2024 Primary

[BDKJMU]

But your ok then with the other stuff you didn’t respond to: allowing adolescents to be given puberty blockers and have genitial mutilation performed on them, and allowing men to play womens’ sports..

Since you have DDS apparently you are for classroom instruction by schools on sexual orientation & gender identity for kindergarten theough 3rd graders (5-8 year olds) because that’s what the Desantis backed Parental Rights in Education bill (what the left calls ‘Don’t Sat Gay’) prohibits.

I have more faith in parents and medical professionals making healthcare decisions than I do in mullah deconkis, legislators, faceless bureaucrats or moms for fascism.

You’re cherry picking from the oxymoronically named Parental Rights in Education bill. What all does it prohibit?

Letting parents raise their children only matters to the zealots of the American Taliban when it’s convenient.

_DS was fun for a short time but its become the battle cry of losers who have nothing to refute the arguments made against them.


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So you have faith in parents and so called medical professionals who want to give their children puberty blockers and perform genital mutilation on children, all in the name of parents’ rights and keeping the govt out of our homes. With that line of thinking you would have to be ok with parents beating their kids..

On the flip side you’re fine having the left’s morality forced on young children over their parents’ objection. Why are you against parents rights only when it applies to the right?

The people of Florida overwhelmingly supported the Parental Rights in Education Bill, including a plurality of democrats.
https://www.tampafp.com/poll-finds-a
The people of Florida overwhelmingly support Desantis’s agenda, as evidenced by his 20 landslide re-election. Why are you against voters deciding?

And now you have labeled the majority of Florida voters as the Taliban because they voted for Desantis..

[SeattleGriz]

That has what to do with DeSantis beating the shit out of Newsom?

Houndie putting his edumacation to work.

You're talking about some parallel universe.

De Santis like most little guys is touchy about his lack of stature and doesn't want the optics of of standing next to Nikki and looking up at her during a debate so he borrowed from Trump and wears lifts. Trump is barely 6ft and needs the high heels to keep him out of the morbidly obese category at his annual checkup. (Instead of Hail to the Chief the band should bust out with the horn section from Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys when he walks out. )

Trump is 6'3", but once again, you put some effort into your post and that is appreciated.

[UNI88]

I have more faith in parents and medical professionals making healthcare decisions than I do in mullah deconkis, legislators, faceless bureaucrats or moms for fascism.

You’re cherry picking from the oxymoronically named Parental Rights in Education bill. What all does it prohibit?

Letting parents raise their children only matters to the zealots of the American Taliban when it’s convenient.

_DS was fun for a short time but its become the battle cry of losers who have nothing to refute the arguments made against them.

So you have faith in parents and so called medical professionals who want to give their children puberty blockers and perform genital mutilation on children, all in the name of parents’ rights and keeping the govt out of our homes. With that line of thinking you would have to be ok with parents beating their kids..

On the flip side you’re fine having the left’s morality forced on young children over their parents’ objection. Why are you against parents rights only when it applies to the right?

The people of Florida overwhelmingly supported the Parental Rights in Education Bill, including a plurality of democrats.
https://www.tampafp.com/poll-finds-a
The people of Florida overwhelmingly support Desantis’s agenda, as evidenced by his 20 landslide re-election. Why are you against voters deciding?

And now you have labeled the majority of Florida voters as the Taliban because they voted for Desantis..

I trust "so-called" medical professionals more than I trust "so-called" leaders like mullah deconkis. I think the instances where parents and medical professionals will decide to pursue drug and/or surgical treatment will be extremely small and I think that there will be cases where it is appropriate but small-minded and insecure politicians will make it nearly impossible just like they wouldn't allow Kate Cox to get an abortion.

re: the bolded - no, I'm against woke efforts by the right and the left to force their mores on everyone. Read my posts about the 1619 project and critical race theory.

Everyone has a place in this world and should be accepted for who they are. I don't care if they're gay, trans, or something else. They shouldn't feel ostracized by laws or the intentional banning of books about people they can relate to. I believe that bad things happen and that pretending they don't make our children more likely to be victims. Maybe that's why groomers like gym jordan and gaetz are drawn to the Republican Party.

Newsome was elected by the majority of California voters yet you criticize him and his policies. Why are you against the voters' deciding?

I want the voters to decide which means we should get rid of gerrymandering. It empowers the extremes of both parties and impedes moderates from getting nominated and thus elected.

You don't trust the government to regulate guns but you trust it to regulate parents and their children? It's fvcked up to give guns a higher priority than children.

[houndawg]

You're talking about some parallel universe.

De Santis like most little guys is touchy about his lack of stature and doesn't want the optics of of standing next to Nikki and looking up at her during a debate so he borrowed from Trump and wears lifts. Trump is barely 6ft and needs the high heels to keep him out of the morbidly obese category at his annual checkup. (Instead of Hail to the Chief the band should bust out with the horn section from Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys when he walks out. )

Trump is 6'3", but once again, you put some effort into your post and that is appreciated.

Even with lifts he's the same height as Obama.

[BDKJMU]

So you have faith in parents and so called medical professionals who want to give their children puberty blockers and perform genital mutilation on children, all in the name of parents’ rights and keeping the govt out of our homes. With that line of thinking you would have to be ok with parents beating their kids..

On the flip side you’re fine having the left’s morality forced on young children over their parents’ objection. Why are you against parents rights only when it applies to the right?

The people of Florida overwhelmingly supported the Parental Rights in Education Bill, including a plurality of democrats.
https://www.tampafp.com/poll-finds-a
The people of Florida overwhelmingly support Desantis’s agenda, as evidenced by his 20 landslide re-election. Why are you against voters deciding?

And now you have labeled the majority of Florida voters as the Taliban because they voted for Desantis..

I trust "so-called" medical professionals more than I trust "so-called" leaders like mullah deconkis. I think the instances where parents and medical professionals will decide to pursue drug and/or surgical treatment will be extremely small and I think that there will be cases where it is appropriate but small-minded and insecure politicians will make it nearly impossible just like they wouldn't allow Kate Cox to get an abortion.

re: the bolded - no, I'm against woke efforts by the right and the left to force their mores on everyone. Read my posts about the 1619 project and critical race theory.

Everyone has a place in this world and should be accepted for who they are. I don't care if they're gay, trans, or something else. They shouldn't feel ostracized by laws or the intentional banning of books about people they can relate to. I believe that bad things happen and that pretending they don't make our children more likely to be victims. Maybe that's why groomers like gym jordan and gaetz are drawn to the Republican Party.

Newsome was elected by the majority of California voters yet you criticize him and his policies. Why are you against the voters' deciding?

I want the voters to decide which means we should get rid of gerrymandering. It empowers the extremes of both parties and impedes moderates from getting nominated and thus elected.

You don't trust the government to regulate guns but you trust it to regulate parents and their children? It's fvcked up to give guns a higher priority than children.

Lol I never said I was against voters deciding. Just because I ridicule Newsome does ‘t meam I was against the voters deciding. Then I get to make fun of the results of the voters deciding to elect Newsome.

Gerrymandering doesn’t have anything to do with statewide elections.

Now you’re comparing allowing puberty blockers & genital mutilation of children, and what materials are allowed in school and at what age gun, states’ rights issues, to gun rights, which are enshrined in a Constitutional Amendmemt.

[BDKJMU]

[UNI88]

I trust "so-called" medical professionals more than I trust "so-called" leaders like mullah deconkis. I think the instances where parents and medical professionals will decide to pursue drug and/or surgical treatment will be extremely small and I think that there will be cases where it is appropriate but small-minded and insecure politicians will make it nearly impossible just like they wouldn't allow Kate Cox to get an abortion.

re: the bolded - no, I'm against woke efforts by the right and the left to force their mores on everyone. Read my posts about the 1619 project and critical race theory.

Everyone has a place in this world and should be accepted for who they are. I don't care if they're gay, trans, or something else. They shouldn't feel ostracized by laws or the intentional banning of books about people they can relate to. I believe that bad things happen and that pretending they don't make our children more likely to be victims. Maybe that's why groomers like gym jordan and gaetz are drawn to the Republican Party.

Newsome was elected by the majority of California voters yet you criticize him and his policies. Why are you against the voters' deciding?

I want the voters to decide which means we should get rid of gerrymandering. It empowers the extremes of both parties and impedes moderates from getting nominated and thus elected.

You don't trust the government to regulate guns but you trust it to regulate parents and their children? It's fvcked up to give guns a higher priority than children.

Lol I never said I was against voters deciding. Just because I ridicule Newsome does ‘t meam I was against the voters deciding. Then I get to make fun of the results of the voters deciding to elect Newsome.

Gerrymandering doesn’t have anything to do with statewide elections.

Now you’re comparing allowing puberty blockers & genital mutilation of children, and what materials are allowed in school and at what age gun, states’ rights issues, to gun rights, which are enshrined in a Constitutional Amendmemt.

Cheery pick, dodge, and deflect.

You’re the one who brought up deconkis’ election, implying that because I disagree with his policies I oppose letting voters decide. The same argument can be made about your criticism of newsome. To paraphrase you “Just because I ridicule mullah deconkis does’t meam I was against the voters deciding.

Gerrymandering might nit impact state elections bur it definitely impacts the makeup of a legislative body and that impacts what laws are passed. Just look at what's happened in Wisconsin.

I’ve been very clear that I trust parents and medical professionals more than I trust mullah deconkis, legislators, bureaucrats and moms for fascism to make medical decisions that are in the best interest of a child. Why are you against parent's rights?


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[BDKJMU]

Lol I never said I was against voters deciding. Just because I ridicule Newsome does ‘t meam I was against the voters deciding. Then I get to make fun of the results of the voters deciding to elect Newsome.

Gerrymandering doesn’t have anything to do with statewide elections.

Now you’re comparing allowing puberty blockers & genital mutilation of children, and what materials are allowed in school and at what age gun, states’ rights issues, to gun rights, which are enshrined in a Constitutional Amendmemt.

Cheery pick, dodge, and deflect.

You’re the one who brought up deconkis’ election, implying that because I disagree with his policies I oppose letting voters decide. The same argument can be made about your criticism of newsome. To paraphrase you “Just because I ridicule mullah deconkis does’t meam I was against the voters deciding.

Gerrymandering might nit impact state elections bur it definitely impacts the makeup of a legislative body and that impacts what laws are passed. Just look at what's happened in Wisconsin.

I’ve been very clear that I trust parents and medical professionals more than I trust mullah deconkis, legislators, bureaucrats and moms for fascism to make medical decisions that are in the best interest of a child. Why are you against parent's rights?


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So if signing:
-a law that prohibits instruction on sexual orientation from kindergarten to third grade.
-a law that bans certain books in schools that are pornographic, violent, or inappropriate for students’ grade levels.
-a law bans puberty blockers & gender mutilation of children
-a law that bans boys/men from playing girls/womens’ sports in schools.
-6 week abortion ban
Makes one a mullah then sign me up (The abortion one I would have done more like 12 weeks). Its clear that with Desantia’s landslide re-election, the majority of Florida voters, including a majority of independents, are for Desantis’s agenda.

Newsflash not all so called medical professionals should be trusted. Covid was a glaring example of that. Its not in the best interest of a child to give them puberty blockers and/or perform genital mutilation ever. Why do you want to allow puberty blockers and genital mutilation of children even if rare? Do parents’ rights reign supreme? Should parents’ have the right to beat their children?

[UNI88]

Cheery pick, dodge, and deflect.

You’re the one who brought up deconkis’ election, implying that because I disagree with his policies I oppose letting voters decide. The same argument can be made about your criticism of newsome. To paraphrase you “Just because I ridicule mullah deconkis does’t meam I was against the voters deciding.

Gerrymandering might nit impact state elections bur it definitely impacts the makeup of a legislative body and that impacts what laws are passed. Just look at what's happened in Wisconsin.

I’ve been very clear that I trust parents and medical professionals more than I trust mullah deconkis, legislators, bureaucrats and moms for fascism to make medical decisions that are in the best interest of a child. Why are you against parent's rights?


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So if signing:
-a law that prohibits instruction on sexual orientation from kindergarten to third grade.
-a law that bans certain books in schools that are pornographic, violent, or inappropriate for students’ grade levels.
-a law bans puberty blockers & gender mutilation of children
-a law that bans boys/men from playing girls/womens’ sports in schools.
-6 week abortion ban
Makes one a mullah then sign me up (The abortion one I would have done more like 12 weeks). Its clear that with Desantia’s landslide re-election, the majority of Florida voters, including a majority of independents, are for Desantis’s agenda.

Newsflash not all so called medical professionals should be trusted. Covid was a glaring example of that. Its not in the best interest of a child to give them puberty blockers and/or perform genital mutilation ever. Why do you want to allow puberty blockers and genital mutilation of children even if rare? Do parents’ rights reign supreme? Should parents’ have the right to beat their children?

Trump hits Ohio governor over veto on proposed gender-affirming health care ban

“These are truly complex issues, and reasonable people draw vastly different conclusions,” DeWine said during a press conference on Friday. “This bill would impact a very small number of Ohio’s children, but for those children who face gender dysphoria, and for their families, the consequences of this could not be more profound.”

“Ultimately, I believe this is about protecting human life,” DeWine added. “Many parents have told me that their child would not have survived — would be dead today — if they had not received the treatment they received from one of Ohio’s children’s hospitals.”

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[UNI88]

A fraying coalition: Black, Hispanic, young voters abandon Biden as election year begins

President Joe Biden heads into the election year showing alarming weakness among stalwarts of the Democratic base, with Donald Trump leading among Hispanic voters and young people. One in 5 Black voters now say they'll support a third-party candidate in November.

biden is a boat anchor that could drag down the Democratic Party in the 2024 elections.

[BDKJMU]

So if signing:
-a law that prohibits instruction on sexual orientation from kindergarten to third grade.
-a law that bans certain books in schools that are pornographic, violent, or inappropriate for students’ grade levels.
-a law bans puberty blockers & gender mutilation of children
-a law that bans boys/men from playing girls/womens’ sports in schools.
-6 week abortion ban
Makes one a mullah then sign me up (The abortion one I would have done more like 12 weeks). Its clear that with Desantia’s landslide re-election, the majority of Florida voters, including a majority of independents, are for Desantis’s agenda.

Newsflash not all so called medical professionals should be trusted. Covid was a glaring example of that. Its not in the best interest of a child to give them puberty blockers and/or perform genital mutilation ever. Why do you want to allow puberty blockers and genital mutilation of children even if rare? Do parents’ rights reign supreme? Should parents’ have the right to beat their children?

Trump hits Ohio governor over veto on proposed gender-affirming health care ban

“These are truly complex issues, and reasonable people draw vastly different conclusions,” DeWine said during a press conference on Friday. “This bill would impact a very small number of Ohio’s children, but for those children who face gender dysphoria, and for their families, the consequences of this could not be more profound.”

“Ultimately, I believe this is about protecting human life,” DeWine added. “Many parents have told me that their child would not have survived — would be dead today — if they had not received the treatment they received from one of Ohio’s children’s hospitals.”

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Is he referring to just puberty blockers and genital mutilation treatments, or is he including lesser treatments of minors in that statement that wouldn’t be banned by the bill?

How many/what % of those children who get irreversible puberty blockers and gender mutilation later regret it and kill themselves, who would otherwise be alive today? Yeah, I know, this is only a recent thing with children so probably not enough data to say.

And he also vetoed probibiting mem from playing womens’ sports. You’re either for womens’ sports, or you’re for allowing mem to play womens’ sports. You can’t be both.

Apparently this bill passed with a. eto proof majority, so we’ll see if Deeine’s veto gets overridden.

[kalm]

A fraying coalition: Black, Hispanic, young voters abandon Biden as election year begins

President Joe Biden heads into the election year showing alarming weakness among stalwarts of the Democratic base, with Donald Trump leading among Hispanic voters and young people. One in 5 Black voters now say they'll support a third-party candidate in November.

biden is a boat anchor that could drag down the Democratic Party in the 2024 elections.

The young voter numbers are shocking. But as the article implies all the numbers will move when it’s a two person race.

Still, I’d agree that Biden is an anchor and he’s not done much yet to promote himself.

There will also be a skirmish among his DNC establishment handlers and the few progressives who might get his ear.

And if/when a “RINO” were to replace Trump it gets even worse for Biden.

[UNI88]

A fraying coalition: Black, Hispanic, young voters abandon Biden as election year begins

biden is a boat anchor that could drag down the Democratic Party in the 2024 elections.

The young voter numbers are shocking. But as the article implies all the numbers will move when it’s a two person race.

Still, I’d agree that Biden is an anchor and he’s not done much yet to promote himself.

There will also be a skirmish among his DNC establishment handlers and the few progressives who might get his ear.

And if/when a “RINO” were to replace Trump it gets even worse for Biden.

trump/biden is a toss up while Nikki Haley crushes biden.

[houndawg]

The young voter numbers are shocking. But as the article implies all the numbers will move when it’s a two person race.

Still, I’d agree that Biden is an anchor and he’s not done much yet to promote himself.

There will also be a skirmish among his DNC establishment handlers and the few progressives who might get his ear.

And if/when a “RINO” were to replace Trump it gets even worse for Biden.

trump/biden is a toss up while Nikki Haley crushes biden.

Anyone crushes Biden except trump - I doubt the Democrats have any interest in kicking him off the ballot. If SCOTUS rules for Colorado and Maine it looks like rain for the Democrats. We could see the House, Senate, and White House all change hands

[Caribbean Hen]

A fraying coalition: Black, Hispanic, young voters abandon Biden as election year begins



biden is a boat anchor that could drag down the Democratic Party in the 2024 elections.

The young voter numbers are shocking. But as the article implies all the numbers will move when it’s a two person race.

Still, I’d agree that Biden is an anchor and he’s not done much yet to promote himself.

There will also be a skirmish among his DNC establishment handlers and the few progressives who might get his ear.

And if/when a “RINO” were to replace Trump it gets even worse for Biden.

Why?

You would prefer they stay dumb?

[houndawg]

A fraying coalition: Black, Hispanic, young voters abandon Biden as election year begins



biden is a boat anchor that could drag down the Democratic Party in the 2024 elections.

The young voter numbers are shocking. But as the article implies all the numbers will move when it’s a two person race.

Still, I’d agree that Biden is an anchor and he’s not done much yet to promote himself.

There will also be a skirmish among his DNC establishment handlers and the few progressives who might get his ear.

And if/when a “RINO” were to replace Trump it gets even worse for Biden.

They're young, they'll have plenty of time to repent and regret

[Caribbean Hen]

STUART VARNEY: The president returns from his Caribbean vacation today. Who is going to be the unlucky guy who delivers the bad news?

The latest poll numbers are terrible. With 11 months to the election, Biden is losing support among key constituents. The people who put him in the White House are turning on him.


In 2020, Biden carried 87% of the Black vote. Now he’s down to 63%.

In 2020, he took 65% of the Hispanic vote. Now he’s down to 34%.

[GannonFan]

STUART VARNEY: The president returns from his Caribbean vacation today. Who is going to be the unlucky guy who delivers the bad news?

The latest poll numbers are terrible. With 11 months to the election, Biden is losing support among key constituents. The people who put him in the White House are turning on him.


In 2020, Biden carried 87% of the Black vote. Now he’s down to 63%.

In 2020, he took 65% of the Hispanic vote. Now he’s down to 34%.

I don't see anyway that those numbers hold up - no way does the Democratic nominee almost split the Black vote nor does the nominee not only lose, but crushingly lose the Hispanic vote. I know voting patterns, especially among minorities, are far more fluid than the Democrats would like, but I don't see them changing that significantly in 2024, especially towards Trump of all people.

[BDKJMU]

STUART VARNEY: The president returns from his Caribbean vacation today. Who is going to be the unlucky guy who delivers the bad news?

The latest poll numbers are terrible. With 11 months to the election, Biden is losing support among key constituents. The people who put him in the White House are turning on him.


In 2020, Biden carried 87% of the Black vote. Now he’s down to 63%.

In 2020, he took 65% of the Hispanic vote. Now he’s down to 34%.

I don't see anyway that those numbers hold up - no way does the Democratic nominee almost split the Black vote nor does the nominee not only lose, but crushingly lose the Hispanic vote. I know voting patterns, especially among minorities, are far more fluid than the Democrats would like, but I don't see them changing that significantly in 2024, especially towards Trump of all people.

While you are correct those numbers don’t hold up, IF its Bidem v Trump, Trump will gain by multiple percentage points in both groups over his 2020 #s. Below says 2020 Latino vote was 65-32 and black vote 87-12
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2020

[Caribbean Hen]

I don't see anyway that those numbers hold up - no way does the Democratic nominee almost split the Black vote nor does the nominee not only lose, but crushingly lose the Hispanic vote. I know voting patterns, especially among minorities, are far more fluid than the Democrats would like, but I don't see them changing that significantly in 2024, especially towards Trump of all people.

While you are correct those numbers don’t hold up, IF its Bidem v Trump, Trump will gain by multiple percentage points in both groups over his 2020 #s. Below says 2020 Latino vote was 65-32 and black vote 87-12
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2020

If they could bring back Ronald Reagan via AI, he wins in a landslide

[houndawg]

STUART VARNEY: The president returns from his Caribbean vacation today. Who is going to be the unlucky guy who delivers the bad news?

The latest poll numbers are terrible. With 11 months to the election, Biden is losing support among key constituents. The people who put him in the White House are turning on him.


In 2020, Biden carried 87% of the Black vote. Now he’s down to 63%.

In 2020, he took 65% of the Hispanic vote. Now he’s down to 34%.

You don't seem to understand how long 11 months is in American politics.

[houndawg]

I don't see anyway that those numbers hold up - no way does the Democratic nominee almost split the Black vote nor does the nominee not only lose, but crushingly lose the Hispanic vote. I know voting patterns, especially among minorities, are far more fluid than the Democrats would like, but I don't see them changing that significantly in 2024, especially towards Trump of all people.

While you are correct those numbers don’t hold up, IF its Bidem v Trump, Trump will gain by multiple percentage points in both groups over his 2020 #s. Below says 2020 Latino vote was 65-32 and black vote 87-12
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2020

...depending on how many percentage points "'multiple" is. Black and Latino numbers are ameliorated by gerrymandering so their contribution to the popular vote may not add comensurately to the electoral vote. They aren't going to swing big to trump but they might stay home

[houndawg]

I don't see anyway that those numbers hold up - no way does the Democratic nominee almost split the Black vote nor does the nominee not only lose, but crushingly lose the Hispanic vote. I know voting patterns, especially among minorities, are far more fluid than the Democrats would like, but I don't see them changing that significantly in 2024, especially towards Trump of all people.

While you are correct those numbers don’t hold up, IF its Bidem v Trump, Trump will gain by multiple percentage points in both groups over his 2020 #s. Below says 2020 Latino vote was 65-32 and black vote 87-12
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2020

What does BD say the numbers will be?

[UNI88]

While you are correct those numbers don’t hold up, IF its Bidem v Trump, Trump will gain by multiple percentage points in both groups over his 2020 #s. Below says 2020 Latino vote was 65-32 and black vote 87-12
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2020

...depending on how many percentage points "'multiple" is. Black and Latino numbers are ameliorated by gerrymandering so their contribution to the popular vote may not add comensurately to the electoral vote. They aren't going to swing big to trump but they might stay home

In Maine and Nebraska.

[houndawg]

STUART VARNEY: The president returns from his Caribbean vacation today. Who is going to be the unlucky guy who delivers the bad news?

The latest poll numbers are terrible. With 11 months to the election, Biden is losing support among key constituents. The people who put him in the White House are turning on him.


In 2020, Biden carried 87% of the Black vote. Now he’s down to 63%.

In 2020, he took 65% of the Hispanic vote. Now he’s down to 34%.

I don't see anyway that those numbers hold up - no way does the Democratic nominee almost split the Black vote nor does the nominee not only lose, but crushingly lose the Hispanic vote. I know voting patterns, especially among minorities, are far more fluid than the Democrats would like, but I don't see them changing that significantly in 2024, especially towards Trump of all people.

Crucial to the Republicans in November is the female vote - I don't think the numbers yet show how pissed off they are about having a right taken away because they're being quiet about it, which should have alarm bells ringing. 40 years of marriage have schooled me to keep my head down when they're quiet. So many Republicans are incels that they will be caught completely by surprise by the female vote.