2020 Democratic Nomination Process Mega-thread

[kalm]

I liked Jimmy too, but Cenk is no friend of the DNC. Was that Jimmy’s take?

It was over the candidates. Basically TYT is in the tank for all the "progressive" folks, and Dore is a Bernie guy (and he kinda likes Tulsi).

Huh? Bernie and Tulsi are both progressives. TYT loves them some Bernie.

[JohnStOnge]

After months and months of posts defending Donk policies and excusing the manifold shortcomings of Donk POTUS candidates, JSO makes watershed post hedging his bets and laying the groundwork for future CS attacks on the hard-left agenda of President Elizabeth Warren (if it happens). All in the name of preserving what’s left of his tattered “libertarian” street cred. What a profile in courage.

He literally has no idea what he's for and what he's against anymore. He's done so many flips and turns he's just dizzy now.

I have done no flips or turns at all with respect to what I am for or against.

[houndawg]

I’m not afraid of things that can’t happen, which is why I’m not afraid of Yang’s “deal killers”


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Universal healthcare used to be a thing that “couldn’t happen”. Medicare for all used to be a thing that “couldn’t happen”. The list goes on and on. Those things have a way of worming their way into the mainstream and that’s how we’ve gotten where we are.

..couldn't happen here is what you mean. The other nations in the first world have been doing it for decades. We even give Israel money to spend on free healthcare and education. But Americans don't deserve that kind of treatment except for a few hundred of the exceptional ones.

[AZGrizFan]

Universal healthcare used to be a thing that “couldn’t happen”. Medicare for all used to be a thing that “couldn’t happen”. The list goes on and on. Those things have a way of worming their way into the mainstream and that’s how we’ve gotten where we are.

..couldn't happen here is what you mean. The other nations in the first world have been doing it for decades. We even give Israel money to spend on free healthcare and education. But Americans don't deserve that kind of treatment except for a few hundred of the exceptional ones.

Nope. Not as long as we also feel the need to be the world's policeman. THAT'S where our money goes. For better or for worse...

[CAA Flagship]

Bad examples. McD's, BL, and the Cowboys look great on TV. They show well when put in front of the public. Flashy. Desireable. Biden and Warren are the opposite.
Try that again.

What if he changed it to Murica has show a tendency to look at style over substance? Would that work?

OK. Now explain how Warren fits the "style over substance" theory.

[UNI88]

What if he changed it to Murica has show a tendency to look at style over substance? Would that work?

OK. Now explain how Warren fits the "style over substance" theory.

She doesn't to regular shmoes like you and me but maybe she appeals to progressives. A woke northeastern liberal female from a deplorable state who self identifies as a native American. Shehits a few buttons.

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[Ibanez]

If I had to bet now I'd bet they nominate Warren. That disappoints me. I think she has a good chance to beat Trump. Better than 50:50 at this point, I think. But if they do nominate her it'll be a situation in which they could have done much better in terms of putting up a candidate likely to beat Trump. Biden would be a virtual lock if he Democrats had said, "OK, we've identified the best shot and we're going to rally behind him."

Also it means we could end up with Warren as President. That's not as bad as having Trump as President. But it's not good. It's just too bad the Republicans put us in this position by coming up with Trump. No way we'd be looking at a realistic possibility of Elizabeth Warren being President if the Republicans hadn't come up with Trump on their side.

Good God that’s some convoluted logic. Exactly who would we be looking at if Trump weren’t president?

Nobody knows


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[Ibanez]

If I had to bet now I'd bet they nominate Warren. That disappoints me. I think she has a good chance to beat Trump. Better than 50:50 at this point, I think. But if they do nominate her it'll be a situation in which they could have done much better in terms of putting up a candidate likely to beat Trump. Biden would be a virtual lock if he Democrats had said, "OK, we've identified the best shot and we're going to rally behind him."

Also it means we could end up with Warren as President. That's not as bad as having Trump as President. But it's not good. It's just too bad the Republicans put us in this position by coming up with Trump. No way we'd be looking at a realistic possibility of Elizabeth Warren being President if the Republicans hadn't come up with Trump on their side.

After months and months of posts defending Donk policies and excusing the manifold shortcomings of Donk POTUS candidates, JSO makes watershed post hedging his bets and laying the groundwork for future CS attacks on the hard-left agenda of President Elizabeth Warren (if it happens). All in the name of preserving what’s left of his tattered “libertarian” street cred. What a profile in courage.

It’s too late to carve out a plot in the middle. Uni, Gannon and I have that area well covered.



Having said that - I can see myself voting for Yang.


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[Ibanez]

After months and months of posts defending Donk policies and excusing the manifold shortcomings of Donk POTUS candidates, JSO makes watershed post hedging his bets and laying the groundwork for future CS attacks on the hard-left agenda of President Elizabeth Warren (if it happens). All in the name of preserving what’s left of his tattered “libertarian” street cred. What a profile in courage.

He literally has no idea what he's for and what he's against anymore. He's done so many flips and turns he's just dizzy now.

Oh, and Warren isn't winning anything without winning the Black vote and the organized labor vote and I don't see any indication she's going to win that. She's like a weaker Bernie than Bernie was in 2016 and Bernie couldn't crack the Democratic establishment. She won't fare any better. It'll be a slow, long, slog to the nomination, but assuming Biden doesn't have a health scare or (god forbid) dies he's the nominee.

It also doesn’t help that much of the Dem establishment can’t stand her


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[CAA Flagship]

OK. Now explain how Warren fits the "style over substance" theory.

She doesn't to regular shmoes like you and me but maybe she appeals to progressives. A woke northeastern liberal female from a deplorable state who self identifies as a native American. Shehits a few buttons.

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I'm no shmoe. I'm a schmuck. I come from a long line of schmucks.

[93henfan]

[Ivytalk]

This is funny, regardless of your politics!

[AZGrizFan]

This is funny, regardless of your politics!

"tremendous room for growth"....He trolls like a fucking champ.

[css75]

This has to be one of the best troll lines ever.


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[CID1990]

Master troll level 100


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[CID1990]

Master troll level 100


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Trump doesn't do his own tweets.

Really?

So he isn’t an egomaniac?

He’s the all-purpose chamelionic boogeyman, isn’t he?


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[BDKJMU]

Why does it have to be one or the other? BOTH those ideas suck balls and are deal killers. And I HAVE checked out his policy positions...he's articulate, smart, and you're probably right: too bright for the donk sheeple he's trying to woo...but he's got a couple of waaaaay left things that make the little hairs on the back of my neck stand up....no can do.

We all know most of what candidates say won’t happen.

We still have Obamacare.
Mexico isn’t paying for a wall

It’s all pandering and BS.


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But some of those things candidates say do happen- like Obamacare getting enacted. So I’m going to take their word for it. Whether people think it will happen or not.

[Baldy]

Not related to the Donk primary shit show, but just as fucking funny.

[HI54UNI]

The fake Indian has taken the lead over Creepy Joe in Iowa.

Elizabeth Warren leads Register’s Iowa Poll for the first time, besting Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story ... 370015001/

[SDHornet]

It was over the candidates. Basically TYT is in the tank for all the "progressive" folks, and Dore is a Bernie guy (and he kinda likes Tulsi).

Huh? Bernie and Tulsi are both progressives. TYT loves them some Bernie.

I'll take your word for it. I know Jimmy got into it a lot with the other TYT personalities on the platform because he wasn't buying their sh!t. So instead of having a person of differing opinion, they got rid of him.

[SDHornet]

He literally has no idea what he's for and what he's against anymore. He's done so many flips and turns he's just dizzy now.

I have done no flips or turns at all with respect to what I am for or against.

[Ivytalk]

The Cherokoont has taken the lead over Creepy Joe in Iowa.

Elizabeth Warren leads Register’s Iowa Poll for the first time, besting Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story ... 370015001/

FIFY

[BDKJMU]

The Cherokoont has taken the lead over Creepy Joe in Iowa.

Elizabeth Warren leads Register’s Iowa Poll for the first time, besting Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story ... 370015001/

FIFY

Go Pocahontas go!

[Winterborn]

It’s too late to carve out a plot in the middle. Uni, Gannon and I have that area well covered.

Having said that - I can see myself voting for Yang.


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Sitting on the fence between the R and D pastures can lead to a sore crotch. Much better to just go across the road to the free range land.

Yang's platform involves a UBI (Freedom Dividend) and Medicare for All, which are deal breakers for me. Whether or not he is able to implement them is immaterial to me, just the fact that he is proposing them shows me where his mindset and beliefs lie and gives a clue where he is coming from and the type of policy he is willing to support or compromise towards.

[Ivytalk]

It’s too late to carve out a plot in the middle. Uni, Gannon and I have that area well covered.

Having said that - I can see myself voting for Yang.


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Sitting on the fence between the R and D pastures can lead to a sore crotch. Much better to just go across the road to the free range land.

Yang's platform involves a UBI (Freedom Dividend) and Medicare for All, which are deal breakers for me. Whether or not he is able to implement them is immaterial to me, just the fact that he is proposing them shows me where his mindset and beliefs lie and gives a clue where he is coming from and the type of policy he is willing to support or compromise towards.

Same here, Winterborn. Yang is the trendy candidate for the Sensitive Internet Centrists set who want to be perceived as soft-core progressives.

Like Ibanez.