Trump's Secret Documents. The World awaits.

[UNI88]

Can trump declassify a document and immediately give it to the Washington Times? Or does sensitive information such as names of agents, sources and methods need to be redacted? Even if it is legal, it would be unpatriotic to risk the exposure of that kind of information to America's enemies.

But keep up the good fight ...

If you want to understand what happened and where we are in that declassification process, read the link I provided from Just the News. Shouldn't take you more than 5 minutes.

If true, it would appear that trump ordered a "binder full" of documents to be declassified and then released after redactions were made. DoJ never released the documents. We don't know if the redactions were made but I would speculate that trump's copies were unredacted and thus require a special master with security clearance.

But I'm not buying that all of the documents that trump had at MAL were only related to FBI efforts to spy on his campaign. I also don't believe that he only had a binder full of documents at MAL. What about any documents that weren't related to FBI efforts to spy on his campaign?

Having declassified documents with sensitive information that hasn't been redacted yet is clearly a security risk and not something that somebody who really wants to Make America Great Again would do.

[SeattleGriz]

If you want to understand what happened and where we are in that declassification process, read the link I provided from Just the News. Shouldn't take you more than 5 minutes.

If true, it would appear that trump ordered a "binder full" of documents to be declassified and then released after redactions were made. DoJ never released the documents. We don't know if the redactions were made but I would speculate that trump's copies were unredacted and thus require a special master with security clearance.

But I'm not buying that all of the documents that trump had at MAL were only related to FBI efforts to spy on his campaign. I also don't believe that he only had a binder full of documents at MAL. What about any documents that weren't related to FBI efforts to spy on his campaign?

Having declassified documents with sensitive information that hasn't been redacted yet is clearly a security risk and not something that somebody who really wants to Make America Great Again would do.

I don't know any of that either and have only been arguing what I knew about that binder. I've been on a journey since Trump was elected. Can a person really figure out what is going on by only using alternative media? This thread was a way to go on record.

Lastly, if I'm correct, this really isn't about Trump to me. It's about an abusive DOJ/FBI that has lost it way, and in the bigger picture, about the consequences of us allowing the Patriot Act to move forward. Trampling of our 4th amendment rights.

[UNI88]

If true, it would appear that trump ordered a "binder full" of documents to be declassified and then released after redactions were made. DoJ never released the documents. We don't know if the redactions were made but I would speculate that trump's copies were unredacted and thus require a special master with security clearance.

But I'm not buying that all of the documents that trump had at MAL were only related to FBI efforts to spy on his campaign. I also don't believe that he only had a binder full of documents at MAL. What about any documents that weren't related to FBI efforts to spy on his campaign?

Having declassified documents with sensitive information that hasn't been redacted yet is clearly a security risk and not something that somebody who really wants to Make America Great Again would do.

I don't know any of that either and have only been arguing what I knew about that binder. I've been on a journey since Trump was elected. Can a person really figure out what is going on by only using alternative media? This thread was a way to go on record.

Lastly, if I'm correct, this really isn't about Trump to me. It's about an abusive DOJ/FBI that has lost it way, and in the bigger picture, about the consequences of us allowing the Patriot Act to move forward. Trampling of our 4th amendment rights.

Can't it be about both trump and the actions taken by DoJ/FBI?

Both should be investigated. To try to focus on just the DoJ/FBI is a distraction/deflection from trump's wrongdoings.

[SeattleGriz]

I don't know any of that either and have only been arguing what I knew about that binder. I've been on a journey since Trump was elected. Can a person really figure out what is going on by only using alternative media? This thread was a way to go on record.

Lastly, if I'm correct, this really isn't about Trump to me. It's about an abusive DOJ/FBI that has lost it way, and in the bigger picture, about the consequences of us allowing the Patriot Act to move forward. Trampling of our 4th amendment rights.

Can't it be about both trump and the actions taken by DoJ/FBI?

Both should be investigated. To try to focus on just the DoJ/FBI is a distraction/deflection from trump's wrongdoings.

For sure, but my point was that this isn't about me blindly defending Trump. This, to me, is more about if our DOJ/FBI are corrupted.

If Trump is guilty of crimes, that will have to be dealt with in the manner previous similar incidents were handled.

[SDHornet]

Interesting saga, and one I haven't followed as closed as the other witch hunt(s). One thing I don't understand is why can't the President declassify whatever he wants whenever he wants? It's a Constitutional power given to POTUS, no?

I mean what's going to happen if the docs are declassified with sensitive info? A bunch of goat herders gonna overrun Kabul or something?

[UNI88]

Interesting saga, and one I haven't followed as closed as the other witch hunt(s). One thing I don't understand is why can't the President declassify whatever he wants whenever he wants? It's a Constitutional power given to POTUS, no?

I mean what's going to happen if the docs are declassified with sensitive info? A bunch of goat herders gonna overrun Kabul or something?

People whose work benefits the US of A will disappear or die and our interests will suffer. Something that a traitor and not someone who really wants to Make America Great Again would do.

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[SDHornet]

Interesting saga, and one I haven't followed as closed as the other witch hunt(s). One thing I don't understand is why can't the President declassify whatever he wants whenever he wants? It's a Constitutional power given to POTUS, no?

I mean what's going to happen if the docs are declassified with sensitive info? A bunch of goat herders gonna overrun Kabul or something?

People whose work benefits the US of A will disappear or die and our interests will suffer. Something that a traitor and not someone who really wants to Make America Great Again would do.

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Yeah cause that concern has really stopped our foreign policy fuckups in the past.

[UNI88]

People whose work benefits the US of A will disappear or die and our interests will suffer. Something that a traitor and not someone who really wants to Make America Great Again would do.

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Yeah cause that concern has really stopped our foreign policy fuckups in the past.

Past fvckups do not absolve trump of responsibility for putting American interests at risk in the present.

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[SeattleGriz]

Yeah cause that concern has really stopped our foreign policy fuckups in the past.

Past fvckups do not absolve trump of responsibility for putting American interests at risk in the present.

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Can you list out those "interests at risk" for me, because I thought the list of items taken was redacted?

[UNI88]

Past fvckups do not absolve trump of responsibility for putting American interests at risk in the present.

Can you list out those "interests at risk" for me, because I thought the list of items taken was redacted?

The only one who can know those interests is trump's special master.

SG and SD, the Bobbsey Twins of the trump/putin message board defense team.

[SeattleGriz]

Can you list out those "interests at risk" for me, because I thought the list of items taken was redacted?

The only one who can know those interests is trump's special master.

SG and SD, the Bobbsey Twins of the trump/putin message board defense team.

[houndawg]

Shouldn't Durham be sending out subpoenas and indictments and shit? I heard he's got Hillary dead to rights on Benghazi! and Vince Foster

Well we saw what happened with Sussman, so I don't think Durham will produce much, as I expected.

we did?

Why don't you think Durham will produce much?

[houndawg]

Can't it be about both trump and the actions taken by DoJ/FBI?

Both should be investigated. To try to focus on just the DoJ/FBI is a distraction/deflection from trump's wrongdoings.

For sure, but my point was that this isn't about me blindly defending Trump. This, to me, is more about if our DOJ/FBI are corrupted.

If Trump is guilty of crimes, that will have to be dealt with in the manner previous similar incidents were handled.

You must not remeber the Vietnam era very well.

And your red herring has nothing to do with whether or not the previous President has sold Top Secret information to our enemies.

[SeattleGriz]

Well we saw what happened with Sussman, so I don't think Durham will produce much, as I expected.

we did?

Why don't you think Durham will produce much?

Because nothing happens to DC insiders. Its like George Carlin said about it being a big club, and we ain't in it.

When was the last time anyone of substance was truly held accountable?

[SeattleGriz]

For sure, but my point was that this isn't about me blindly defending Trump. This, to me, is more about if our DOJ/FBI are corrupted.

If Trump is guilty of crimes, that will have to be dealt with in the manner previous similar incidents were handled.

You must not remeber the Vietnam era very well.

And your red herring has nothing to do with whether or not the previous President has sold Top Secret information to our enemies.

The selling secrets is silly.

In regards to the DOJ/FBI, you do know they got busted allowing "contractors" to access NSA surveillance tools to perform searches on people/political opponents don't you? Thousands of 702 searches. It's all in previous FISA court, Rosemary Collyer's report.

Exactly what they promised would not happen if we passed the Patriot Act.

[kalm]

we did?

Why don't you think Durham will produce much?

Because nothing happens to DC insiders. Its like George Carlin said about it being a big club, and we ain't in it.

When was the last time anyone of substance was truly held accountable?

You are aware that much of Carlin’s bits were about you, right?

[kalm]

[UNI88]

You must not remember the Vietnam era very well.

And your red herring has nothing to do with whether or not the previous President has sold Top Secret information to our enemies.

The selling secrets is silly.

In regards to the DOJ/FBI, you do know they got busted allowing "contractors" to access NSA surveillance tools to perform searches on people/political opponents don't you? Thousands of 702 searches. It's all in previous FISA court, Rosemary Collyer's report.

Exactly what they promised would not happen if we passed the Patriot Act.

Selling secrets is unlikely but not impossible. I'd put the likelihood in the single digit percentages. trump is greedy and egotistical enough to believe that whatever's good for him is good for the country.

The DoJ/FBI's misdeeds do not absolve trump of his misdeeds. They should both be investigated and resolved but they I'm not going to fall for the attempts to use DoJ/FBI misdeeds to deflect attention away from trump.

I've been an opponent of the Patriot Act from the beginning.

[UNI88]

we did?

Why don't you think Durham will produce much?

Because nothing happens to DC insiders. Its like George Carlin said about it being a big club, and we ain't in it.

When was the last time anyone of substance was truly held accountable?

The club isn't limited to DC insiders. It includes the rich and powerful and trump is a member. This fight isn't a man against the machine, it's an internal battle for control of the spoils.

[kalm]

The selling secrets is silly.

In regards to the DOJ/FBI, you do know they got busted allowing "contractors" to access NSA surveillance tools to perform searches on people/political opponents don't you? Thousands of 702 searches. It's all in previous FISA court, Rosemary Collyer's report.

Exactly what they promised would not happen if we passed the Patriot Act.

Selling secrets is unlikely but not impossible. I'd put the likelihood in the single digit percentages. trump is greedy and egotistical enough to believe that whatever's good for him is good for the country.

The DoJ/FBI's misdeeds do not absolve trump of his misdeeds. They should both be investigated and resolved but they I'm not going to fall for the attempts to use DoJ/FBI misdeeds to deflect attention away from trump.

I've been an opponent of the Patriot Act from the beginning.

Thank you for posting that. I was too. I remember arguing with Ivy over interpretation of papers and personal effects and how he thought cell phones weren’t effected by the 4th amendment.

The good old days…

[SeattleGriz]

Because nothing happens to DC insiders. Its like George Carlin said about it being a big club, and we ain't in it.

When was the last time anyone of substance was truly held accountable?

You are aware that much of Carlin’s bits were about you, right?

No. You.

That was a catchy comeback.

[AZGrizFan]

She doesn’t think anything “demarcates” them? is she being obtuse? Or is she just retarded?

[SeattleGriz]

She doesn’t think anything “demarcates” them? is she being obtuse? Or is she just retarded?

She's retarded. The unredacted list was released a couple hours ago. Trump's office and storage were the two locations the documents were found. Heaven forbid a person not put a file back in the folder, because when you don't do that, it transmits secret data to our enemies.

The worst part is there are people that will believe Trump's files were just laying on the floor.

[UNI88]

She doesn’t think anything “demarcates” them? is she being obtuse? Or is she just retarded?

They might state that they're classified but mixing them up with other documents kind of shows a reckless indifference to the sensitive nature of the documents. It's similar to Hillary's email server in that regard.

They reportedly took his passports because they were in a drawer with classified materials.

[kalm]

She doesn’t think anything “demarcates” them? is she being obtuse? Or is she just retarded?

They might state that they're classified but mixing them up with other documents kind of shows a reckless indifference to the sensitive nature of the documents. It's similar to Hillary's email server in that regard.

They reportedly took his passports because they were in a drawer with classified materials.

But, but, but he declassified them!