2020 Democratic Nomination Process Mega-thread

[Ivytalk]

Shirley, you don’t think it will be Spartacus!

I don’t. That’s why I said I think it will be Harris or Gap Tooth

Warren-Harris could descend into a cat fight of epic proportions! Warren is the most sanctimonious Donk candidate left standing.

[CID1990]

and it's only a matter of time until the Ukraine debacle kneecaps Biden. Who do you think she brings on her ticket as VP?

Are you implying that Democrat voters have a higher standard than Republican voters..?

I'm being completely serious
I don't think you understand where we are politically right now - if you really think this

Biden was failing well before the Obama era non-scandal that never happened came out

In that debate where he sounded like my uncle with Sundowner’s disease... I knew he would fade in the polls.

He should have run in 2016. Right now it would be an easy matter of hiding his encroaching dementia and he’d win re-election

Because let’s face it... if Democrats covered for the blatant (and much worse) influence peddling by Hillary’s slush fund er I mean foundation... then covering for Biden’s kids’ peccadilloes is a fait accompli ... it is really that easy. A lot like Republicans covering for Trump’s worst tweets

[SDHornet]

and it's only a matter of time until the Ukraine debacle kneecaps Biden. Who do you think she brings on her ticket as VP?

Are you implying that Democrat voters have a higher standard than Republican voters..?

I'm being completely serious
I don't think you understand where we are politically right now - if you really think this

No was hinting more at the other donk candidates using it against him. Surely Tulsi won't hesitate to wield that pipe to Biden's knees if the DNC lets her get on a debate stage with Biden (hint: they won't).

Democratic voters have standards?!? After going "with her"? That's some funny shit right there.

[CAA Flagship]

Fauxahontas Was Caught In Another Lie. This One Is About Her Previous Career As a Teacher.

Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) has repeatedly said she was a special needs school teacher but she was fired because she was "visibly pregnant." It's become part of her typical stomping speech, a part of her so-called "resume."

It turns out Warrens' narrative was nothing but a lie.

During a 2007 interview with Harvard Law Professor Leo Gottlieb, Warren explained the education she obtained. She graduated from high school at 16 and received a full ride scholarship to George Washington University as long as she took part in their debate team. She obtained a degree in Speech Pathology and Audiology. She taught for a year and started graduate school to obtain her certificate so she could receive a permanent position at the school. She ultimately walked away from teaching and went to law school.

"I was married at nineteen and graduated from college after I’d married, and my first year post-graduation I worked in a public school system with the children with disabilities. I did that for a year, and then that summer I didn’t have the education courses, so I was on an 'emergency certificate,' it was called," Warren explained.

"I went back to graduate school and took a couple of courses in education and said, 'I don’t think this is going to work out for me.' I was pregnant with my first baby, so I had a baby and stayed home for a couple of years, and I was really casting about, thinking, 'What am I going to do?' My husband’s view of it was, 'Stay home. We have children, we’ll have more children, you’ll love this.' And I was very restless about it."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbauma ... u-n2554232

[CID1990]

Fauxahontas Was Caught In Another Lie. This One Is About Her Previous Career As a Teacher.

Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) has repeatedly said she was a special needs school teacher but she was fired because she was "visibly pregnant." It's become part of her typical stomping speech, a part of her so-called "resume."

It turns out Warrens' narrative was nothing but a lie.

During a 2007 interview with Harvard Law Professor Leo Gottlieb, Warren explained the education she obtained. She graduated from high school at 16 and received a full ride scholarship to George Washington University as long as she took part in their debate team. She obtained a degree in Speech Pathology and Audiology. She taught for a year and started graduate school to obtain her certificate so she could receive a permanent position at the school. She ultimately walked away from teaching and went to law school.

"I was married at nineteen and graduated from college after I’d married, and my first year post-graduation I worked in a public school system with the children with disabilities. I did that for a year, and then that summer I didn’t have the education courses, so I was on an 'emergency certificate,' it was called," Warren explained.

"I went back to graduate school and took a couple of courses in education and said, 'I don’t think this is going to work out for me.' I was pregnant with my first baby, so I had a baby and stayed home for a couple of years, and I was really casting about, thinking, 'What am I going to do?' My husband’s view of it was, 'Stay home. We have children, we’ll have more children, you’ll love this.' And I was very restless about it."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbauma ... u-n2554232

Meh

If she was running against Romney maybe it would hurt her

We live in an age where low key fabulism looks somewhat honest in comparison

she just a simple liar


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[css75]

Fauxahontas Was Caught In Another Lie. This One Is About Her Previous Career As a Teacher.



https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbauma ... u-n2554232

Meh

If she was running against Romney maybe it would hurt her

We live in an age where low key fabulism looks somewhat honest in comparison

she just a simple liar


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Nah, Romney is just a big a douche as anyone, he is a self centered, arrogant, self righteous jerk.


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[Ivytalk]

Meh

If she was running against Romney maybe it would hurt her

We live in an age where low key fabulism looks somewhat honest in comparison

she just a simple liar


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Nah, Romney is just a big a douche as anyone, he is a self centered, arrogant, self righteous jerk.


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But you voted for him in 2012, right?

[CID1990]

What is it with Presidential favorites lying about everything?

I mean, I get that she's more eloquent than Trump.. so is that the difference between Hitler and Gandhi? Lying with eloquence?

Proven: she lied

https://freebeacon.com/politics/county- ... pregnancy/

[AZGrizFan]

What is it with Presidential favorites lying about everything?

I mean, I get that she's more eloquent than Trump.. so is that the difference between Hitler and Gandhi? Lying with eloquence?

Proven: she lied

https://freebeacon.com/politics/county- ... pregnancy/

Who cares?

She could walk down 5th Avenue & kill someone and I would still vote for her.

And now you know how Trump got elected. Because how YOU feel about Trump right now is how a large percentage of America felt about Hildabeast in 2016.

[CID1990]

Yes Jearf that was pretty much my point

It does kind of shed light on opposition to Trump though

(Hint: it wasn’t about integrity)


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[css75]

Nah, Romney is just a big a douche as anyone, he is a self centered, arrogant, self righteous jerk.


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But you voted for him in 2012, right?

Regrettably, yes, but their was really no choice.


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[JohnStOnge]

Nah, Romney is just a big a douche as anyone, he is a self centered, arrogant, self righteous jerk.

Romney is an honorable man. He is far less self-centered and far less arrogant than Trump is. And he is honorable. Trump is not.

This country would be way better off with Romney as President than it is with Trump as President. Especially when considering the long term.

[CID1990]

Nah, Romney is just a big a douche as anyone, he is a self centered, arrogant, self righteous jerk.

Romney is an honorable man. He is far less self-centered and far less arrogant than Trump is. And he is honorable. Trump is not.

This country would be way better off with Romney as President than it is with Trump as President. Especially when considering the long term.

Well now there I agree with you

Except on China. Romney would get photographed in a Hooters before he'd ever lean on China economically

[UNI88]

Romney is an honorable man. He is far less self-centered and far less arrogant than Trump is. And he is honorable. Trump is not.

This country would be way better off with Romney as President than it is with Trump as President. Especially when considering the long term.

Well now there I agree with you

Except on China. Romney would get photographed in a Hooters drinking a Jack & Coke and smoking a cigarette before he'd ever lean on China economically

FYP

Romney was the most qualified individual to win a major party nomination for POTUS in a long time. There haven't been too many candidates in history with better government and business administration credentials.

[JohnStOnge]

Romney is an honorable man. He is far less self-centered and far less arrogant than Trump is. And he is honorable. Trump is not.

This country would be way better off with Romney as President than it is with Trump as President. Especially when considering the long term.

Well now there I agree with you

Except on China. Romney would get photographed in a Hooters before he'd ever lean on China economically

Leaning on China the way Trump is is a mistake. I know you disagree. But I think my point of view will be vindicated by how things turn out. We shall see.

[Skjellyfetti]

Except on China. Romney would get photographed in a Hooters before he'd ever lean on China economically

No. He would have no problem with "lean[ing] on China economically." He would just do it differently than a unilateral Trade War.

He even proposed a way to lean of China economically as part of his campaign in 2012.

I will create the ‘Reagan Economic Zone,’ a partnership among countries committed to free enterprise and free trade. It will serve as a powerful engine for opening markets to our goods and services, and also a mechanism for confronting nations like China that violate trade rules while free-riding on the international system. I will not stand by while China pursues an economic development policy that relies on the unfair treatment of U.S. companies and the theft of their intellectual property. I have no interest in starting a trade war with China, but I cannot accept our current trade surrender.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/s ... ings-up-if

Like, "Obamacare"... Obama stole his idea for countering China.

You saddled your wagon to Trump's Trade War. Ok. That's great. No very libertarian of you... but, you're entitled to your opinion. But, don't act like it was ever the only option.

[css75]

Nah, Romney is just a big a douche as anyone, he is a self centered, arrogant, self righteous jerk.

Romney is an honorable man. He is far less self-centered and far less arrogant than Trump is. And he is honorable. Trump is not.

This country would be way better off with Romney as President than it is with Trump as President. Especially when considering the long term.

And you call yourself a conservative, that is a joke, Romney is a Dem in GOP clothing.


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[CID1990]

Except on China. Romney would get photographed in a Hooters before he'd ever lean on China economically

No. He would have no problem with "lean[ing] on China economically." He would just do it differently than a unilateral Trade War.

He even proposed a way to lean of China economically as part of his campaign in 2012.

I will create the ‘Reagan Economic Zone,’ a partnership among countries committed to free enterprise and free trade. It will serve as a powerful engine for opening markets to our goods and services, and also a mechanism for confronting nations like China that violate trade rules while free-riding on the international system. I will not stand by while China pursues an economic development policy that relies on the unfair treatment of U.S. companies and the theft of their intellectual property. I have no interest in starting a trade war with China, but I cannot accept our current trade surrender.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/s ... ings-up-if

Like, "Obamacare"... Obama stole his idea for countering China.

You saddled your wagon to Trump's Trade War. Ok. That's great. No very libertarian of you... but, you're entitled to your opinion. But, don't act like it was ever the only option.

Still obsessed with me I see

Here comes your beating

It wasn’t the only option but it is too late for half measures like what Romney proposed. Plus, Romney’s plan doesn’t take into account China’s influence and leverage with industrialized nations outside of the EU. Only we have the juice right now to force China to play nice in monetary policy and protectionist trade.

Romney’s “Reagan Economic Zone” would have consisted of the US, India, Japan, South Korea, and Australia/New Zealand. None of which have cheap labor (except India). Each one is dependent on China servicing their debt, and none of them can sell a significant amount of consumer goods inside China.

Thanks for doing all the useless research on what Romney proposed back in 2012. In the alternate universe where Romney won in 2012 you’d be critical of this plan (because Romney) and you’d be correct like a broken clock.

[UNI88]

Romney is an honorable man. He is far less self-centered and far less arrogant than Trump is. And he is honorable. Trump is not.

This country would be way better off with Romney as President than it is with Trump as President. Especially when considering the long term.

And you call yourself a conservative, that is a joke, Romney is a Dem in GOP clothing.

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No he isn't. He might not be as hardline conservative as you would like but he is not a Dem in GOP clothing. This "if you're not 100% with me than you're against me" crap is baloney. Romney (and Amash) are no more DOnks than Robert Johnson is a Conk. Dissenting opinions and debating ideas on their merits is a good thing.

[JohnStOnge]

What is it with Presidential favorites lying about everything?

I mean, I get that she's more eloquent than Trump.. so is that the difference between Hitler and Gandhi? Lying with eloquence?

Proven: she lied

https://freebeacon.com/politics/county- ... pregnancy/

I don't think we can consider it proven at this point because of the source. At least that is my opinion based on the source i like to use to check sources. Here is what mediabiasfactcheck has to say about the Washington Free Beacon:

Overall, we rate the Washington Free Beacon Right Biased based on story selection that favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to misleading and false claims.

So, to me, this is a situation where one has to consider the possibility that the allegations are true while recognizing that we are dealing with a questionable source. More research is required.

[JohnStOnge]

Here is an article casting a different light on the Warren's claims about being denied due to pregnancy:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... ree-beacon

It mentions the Free Beacon article. The source i use, mediabiasfactcheck, does say Vox has a left bias. But the difference between Vox and the Washington Free Beacon as far as mediabiasfactcheck is concerned is that Vox has a "High" factual reporting rating.

Overall, we rate Vox Left Biased due to wording and story selection that favors the left and High for factual reporting based on only one failed fact check and appropriately issuing a correction to a second.

I think Vox is a more credible source than the Washington Free Beacon is. And this discussion relates to a more general problem: We have a problem at this time with right wing media distributing misinformation. It's not just bias. It's intentional, blatant distortion.

Again: I am a conservative. I think I could legitimately be characterized as a conservative extremist. But this thing with what's going on with the conservative movement right now with lying and misinformation is not acceptable. And it IS going on.

[SDHornet]

No. He would have no problem with "lean[ing] on China economically." He would just do it differently than a unilateral Trade War.

He even proposed a way to lean of China economically as part of his campaign in 2012.



https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/s ... ings-up-if

Like, "Obamacare"... Obama stole his idea for countering China.

You saddled your wagon to Trump's Trade War. Ok. That's great. No very libertarian of you... but, you're entitled to your opinion. But, don't act like it was ever the only option.

Still obsessed with me I see

Here comes your beating

It wasn’t the only option but it is too late for half measures like what Romney proposed. Plus, Romney’s plan doesn’t take into account China’s influence and leverage with industrialized nations outside of the EU. Only we have the juice right now to force China to play nice in monetary policy and protectionist trade.

Romney’s “Reagan Economic Zone” would have consisted of the US, India, Japan, South Korea, and Australia/New Zealand. None of which have cheap labor (except India). Each one is dependent on China servicing their debt, and none of them can sell a significant amount of consumer goods inside China.

Thanks for doing all the useless research on what Romney proposed back in 2012. In the alternate universe where Romney won in 2012 you’d be critical of this plan (because Romney) and you’d be correct like a broken clock.

And another jellybell "Orange Man Bad" narrative bites the dust.

[CID1990]

Here is an article casting a different light on the Warren's claims about being denied due to pregnancy:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... ree-beacon

It mentions the Free Beacon article. The source i use, mediabiasfactcheck, does say Vox has a left bias. But the difference between Vox and the Washington Free Beacon as far as mediabiasfactcheck is concerned is that Vox has a "High" factual reporting rating.

Overall, we rate Vox Left Biased due to wording and story selection that favors the left and High for factual reporting based on only one failed fact check and appropriately issuing a correction to a second.

I think Vox is a more credible source than the Washington Free Beacon is. And this discussion relates to a more general problem: We have a problem at this time with right wing media distributing misinformation. It's not just bias. It's intentional, blatant distortion.

Again: I am a conservative. I think I could legitimately be characterized as a conservative extremist. But this thing with what's going on with the conservative movement right now with lying and misinformation is not acceptable. And it IS going on.

What if she's 1/1100th an eloquent liar, John?

According to your previous scribbling, that still makes her a liar

[Baldy]

Here is an article casting a different light on the Warren's claims about being denied due to pregnancy:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... ree-beacon

It mentions the Free Beacon article. The source i use, mediabiasfactcheck, does say Vox has a left bias. But the difference between Vox and the Washington Free Beacon as far as mediabiasfactcheck is concerned is that Vox has a "High" factual reporting rating.



I think Vox is a more credible source than the Washington Free Beacon is. And this discussion relates to a more general problem: We have a problem at this time with right wing media distributing misinformation. It's not just bias. It's intentional, blatant distortion.

Again: I am a conservative. I think I could legitimately be characterized as a conservative extremist. But this thing with what's going on with the conservative movement right now with lying and misinformation is not acceptable. And it IS going on.

What if she's 1/1100th an eloquent liar, John?

According to your previous scribbling, that still makes her a liar

Liar liar, wigwam on fire.

[∞∞∞]

https://www.salon.com/2019/10/08/elizab ... nths-long/