Coronavirus COVID-19

[CitadelGrad]

We’re sacrificing the next 10 years of this country’s economic future (and the future of millions and millions of Americans in the process) for the sake of a flu season. Brilliant.

I hope you’re right! And that you can gloat about the over action 18 months from now....


With the comfort of not ever understanding what happened.

You have some special insight about what is happening? Please enlighten us all.

[AshevilleApp]

Well I'm glad to see you all have come an agreement on this!

From what I'm seeing here, people are being amazingly compliant with state and local mandates. It's putting a hurt on many people locally, largely due to the reliance on service sector jobs here. It may help in the long run if the measures help stave off a bad outbreak. Also, parking is currently free in downtown Asheville!

I'll go out on a limb and say both sides of the debate will claim victory in 6 months, one way or another. And how will we know who is right? If people comply with the restrictions and the virus doesn't get too bad, some will claim that it was because of the requirements. Others will say that it was never a threat to start with. Same shit, different issue.

[CID1990]

Look people. At some point anybody with a brain needs to admit that Trump mishandled this. And anybody with a brain needs to admit that he is continuing to do so. Stuff like insisting on calling it the "Chinese virus" when he knows a bunch of people are offended by that. And he knows that a bunch of people will be offended by it. There is no reason to do it. Or stuff today like attacking the reporter. He is dividing the country when it needs to be united.

For weeks his response was to try to say it was no big deal. It was nothing compared to the seasonal flu. That sort of thing. It's not nothing compared to the seasonal flu. It's already stressing hospitals in some areas of the United States to an extent that doesn't happen with the seasonal flu. King County Washington has leased two hotels to handle extra cases and is in the process of building another facility. That doesn't happen very year with the seasonal flu.

He's said nobody saw this coming. Plenty of people saw the potential of this sort of thing coming.

He's just been a total fail on this.

-West Nile Virus (West Nile, Uganda)
-Guinea Worm (Guinea, Africa)
-German Measles (Rubella)
-Spanish Flu
-Zaire Ebola virus
-Ross River Fever (New South Wales, Australia)
-Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever (Omsk, Russia)
-Marburg virus (Marburg, Germany)
-Lassa, Fever (Lassa, Nigeria)
-La Crosse Encephalitis (La Crosse, Wisconsin)
-St. Louis Encephalitis
-Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever
-Lyme Disease- Lyme Connecticut
-MERS-coronavirus (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) (camel flu)
But call COVID the Wuhan, or Chinese virus- RACIST! RACIST!

Give me a break. We've been naming diseases by countries or regions for hundreds of years, but when Trump does it, its racist because Orange Man Bad. If a virus originated in America, and the US govt covered it up for a month, eventually causing a worldwide pandemic, does anyone doubt the whole world would be calling it the “American Virus”?

While this virus doesn’t have anything to do with most of the Chinese people, it originated in Wuhan, China. And the Chinese Communist govt covered up, obfuscated, and silenced people for a month. What we are dealing with now is a direct result of actions (or inaction) taken by the Chinese communist govt. The world should be constantly reminded of that.

You forgot the Ebola Sudan strain


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[kalm]

I hope you’re right! And that you can gloat about the over action 18 months from now....


With the comfort of not ever understanding what happened.

You have some special insight about what is happening? Please enlighten us all.

Nothing that isn’t available elsewhere. Just a healthy degree of skepticism, trying to strip the emotions out of it by restricting political sources and feelings.

EG: The Spanish Flu probably should have been named the Kansas Flu.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC340389/

But I get it...it’s more important to defend Trump not simply calling it Covid-19 just in case he’s right.

[kalm]

I hope you’re right! And that you can gloat about the over action 18 months from now....


With the comfort of not ever understanding what happened.

You have some special insight about what is happening? Please enlighten us all.

Here’s some more info from a buddy who’s really good at this stuff. Take it with a grain of salt like everything else but he has been spot on with everything happening so far.

Friends... I have been doing some data analytics of the number of COVID-19 Cases because the way the Media is presenting the facts of the situation is morally correct, yet is factually, shall we say off kilter, they are using broad brush descriptions like the United States is 11 Days away from being Italy, well I can tell you by looking at the Data that is factually a gross over statement and a gross understatement, and it all depends on where you live. The media is comparing absolute numbers of cases and creating epidemiological curves, this is a bad use of statistics as it does not account for population or regional density. Leaving these factors our skews the data. Part of my reason for doing this is to see if we, in Washington are Flattening the Curve, from my review of the data, I think we are, however, other places, like New York City is on Fire, and will effectively be on par with Italy sometime tomorrow, if they aren't already. I'm not going to share all the statistics, Ive pulled together, but I am going to share a key one - per capita number of cases per 1,000,000 of population, this makes it a closer apples to apples comparison by location, so here are my location numbers so you can get a sense. This is as of today:

Italy 777
New York City 613
Spain 461
Puget Sound Metro 322
Washington State 213
United States of America 59

To get a handle on whether a curve is flattening or not, one needs to look at percentage growth of cases over time. Is that trend line accelerating, decelerating or changing. My small sample size so far suggests WA State is decelerating, which is probably why Governor Inslee did not order a shelter in place today, but New York City is rapidly accelerating, like unrestrained wild fire that is going to make Italy and Spain look quaint in comparison. Over the next few days, Im going to expand my data sets and include California. If people are interested Ill figure out an efficient way to share more of this so you can see it. Please let me know.

[93henfan]

Yankees tickets might finally be affordable.

[Winterborn]

You have some special insight about what is happening? Please enlighten us all.

Here’s some more info from a buddy who’s really good at this stuff. Take it with a grain of salt like everything else but he has been spot on with everything happening so far.

Friends... I have been doing some data analytics of the number of COVID-19 Cases because the way the Media is presenting the facts of the situation is morally correct, yet is factually, shall we say off kilter, they are using broad brush descriptions like the United States is 11 Days away from being Italy, well I can tell you by looking at the Data that is factually a gross over statement and a gross understatement, and it all depends on where you live. The media is comparing absolute numbers of cases and creating epidemiological curves, this is a bad use of statistics as it does not account for population or regional density. Leaving these factors our skews the data. Part of my reason for doing this is to see if we, in Washington are Flattening the Curve, from my review of the data, I think we are, however, other places, like New York City is on Fire, and will effectively be on par with Italy sometime tomorrow, if they aren't already. I'm not going to share all the statistics, Ive pulled together, but I am going to share a key one - per capita number of cases per 1,000,000 of population, this makes it a closer apples to apples comparison by location, so here are my location numbers so you can get a sense. This is as of today:

Italy 777
New York City 613
Spain 461
Puget Sound Metro 322
Washington State 213
United States of America 59

To get a handle on whether a curve is flattening or not, one needs to look at percentage growth of cases over time. Is that trend line accelerating, decelerating or changing. My small sample size so far suggests WA State is decelerating, which is probably why Governor Inslee did not order a shelter in place today, but New York City is rapidly accelerating, like unrestrained wild fire that is going to make Italy and Spain look quaint in comparison. Over the next few days, Im going to expand my data sets and include California. If people are interested Ill figure out an efficient way to share more of this so you can see it. Please let me know.

New York always just has to be better than anyone else.....

Google Docs is a good way of sharing spreadsheets and information.

[Gil Dobie]

Pickup from our favorite local eating establishment last evening. Lots of customers waiting in their cars for orders. Left them a tip like I dined there. Drove by another local place on the way home. They had a big sign saying they take pickup orders, but no customers. Tough to see that. Burger King next to them, no customers. Not a lot of places will survive this.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

We’re sacrificing the next 10 years of this country’s economic future (and the future of millions and millions of Americans in the process) for the sake of a flu season. Brilliant.

So in your world.....do we burn the bodies in the streets?

How long do a couple hundred bodies burn?

7 mins?

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[Winterborn]

Pickup from our favorite local eating establishment last evening. Lots of customers waiting in their cars for orders. Left them a tip like I dined there. Drove by another local place on the way home. They had a big sign saying they take pickup orders, but no customers. Tough to see that. Burger King next to them, no customers. Not a lot of places will survive this.

I think some people are a bit confused by them closing the restaurants and not realizing that it is for dine-in only (at least it is in my area).

If I was a betting man I am guessing that on a more national scope there will be some hostile mergers and other acquisitions taking place.

[Gil Dobie]

So in your world.....do we burn the bodies in the streets?

How long do a couple hundred bodies burn?

7 mins?

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How many bodies did the Chinese government, where this originated, burn to cover-up COVID-19?

[kalm]

This is a very informative breakdown of what needs to happen. Best I’ve seen yet.

Executive summary:

Hard ass caution now and for a few weeks leads to normalcy MUCH quicker.

[93henfan]

Motherfuckers from NJ and NY are trying to kill us here in Slower DE.

https://www.capegazette.com/article/sch ... ome/199810

[∞∞∞]

U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while President Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread of the pathogen, according to U.S. officials familiar with spy agency reporting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html

Trump's legacy is forever this. Can't wait to be spitting on his grave one day.

[93henfan]

U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while President Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread of the pathogen, according to U.S. officials familiar with spy agency reporting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html

Trump's legacy is forever this. Can't wait to be spitting on his grave one day.

Or his legacy could be getting us out of this. Time will tell.

12,469 Americans died from H1N1 on Obama's watch and I don't believe that's his legacy.

[93henfan]

By the way, this thing is just getting going in Mexico. That'll be fun to watch, especially when they're bringing it back into our country illegally in the middle of the night long after we flatten our curve.

Also, about two million cars sold in the US each year are made in Mexico.

[93henfan]

Motherfuckers from NJ and NY are trying to kill us here in Slower DE.

https://www.capegazette.com/article/sch ... ome/199810

Piling on my previous post...

https://www.delaware-surf-fishing.com/s ... dUbS5U2ppA

A Porsche and a BMW (with student driver sticker and temp tags - thanks for the car daddy) get stuck trying to drive on the powder sand beaches, which isn't allowed here.

We are surrounded by fucking idiots on this here peninsula/island. Time to close the bridges.

[CAA Flagship]

-West Nile Virus (West Nile, Uganda)
-Guinea Worm (Guinea, Africa)
-German Measles (Rubella)
-Spanish Flu
-Zaire Ebola virus
-Ross River Fever (New South Wales, Australia)
-Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever (Omsk, Russia)
-Marburg virus (Marburg, Germany)
-Lassa, Fever (Lassa, Nigeria)
-La Crosse Encephalitis (La Crosse, Wisconsin)
-St. Louis Encephalitis
-Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever
-Lyme Disease- Lyme Connecticut
-MERS-coronavirus (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) (camel flu)
But call COVID the Wuhan, or Chinese virus- RACIST! RACIST!

Give me a break. We've been naming diseases by countries or regions for hundreds of years, but when Trump does it, its racist because Orange Man Bad. If a virus originated in America, and the US govt covered it up for a month, eventually causing a worldwide pandemic, does anyone doubt the whole world would be calling it the “American Virus”?

While this virus doesn’t have anything to do with most of the Chinese people, it originated in Wuhan, China. And the Chinese Communist govt covered up, obfuscated, and silenced people for a month. What we are dealing with now is a direct result of actions (or inaction) taken by the Chinese communist govt. The world should be constantly reminded of that.

You forgot the Ebola Sudan strain


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Don't forget the Yugo

[AshevilleApp]

Motherfuckers from NJ and NY are trying to kill us here in Slower DE.

https://www.capegazette.com/article/sch ... ome/199810

Dare County, NC, won't allow visitors in right now. I believe second home owners are allowed though.

[93henfan]

This is Rehoboth Beach.....

yesterday. Fucking IDIOTS. Carney should be impeached immediately. Stupid Democrats.


https://www.delaware-surf-fishing.com/s ... dUbS5U2ppA

[CAA Flagship]

Here’s some more info from a buddy who’s really good at this stuff. Take it with a grain of salt like everything else but he has been spot on with everything happening so far.

Friends... I have been doing some data analytics of the number of COVID-19 Cases because the way the Media is presenting the facts of the situation is morally correct, yet is factually, shall we say off kilter, they are using broad brush descriptions like the United States is 11 Days away from being Italy, well I can tell you by looking at the Data that is factually a gross over statement and a gross understatement, and it all depends on where you live. The media is comparing absolute numbers of cases and creating epidemiological curves, this is a bad use of statistics as it does not account for population or regional density. Leaving these factors our skews the data. Part of my reason for doing this is to see if we, in Washington are Flattening the Curve, from my review of the data, I think we are, however, other places, like New York City is on Fire, and will effectively be on par with Italy sometime tomorrow, if they aren't already. I'm not going to share all the statistics, Ive pulled together, but I am going to share a key one - per capita number of cases per 1,000,000 of population, this makes it a closer apples to apples comparison by location, so here are my location numbers so you can get a sense. This is as of today:

Italy 777
New York City 613
Spain 461
Puget Sound Metro 322
Washington State 213
United States of America 59

To get a handle on whether a curve is flattening or not, one needs to look at percentage growth of cases over time. Is that trend line accelerating, decelerating or changing. My small sample size so far suggests WA State is decelerating, which is probably why Governor Inslee did not order a shelter in place today, but New York City is rapidly accelerating, like unrestrained wild fire that is going to make Italy and Spain look quaint in comparison. Over the next few days, Im going to expand my data sets and include California. If people are interested Ill figure out an efficient way to share more of this so you can see it. Please let me know.

All worthless stats. Unless the level of testing is the same, comparisons based on "cases" are pointless.

[kalm]

Here’s some more info from a buddy who’s really good at this stuff. Take it with a grain of salt like everything else but he has been spot on with everything happening so far.

Friends... I have been doing some data analytics of the number of COVID-19 Cases because the way the Media is presenting the facts of the situation is morally correct, yet is factually, shall we say off kilter, they are using broad brush descriptions like the United States is 11 Days away from being Italy, well I can tell you by looking at the Data that is factually a gross over statement and a gross understatement, and it all depends on where you live. The media is comparing absolute numbers of cases and creating epidemiological curves, this is a bad use of statistics as it does not account for population or regional density. Leaving these factors our skews the data. Part of my reason for doing this is to see if we, in Washington are Flattening the Curve, from my review of the data, I think we are, however, other places, like New York City is on Fire, and will effectively be on par with Italy sometime tomorrow, if they aren't already. I'm not going to share all the statistics, Ive pulled together, but I am going to share a key one - per capita number of cases per 1,000,000 of population, this makes it a closer apples to apples comparison by location, so here are my location numbers so you can get a sense. This is as of today:

Italy 777
New York City 613
Spain 461
Puget Sound Metro 322
Washington State 213
United States of America 59

To get a handle on whether a curve is flattening or not, one needs to look at percentage growth of cases over time. Is that trend line accelerating, decelerating or changing. My small sample size so far suggests WA State is decelerating, which is probably why Governor Inslee did not order a shelter in place today, but New York City is rapidly accelerating, like unrestrained wild fire that is going to make Italy and Spain look quaint in comparison. Over the next few days, Im going to expand my data sets and include California. If people are interested Ill figure out an efficient way to share more of this so you can see it. Please let me know.

All worthless stats. Unless the level of testing is the same, comparisons based on "cases" are pointless.

That’s silly. All true data has worth. That’s not the same as the level and how you apply it. You raise a good point. Why don’t you be useful in your morning pajamas and research testing levels in the comparison?

Thanks!

[kalm]

You forgot the Ebola Sudan strain


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Don't forget the Yugo

That’s a wagon...or maybe a fastback.

[AZGrizFan]

All worthless stats. Unless the level of testing is the same, comparisons based on "cases" are pointless.

That’s silly. All true data has worth. That’s not the same as the level and how you apply it. You raise a good point. Why don’t you be useful in your morning pajamas and research testing levels in the comparison?

Thanks!

There’s zero cases at my house.

[SDHornet]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html

Trump's legacy is forever this. Can't wait to be spitting on his grave one day.

Or his legacy could be getting us out of this. Time will tell.

12,469 Americans died from H1N1 on Obama's watch and I don't believe that's his legacy.

This. Funny how the left forgets this little tidbit. Also funny how they forget how the msm bashed Trump over his early actions against this Chinese virus...and yet now multiple leftist Governors are giving Trump some credit. But Orange Man Bad though.