them to be released.
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IF I'm right, which who the hell knows, the FBI play here is to tie up Trump's documents so they cannot be used in Trump's court case against Hillary, FBI agents and others. That trial is based out of Florida and not DC. Much more favorable jury.

Could be coincidence, but just as Trump's case started movement, the FBI raided MAL. What better way to see what Trump has on them.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:17 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:12 am

NEXT LEVEL SHIT!
IF I'm right, which who the hell knows, the FBI play here is to tie up Trump's documents so they cannot be used in Trump's court case against Hillary, FBI agents and others. That trial is based out of Florida and not DC. Much more favorable jury.

Could be coincidence, but just as Trump's case started movement, the FBI raided MAL. What better way to see what Trump has on them.
Well you've been wrong on every post in this thread so why reverse course now? The documents are still classified. Mark it down that I said this. Still classified.

Interesting that Trump's legal team has never asserted that they have been declassified. In fact, when they asked for a special master, they specified that they should have a top secret clearance. No need to that stipulation for unclassified docs.

Some are regurgitating taking points and never held any level of security clearance and it shows. I had a secret and can tell you I cringe when I read what some are posting on this thread. Just stop.
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bobbythekidd wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:16 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:17 am

IF I'm right, which who the hell knows, the FBI play here is to tie up Trump's documents so they cannot be used in Trump's court case against Hillary, FBI agents and others. That trial is based out of Florida and not DC. Much more favorable jury.

Could be coincidence, but just as Trump's case started movement, the FBI raided MAL. What better way to see what Trump has on them.
Well you've been wrong on every post in this thread so why reverse course now? The documents are still classified. Mark it down that I said this. Still classified.

Interesting that Trump's legal team has never asserted that they have been declassified. In fact, when they asked for a special master, they specified that they should have a top secret clearance. No need to that stipulation for unclassified docs.

Some are regurgitating taking points and never held any level of security clearance and it shows. I had a secret and can tell you I cringe when I read what some are posting on this thread. Just stop.
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What exactly have I been wrong about? How about specifics.

No backing out and saying, "nobody knows". Let's hear your version as well.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:16 am
bobbythekidd wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:16 am
Well you've been wrong on every post in this thread so why reverse course now? The documents are still classified. Mark it down that I said this. Still classified.

Interesting that Trump's legal team has never asserted that they have been declassified. In fact, when they asked for a special master, they specified that they should have a top secret clearance. No need to that stipulation for unclassified docs.

Some are regurgitating taking points and never held any level of security clearance and it shows. I had a secret and can tell you I cringe when I read what some are posting on this thread. Just stop.
:lol:

What exactly have I been wrong about? How about specifics.

No backing out and saying, "nobody knows". Let's hear your version as well.
He did. Start with declassification.
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:04 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:16 am

:lol:

What exactly have I been wrong about? How about specifics.

No backing out and saying, "nobody knows". Let's hear your version as well.
He did. Start with declassification.
Oh, his observation. The one he speculated over? Well there you go. Bobbi's got it all figured out. :ohno: When Cid pulled a Cid, it didn't work back then, it doesn't work now. Show your work.

Trump declassified. I don't know why the Master needs security clearance.

I'll post this again. Information has been out there for years. This is a recent recap below. It started before Trump left office. Would you like a link from 2019 talking about Trump planning on declassifying these documents?

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... ase-russia
Meadows' memo confirmed prior reporting by Just the News that Trump on Jan. 19, 2021 declassified a binder of hundreds of pages of sensitive FBI documents that show how the bureau used informants and FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign and misled both a federal court and Congress about flaws in the evidence they offered to get approval for the investigation
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:22 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:04 am
He did. Start with declassification.
Oh, his observation. The one he speculated over? Well there you go. Bobbi's got it all figured out. :ohno: When Cid pulled a Cid, it didn't work back then, it doesn't work now. Show your work.

Trump declassified. I don't know why the Master needs security clearance.

I'll post this again. Information has been out there for years. This is a recent recap. It started before Trump left office. Would you like a link from 2019 talking about Trump declassifying these documents?

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... ase-russia
Meadows' memo confirmed prior reporting by Just the News that Trump on Jan. 19, 2021 declassified a binder of hundreds of pages of sensitive FBI documents that show how the bureau used informants and FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign and misled both a federal court and Congress about flaws in the evidence they offered to get approval for the investigation
Focusing on declassification is a deflection. There is more to it than that. trump is employing his usual legal strategy of bluster, bluff, obfuscate and delay. It might work against some Jersey subcontractor but the government has more lawyers and more patience. This is going to be interesting.

I would trust CID's opinion on this (and Ukraine) more than any fringe, whack-job, rightwing so called expert from Conservative Treehouse and the like or their fringe, whack-job, leftwing so called expert counterparts from Vox, etc.

The trump fromunda cheese eaters will do anything to defend him.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:30 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:22 am

Oh, his observation. The one he speculated over? Well there you go. Bobbi's got it all figured out. :ohno: When Cid pulled a Cid, it didn't work back then, it doesn't work now. Show your work.

Trump declassified. I don't know why the Master needs security clearance.

I'll post this again. Information has been out there for years. This is a recent recap. It started before Trump left office. Would you like a link from 2019 talking about Trump declassifying these documents?

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... ase-russia

Focusing on declassification is a deflection. There is more to it than that. trump is employing his usual legal strategy of bluster, bluff, obfuscate and delay. It might work against some Jersey subcontractor but the government has more lawyers and more patience. This is going to be interesting.

I would trust CID's opinion on this (and Ukraine) more than any fringe, whack-job, rightwing so called expert from Conservative Treehouse and the like or their fringe, whack-job, leftwing so called experts from Vox, etc.

The trump fromunda cheese eaters will do anything to defend him.
So let me get this straight. There are stories dating back to 2019 about Trump declassifying documents of Operation Hurricane and then the subsequent stonewalling of the release of those documents, but it's all wrong?

That's amazing how someone can write EXACTLY an article that would be pertinent 2 years later, but be totally wrong about the subject. I wonder what those odds are?
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I don't know the specifics, but do know if my hunch and what others have corroborated with past reporting and documentary proof is correct, this whole deal is all about that binder of documents that Trump directed to be declassified in Jan of 2021, but has been talked about well before that date.

John Solomon was being fed information, just like WaPo and NYT are fed information. He was going to write about the documents, but obviously has been waiting for them to be released.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:33 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:30 am
Focusing on declassification is a deflection. There is more to it than that. trump is employing his usual legal strategy of bluster, bluff, obfuscate and delay. It might work against some Jersey subcontractor but the government has more lawyers and more patience. This is going to be interesting.

I would trust CID's opinion on this (and Ukraine) more than any fringe, whack-job, rightwing so called expert from Conservative Treehouse and the like or their fringe, whack-job, leftwing so called expert counterparts from Vox, etc.

The trump fromunda cheese eaters will do anything to defend him.
So let me get this straight. There are stories dating back to 2019 about Trump declassifying documents of Operation Hurricane and then the subsequent stonewalling of the release of those documents, but it's all wrong?

That's amazing how someone can write EXACTLY an article that would be pertinent 2 years later, but be totally wrong about the subject. I wonder what those odds are?
Can trump declassify a document and immediately give it to the Washington Times? Or does sensitive information such as names of agents, sources and methods need to be redacted? Even if it is legal, it would be unpatriotic to risk the exposure of that kind of information to America's enemies.

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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:47 am I don't know the specifics, but do know if my hunch and what others have corroborated with past reporting and documentary proof is correct, this whole deal is all about that binder of documents that Trump directed to be declassified in Jan of 2021, but has been talked about well before that date.

John Solomon was being fed information, just like WaPo and NYT are fed information. He was going to write about the documents, but obviously has been waiting for them to be released.
No way its the whole deal - partially maybe.

What do you think Russia or China would pay for boxes full of Top Secret files? Guarantee he's already sold some copies, he needs the money :nod:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:33 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:30 am

Focusing on declassification is a deflection. There is more to it than that. trump is employing his usual legal strategy of bluster, bluff, obfuscate and delay. It might work against some Jersey subcontractor but the government has more lawyers and more patience. This is going to be interesting.

I would trust CID's opinion on this (and Ukraine) more than any fringe, whack-job, rightwing so called expert from Conservative Treehouse and the like or their fringe, whack-job, leftwing so called experts from Vox, etc.

The trump fromunda cheese eaters will do anything to defend him.
So let me get this straight. There are stories dating back to 2019 about Trump declassifying documents of Operation Hurricane and then the subsequent stonewalling of the release of those documents, but it's all wrong?

That's amazing how someone can write EXACTLY an article that would be pertinent 2 years later, but be totally wrong about the subject. I wonder what those odds are?
So the various intelligence designations submitted by the DoJ regarding national security were actually about the FBI and Durham?
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:05 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:33 am
So let me get this straight. There are stories dating back to 2019 about Trump declassifying documents of Operation Hurricane and then the subsequent stonewalling of the release of those documents, but it's all wrong?

That's amazing how someone can write EXACTLY an article that would be pertinent 2 years later, but be totally wrong about the subject. I wonder what those odds are?
So the various intelligence designations submitted by the DoJ regarding national security were actually about the FBI and Durham?
People who believe that are more likely to also believe conspiracies like trump is fighting a secret cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophiles. They're mirror images of their counterparts who believe that socialism will work this time. :D
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:05 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:33 am

So let me get this straight. There are stories dating back to 2019 about Trump declassifying documents of Operation Hurricane and then the subsequent stonewalling of the release of those documents, but it's all wrong?

That's amazing how someone can write EXACTLY an article that would be pertinent 2 years later, but be totally wrong about the subject. I wonder what those odds are?
So the various intelligence designations submitted by the DoJ regarding national security were actually about the FBI and Durham?
If we are talking about that binder, it concerns information collected during Mueller's investigation. Interviews with people involved, text records, who was doing NSA searches in databases, etc. Most likely items we've seen as well, but had a large amount of redactions.

Why would Trump try to declassify anything other than what he believed would prove Hillary and the DOJ pulled some crazy stuff trying to frame him for Russia Collusion?

It's the same question you had about Nuke secrets? Why?
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:05 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:33 am

So let me get this straight. There are stories dating back to 2019 about Trump declassifying documents of Operation Hurricane and then the subsequent stonewalling of the release of those documents, but it's all wrong?

That's amazing how someone can write EXACTLY an article that would be pertinent 2 years later, but be totally wrong about the subject. I wonder what those odds are?
So the various intelligence designations submitted by the DoJ regarding national security were actually about the FBI and Durham?
Shouldn't Durham be sending out subpoenas and indictments and shit? I heard he's got Hillary dead to rights on Benghazi! and Vince Foster :nod:
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:57 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:33 am

So let me get this straight. There are stories dating back to 2019 about Trump declassifying documents of Operation Hurricane and then the subsequent stonewalling of the release of those documents, but it's all wrong?

That's amazing how someone can write EXACTLY an article that would be pertinent 2 years later, but be totally wrong about the subject. I wonder what those odds are?
Can trump declassify a document and immediately give it to the Washington Times? Or does sensitive information such as names of agents, sources and methods need to be redacted? Even if it is legal, it would be unpatriotic to risk the exposure of that kind of information to America's enemies.

But keep up the good fight ...
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If you want to understand what happened and where we are in that declassification process, read the link I provided from Just the News. Shouldn't take you more than 5 minutes.
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houndawg wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:20 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:05 pm

So the various intelligence designations submitted by the DoJ regarding national security were actually about the FBI and Durham?
Shouldn't Durham be sending out subpoenas and indictments and shit? I heard he's got Hillary dead to rights on Benghazi! and Vince Foster :nod:
Well we saw what happened with Sussman, so I don't think Durham will produce much, as I expected.
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