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Don’t know why NBC amd others aren’t reporting the results by county as is typical in most states, but by ‘township’ .
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-p ... nt-results
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:41 pm Trump wins NH by double digits, DESPITE less than half of the conk primary being conks, with a plurality being indies and donks.


Trump becomes 1st conk since Ford in 1976 to win Iowa and NH in a contested primary, and he does both in landslide fashion.

Haley in her post election speech said “This thing is far from over’. She’s f’ing delusional if she believes that. She should drop out before she’s embarrassed in her home state.
She's cooked. This was her chance.

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This all starts up again for the race 2028 in 3 years (or less) with no Biden, no Trump, and maybe the biggest combined field, wide open primaries ever (think will be 20+ in each primary, irregardless of who Trump’s VP is). If Haley wants to be a frontrunner in 2028, she should suspend her campaign before she gets boatraced in her home state on 2/3...
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:52 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:41 pm Trump wins NH by double digits, DESPITE less than half of the conk primary being conks, with a plurality being indies and donks.


Trump becomes 1st conk since Ford in 1976 to win Iowa and NH in a contested primary, and he does both in landslide fashion.

Haley in her post election speech said “This thing is far from over’. She’s f’ing delusional if she believes that. She should drop out before she’s embarrassed in her home state.
She's cooked. This was her chance.

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We’ll endure. And I’m still not sure it will by Biden as the nominee.
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Interesting points. There are a few reasons why Haley might stick around a bit and see.

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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:17 am This all starts up again for the race 2028 in 3 years (or less) with no Biden, no Trump, and maybe the biggest combined field, wide open primaries ever (think will be 20+ in each primary, irregardless of who Trump’s VP is). If Haley wants to be a frontrunner in 2028, she should suspend her campaign before she gets boatraced in her home state on 2/3...
It seems like it never ends, all the media will talk about is politics.

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kalm wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:22 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:52 pm

She's cooked. This was her chance.

trump vs biden. America is fvcked.
We’ll endure. And I’m still not sure it will by Biden as the nominee.
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kalm wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:57 am Interesting points. There are a few reasons why Haley might stick around a bit and see.

He’s not really an incumbent though. Maybe a 1/2 incumbent at best. When was the last time a POTUS lost relection, then 4 years later was running again? If that ever happened, that would be the primary to compare it to.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:33 am
kalm wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:57 am Interesting points. There are a few reasons why Haley might stick around a bit and see.

He’s not really an incumbent though. Maybe a 1/2 incumbent at best. When was the last time a POTUS lost relection, then 4 years later was running again? If that ever happened, that would be the primary to compare it to.
3/4+ incumbent.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:17 am This all starts up again for the race 2028 in 3 years (or less) with no Biden, no Trump, and maybe the biggest combined field, wide open primaries ever (think will be 20+ in each primary, irregardless of who Trump’s VP is). If Haley wants to be a frontrunner in 2028, she should suspend her campaign before she gets boatraced in her home state on 2/3...
The GOP South Carolina primary isn't on 2/3, that's the Democratic one. The GOP on is on 2/24, a month from now.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:33 am
kalm wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:57 am Interesting points. There are a few reasons why Haley might stick around a bit and see.

He’s not really an incumbent though. Maybe a 1/2 incumbent at best. When was the last time a POTUS lost relection, then 4 years later was running again? If that ever happened, that would be the primary to compare it to.
Also worth noting…Trump won Republicans by 49 points but Haley won indies by 22.
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I think Haley stays in the race through her state, or at least really close to it. I don't think she has a prayer of winning there - it's a way different state than when she was governor and Trump is bigly popular there. This primary is over - Trump is going to be the nominee.

As for Haley through, the advantages of remaining in the race and visible are a few things. 1) she's setting herself up to be the top contender in the 2028 election. Her main competition, DeSantis, already bowed out. There are certainly going to be other contenders popping up between now and then, but the longer she's in this thing the more press she gets and the better head start for 2028. 2) Trump is no spring chicken. We get daily reports from houndie over which STD is afflicting Trump. That aside, there is no guarantee that Trump even makes it to the election in November. If he departs this Earth, there won't be much time for a replacement candidate and if the timing works, then Haley could be that candidate. 3) the numerous court cases are just a mess, it's impossible to decide how they'll impact the race. A conviction or multiple convictions will depend on which cases are involved. But in most cases, the GOP support will just be further entrenched and the independent support will wither. If Trump sees a guaranteed loss in November there's no telling what he might do, including quitting. He's not a particularly stable individual, his petulance could swing in any direction.

As it stands right now, though, it's clear that it's the Trump vs. Biden campaign that a large majority of people did not want to see. It'll be a terrible campaign, we're likely not to see any debates, both will maintain that the country will fall apart if the other one is elected, and with both candidate's health being a primary concern, there's no certainty that either or both make it to November, or to the inauguration in January. Vice President selection will be interesting, although I can't see how the Dems change up Kamala without fear of a massive black voter backlash - they're stuck with her. The GOP will be interesting to say the least.
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:53 am I think Haley stays in the race through her state, or at least really close to it. I don't think she has a prayer of winning there - it's a way different state than when she was governor and Trump is bigly popular there. This primary is over - Trump is going to be the nominee.

As for Haley through, the advantages of remaining in the race and visible are a few things. 1) she's setting herself up to be the top contender in the 2028 election. Her main competition, DeSantis, already bowed out. There are certainly going to be other contenders popping up between now and then, but the longer she's in this thing the more press she gets and the better head start for 2028. 2) Trump is no spring chicken. We get daily reports from houndie over which STD is afflicting Trump. That aside, there is no guarantee that Trump even makes it to the election in November. If he departs this Earth, there won't be much time for a replacement candidate and if the timing works, then Haley could be that candidate. 3) the numerous court cases are just a mess, it's impossible to decide how they'll impact the race. A conviction or multiple convictions will depend on which cases are involved. But in most cases, the GOP support will just be further entrenched and the independent support will wither. If Trump sees a guaranteed loss in November there's no telling what he might do, including quitting. He's not a particularly stable individual, his petulance could swing in any direction.

As it stands right now, though, it's clear that it's the Trump vs. Biden campaign that a large majority of people did not want to see. It'll be a terrible campaign, we're likely not to see any debates, both will maintain that the country will fall apart if the other one is elected, and with both candidate's health being a primary concern, there's no certainty that either or both make it to November, or to the inauguration in January. Vice President selection will be interesting, although I can't see how the Dems change up Kamala without fear of a massive black voter backlash - they're stuck with her. The GOP will be interesting to say the least.


You talkin' about the twice-impeached, four-times indicted, convicted-by-a-jury of sexual abuse, syphilitic-cheater-at-golf, ex-President? :?

If Haley can still be hanging around when he becomes a convicted felon she could pull it off. She has a Koch PAC supporting her
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:41 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:17 am This all starts up again for the race 2028 in 3 years (or less) with no Biden, no Trump, and maybe the biggest combined field, wide open primaries ever (think will be 20+ in each primary, irregardless of who Trump’s VP is). If Haley wants to be a frontrunner in 2028, she should suspend her campaign before she gets boatraced in her home state on 2/3...
The GOP South Carolina primary isn't on 2/3, that's the Democratic one. The GOP on is on 2/24, a month from now.
Copy. That’s what I get for ‘Ducking’ (or whatever ypu call a web search on Duck Duck Go) ‘what is the date of the 2024 SC primary’
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kalm wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:50 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:33 am
He’s not really an incumbent though. Maybe a 1/2 incumbent at best. When was the last time a POTUS lost relection, then 4 years later was running again? If that ever happened, that would be the primary to compare it to.
Also worth noting…Trump won Republicans by 49 points but Haley won indies by 22.
And Biden came in 5th place in single digits in NH in the last comtested donk NH primary..
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houndawg wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:44 pm
GannonFan wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:53 am I think Haley stays in the race through her state, or at least really close to it. I don't think she has a prayer of winning there - it's a way different state than when she was governor and Trump is bigly popular there. This primary is over - Trump is going to be the nominee.

As for Haley through, the advantages of remaining in the race and visible are a few things. 1) she's setting herself up to be the top contender in the 2028 election. Her main competition, DeSantis, already bowed out. There are certainly going to be other contenders popping up between now and then, but the longer she's in this thing the more press she gets and the better head start for 2028. 2) Trump is no spring chicken. We get daily reports from houndie over which STD is afflicting Trump. That aside, there is no guarantee that Trump even makes it to the election in November. If he departs this Earth, there won't be much time for a replacement candidate and if the timing works, then Haley could be that candidate. 3) the numerous court cases are just a mess, it's impossible to decide how they'll impact the race. A conviction or multiple convictions will depend on which cases are involved. But in most cases, the GOP support will just be further entrenched and the independent support will wither. If Trump sees a guaranteed loss in November there's no telling what he might do, including quitting. He's not a particularly stable individual, his petulance could swing in any direction.

As it stands right now, though, it's clear that it's the Trump vs. Biden campaign that a large majority of people did not want to see. It'll be a terrible campaign, we're likely not to see any debates, both will maintain that the country will fall apart if the other one is elected, and with both candidate's health being a primary concern, there's no certainty that either or both make it to November, or to the inauguration in January. Vice President selection will be interesting, although I can't see how the Dems change up Kamala without fear of a massive black voter backlash - they're stuck with her. The GOP will be interesting to say the least.


You talkin' about the twice-impeached, four-times indicted, convicted-by-a-jury of sexual abuse, syphilitic-cheater-at-golf, ex-President? :?

If Haley can still be hanging around when he becomes a convicted felon she could pull it off. She has a Koch PAC supporting her
Wrong.

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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:14 pm
houndawg wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:44 pm


You talkin' about the twice-impeached, four-times indicted, convicted-by-a-jury of sexual abuse, syphilitic-cheater-at-golf, ex-President? :?

If Haley can still be hanging around when he becomes a convicted felon she could pull it off. She has a Koch PAC supporting her
Wrong.

And keep fapping..
A jury didn't find him liable for sexual abuse?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-c ... f9ec83d7db

Which was also clarified by the judge that ruling did in fact mean he was found to have raped her?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... udge-rape/
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clenz wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:09 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:14 pm
Wrong.

And keep fapping..
A jury didn't find him liable for sexual abuse?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-c ... f9ec83d7db

Which was also clarified by the judge that ruling did in fact mean he was found to have raped her?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... udge-rape/
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clenz wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:09 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:14 pm
Wrong.

And keep fapping..
A jury didn't find him liable for sexual abuse?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-c ... f9ec83d7db

Which was also clarified by the judge that ruling did in fact mean he was found to have raped her?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... udge-rape/
We’ve already been through this on here. No a jury didn’t CONVICT him because it wasn’t a criminal trial.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:27 pm
clenz wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:09 pm

A jury didn't find him liable for sexual abuse?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-c ... f9ec83d7db

Which was also clarified by the judge that ruling did in fact mean he was found to have raped her?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... udge-rape/
We've been down this road before. BDKKKaren continues to attempt to nitpick his way around this one.
Sorry, TDS88 doesn’t like facts that get in the way of his OMB narrative..
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Wow if true..

REPORT: Barack Obama Is Telling Joe Biden to Quit the 2024 Race

Earlier this month, we learned that Barack Obama advised Joe Biden on how to beef up his reelection campaign. Now, he appears to have given up all hope for Biden's struggling campaign.

The former president and other allies of Biden's have advised him "to quit the 2024 race to save America and the Democratic Party," according to a report from RadarOnline.

"Insiders snitched that tensions between the two presidents recently exploded after irate Obama rushed to a secret meeting and confronted Biden about his fading chances to fend off surging Republican candidate Donald Trump in the upcoming November election," explains the report.
Incredibly, Joe seems almost oblivious to the lack of excitement about his campaign and cratering approval ratings. Recent polls show a scant 38 percent of American's approve of his performance with a whopping 58 percent holding a negative opinion of his work.

Meanwhile, Trump, 77, has seized a lead in some national polls despite being under indictment on 91 charges and openly declaring he wants to be a dictator.

In desperation, sources said Obama bellowed at bumbling Biden to go on the attack — and make sure trusted aides are constantly by his side on the campaign trail to keep them from committing the disastrous gaffes that have defined his presidency.
"The Obamas are convinced Joe's lost his grip," an insider confided. "He looks more feeble and clueless every day, and they know he's lost the confidence of the public."..

The fact that his Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin went missing for days during prostate cancer treatment only added to Biden's problems as the White House was forced to admit the president was left in the dark. Austin's lack of communication raised shocking accusations that Biden was asleep at the wheel.

"It's frightening on so many levels," a Washington source claimed. "The fact that the president was clueless about a four-day absence of one of the most important members of his cabinet is staggering."

Biden is now the oldest serving president in American history and continues to show his age. In one stunning incident, he forgot what he was doing while placing a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and had to be directed by soldiers on duty. [...]

After the frightening episode, sources say Obama huddled with his former senior adviser and top Democratic strategist David Axelrod, who's been a vocal critic of Biden's ability to do the job.

"Obama is letting Axelrod be his public mouthpiece about Joe's incompetence and declining mental capacities," dished the insider. "Meanwhile, he and Michelle are working behind the scenes to take him out.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:41 am
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clenz wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:09 pm
A jury didn't find him liable for sexual abuse?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-c ... f9ec83d7db

Which was also clarified by the judge that ruling did in fact mean he was found to have raped her?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... udge-rape/
We’ve already been through this on here. No a jury didn’t CONVICT him because it wasn’t a criminal trial.
clenz didn't say a jury convicted him, he said a jury found him liable which is accurate - Jury finds Trump liable for sexual abuse, awards accuser $5M

A jury found trump liable for sexual abuse and the Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is ‘substantially true’ in court dismissal

BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:58 am Sorry, TDS88 doesn’t like facts that get in the way of his OMB narrative..
So yes, you're nitpicking because your raging tDS can't handle trump being criticized.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:41 am
convicted-by-a-jury
clenz wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:09 pm

A jury didn't find him liable for sexual abuse?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-c ... f9ec83d7db

Which was also clarified by the judge that ruling did in fact mean he was found to have raped her?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... udge-rape/
We’ve already been through this on here. No a jury didn’t CONVICT him because it wasn’t a criminal trial.
But everybody, except you, does agree it was rape and that it happened. You may step down
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:58 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:27 pm

We've been down this road before. BDKKKaren continues to attempt to nitpick his way around this one.
Sorry, TDS88 doesn’t like facts that get in the way of his OMB narrative..
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