The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

[93henfan]

My thoughts as well. It doesn’t look good. Especially the “lock down” of information.

Besides the lock down, it's also telling to he wanted to use Giuliani - his personal attorney - for what Trump claims to be a legitimate investigation. This whole thing smells like a crime and cover-up attempt.

That's cool. I just hope they get him to resign quickly, but that's probably wishful thinking on my part.

I'm hoping we can somehow get a decent human being on one of the two major party tickets for next fall, but that is probably pie in the sky. The Dems have nobody credible, and we know Trump is an epic POS.

[AZGrizFan]

We'll see how it shakes down but after Schiff's quotes of the Trump phone call I'm leaning towards:

That's almost perfectly cooked toast.

[SeattleGriz]

I like how Barr is colluding with Trump to cover this up.

The Dems know Barr is trying to get to the bottom of Russia collusion.

Right, Barr is Trumps lackey.

[Skjellyfetti]

I like how Barr is colluding with Trump to cover this up.

The Dems know Barr is trying to get to the bottom of Russia collusion.

Right, Barr is Trumps lackey.

Why doesn't he appoint a special counsel? Or, is that Guiliani, just in an unofficial capacity? Or just Barr doing it in his free time?

[SeattleGriz]

I like how Barr is colluding with Trump to cover this up.

The Dems know Barr is trying to get to the bottom of Russia collusion.

Right, Barr is Trumps lackey.

Why doesn't he appoint a special counsel? Or, is that Guiliani, just in an unofficial capacity? Or just Barr doing it in his free time?

He has Durham investigating for him. The Russia collusion story starts with the hacking of DNC emails.
This is why Crowdstrike is important.

[SeattleGriz]

Sources?

By the way, this is why when Mueller was in front of committees, he had to clarify his statements in his afternoon session, because the judge on Stones case told him to quit saying "the Russians hacked the DNC", because he had no proof.

https://amgreatness.com/2019/06/19/russ ... rike-ruse/

I actually posted this weeks ago in the Russia megathread when Stone brought this up as his latest defense ploy.

I was wrong on this part about Mueller. It was he wasn't allowed to mention Russian companies, but he did have to correct his statement.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/31/ro ... companies/

[Skjellyfetti]

Why doesn't he appoint a special counsel? Or, is that Guiliani, just in an unofficial capacity? Or just Barr doing it in his free time?

He has Durham investigating for him. The Russia collusion story starts with the hacking of DNC emails.
This is why Crowdstrike is important.

Durham isn't a special counsel and lacks one's investigative power. But, why doesn't he make him special counsel instead of having Guiliani working haphazzardly an an unofficial capacity.

[Skjellyfetti]

Just read the nine-page complaint. The whistleblower concedes there’s hearsay but says that he received similar reports from several officials, not just one. Giuliani comes off as the consigliere, while Trump’s role is more opaque. But, hey, lawyers act at the direction of their clients. Not a good document for Trump.

Uh oh. Gannon is going to get pouty about your word choice.

[Ivytalk]

Just read the nine-page complaint. The whistleblower concedes there’s hearsay but says that he received similar reports from several officials, not just one. Giuliani comes off as the consigliere, while Trump’s role is more opaque. But, hey, lawyers act at the direction of their clients. Not a good document for Trump.

Uh oh. Gannon is going to get pouty about your word choice.

Why? Flaggy seemed cool with it!

[∞∞∞]

He has Durham investigating for him. The Russia collusion story starts with the hacking of DNC emails.
This is why Crowdstrike is important.

Durham isn't a special counsel and lacks one's investigative power. But, why doesn't he make him special counsel instead of having Guiliani working haphazzardly an an unofficial capacity.

Giuliani is such an idiot in all of this. The man leaves politics as a well-liked figure. Perhaps he wasn't liked by everyone, but he definitely wasn't hated or anything.

And now, like Trump, he'll be remembered as scum of American history.

[Ivytalk]

Durham isn't a special counsel and lacks one's investigative power. But, why doesn't he make him special counsel instead of having Guiliani working haphazzardly an an unofficial capacity.

Giuliani is such an idiot in all of this. The man leaves politics as a well-liked figure. Perhaps he wasn't liked by everyone, but he definitely wasn't hated or anything.

And now, like Trump, he'll be remembered as scum of American history.

Welp, he’ll be remembered as the anti-John Dean, that’s for sure. I hope Rudy got his money up front, because he’s going to need it to pay his own lawyers.

[Skjellyfetti]

Uh oh. Gannon is going to get pouty about your word choice.

Why? Flaggy seemed cool with it!

Reminded me of this from the last page:

Btw, Schiff called the phone call a "classic mafia shakedown". What mafia movies is that guy watching? They must be the most boringest mafia movies on the planet. If that was a script for a movie I'd change channel.

[GannonFan]

Why? Flaggy seemed cool with it!

Reminded me of this from the last page:

Btw, Schiff called the phone call a "classic mafia shakedown". What mafia movies is that guy watching? They must be the most boringest mafia movies on the planet. If that was a script for a movie I'd change channel.

Still true - if that's a classic mafia shakedown, then we all deserve an apology from Hollywood for making them out to be far more dramatic and powerful than that one was.

As for Ivy's comment, hey, I don't think he checked his WASP privilege at the door when he went to mafia-references regarding Guiliani. But I don't think Italians are a protected class so he's probably in the clear with that.

[CAA Flagship]

Uh oh. Gannon is going to get pouty about your word choice.

Why? Flaggy seemed cool with it!

[SeattleGriz]

He has Durham investigating for him. The Russia collusion story starts with the hacking of DNC emails.
This is why Crowdstrike is important.

Durham isn't a special counsel and lacks one's investigative power. But, why doesn't he make him special counsel instead of having Guiliani working haphazzardly an an unofficial capacity.

Why do we need another special counsel, I believe Durham has grand jury power, doesn't he?

[GannonFan]

Reminded me of this from the last page:

Still true - if that's a classic mafia shakedown, then we all deserve an apology from Hollywood for making them out to be far more dramatic and powerful than that one was.

As for Ivy's comment, hey, I don't think he checked his WASP privilege at the door when he went to mafia-references regarding Guiliani. But I don't think Italians are a protected class so he's probably in the clear with that.

Oh, and with that said, Guiliani was doing a heckuva lot of travelling for a an older guy. Guy was getting around.

[SeattleGriz]

Adam Schiff making up a conversation when he has the transcript! Head of the committee no less.

Fail.

[∞∞∞]

Adam Schiff making up a conversation when he has the transcript! Head of the committee no less.

Fail.

It's a memo; not a transcript. The transcript hasn't been released, and is likely on lockdown, been moved to a different server, or completely destroyed despite all the promises to release it.

Of course the whistle blower had concerns about that too:



Wonder what Trump and company are covering up...

[89Hen]

The transcript hasn't been released, and is likely on lockdown, been moved to a different server, or completely destroyed despite all the promises to release it.

Easily accomplished, just give it to Hilary.

[SeattleGriz]

Adam Schiff making up a conversation when he has the transcript! Head of the committee no less.

Fail.

It's a memo; not a transcript. The transcript hasn't been released, and is likely on lockdown, been moved to a different server, or completely destroyed despite all the promises to release it.

Of course the whistle blower had concerns about that too:



Wonder what Trump and company are covering up...

I get that you are saying the transcript is not the entire conversation, but it is still a transcript.

And why would they move it to a secure server? How many private conversations of Obama's were released? I can now think of three phone calls of Trump with other leaders now having been released.

Those releasing this information I hope are caught and prosecuted. It is not their job to dictate policy. We already have people who's job it is to listen in on the President's calls.

[∞∞∞]

...but it is still a transcript.

It literally says in the memo released yesterday that it's not a transcript.

[Chizzang]

The transcript hasn't been released, and is likely on lockdown, been moved to a different server, or completely destroyed despite all the promises to release it.

Easily accomplished, just give it to Hilary.

Ah...
"but Hilary"



I'm so glad we're still there two and a half years later

[SeattleGriz]

...but it is still a transcript.

It literally says in the memo released yesterday that it's not a transcript.

It said it was a memorandum, but the definition of a transcript is simply to transcribe from one medium to another. I already said I got what you were saying in regards to it not being 100% word for word.

[UNI88]

Easily accomplished, just give it to Hilary.

Ah...
"but Hilary"



I'm so glad we're still there two and a half years later

Isn't the juxtaposition ironic?

[∞∞∞]

It literally says in the memo released yesterday that it's not a transcript.

It said it was a memorandum, but the definition of a transcript is simply to transcribe from one medium to another. I already said I got what you were saying in regards to it not being 100% word for word.

They need to release it, as promised, wherever they're storing it.

The complaint even goes as far as saying the word-for-word transcript is being locked down because White House officials knew the gravity of the situation.