The Official "Making America Woke Again" Thread

[AZGrizFan]

Trump was right. This wasn't going to stop at the tearing down of confederate statues and statues of 18th-19th century white males..

Founding father James Madison sidelined by woke history in his own home

The globalist billionaire who funded the woke transformation of Thomas Jefferson’s Monticello paid for a similar overhaul of James Madison’s house — where the author of the US Constitution has been shoved into a supporting role, while slavery and racism take center stage.

No American flags fly at Montpelier, Madison’s plantation home in rural Virginia, and not a single display focuses on the life and accomplishments of America’s foremost political philosopher, who created our three-branch federal system of government, wrote the Bill of Rights and the Federalist Papers, and served two terms as president.

Instead, blindsided tourists are hammered by high-tech exhibits about Madison’s slaves and current racial conflicts, thanks to a $10 million grant from left-leaning philanthropist David M. Rubenstein.

Visitors to Montpelier get to see just three rooms in the sprawling mansion. The estate “made Madison the philosopher, farmer, statesman, and enslaver that he was,” the guide said as The Post’s group entered the home — a line she repeated at the end of her spiel.

Outdoors and in the house’s huge basement, dozens of interactive stations seek to draw a direct line between slavery, the Constitution, and the problems of African Americans today.

Hurricane Katrina flooding, the Ferguson riots, incarceration, and more all trace back to slavery, according to a 10-minute multi-screen video.

Another exhibit damns every one of the nation’s first 18 presidents — even those, like John Adams and Abraham Lincoln, who never owned slaves — for having benefited from slavery in some way.

The only in-depth material about the Constitution itself appears in a display that pushes the claim, championed by the controversial 1619 Project, that racism was the driving force behind the entire American political system.

Even the children’s section of the gift shop leans far left, with titles like “Antiracist Baby” by Ibram X. Kendi and “She Persisted” by Chelsea Clinton...

https://nypost.com/2022/07/16/james-mad ... -own-home/

Racism was a driving force behind EVERY political system in the world. Tell us something we don’t know.

[SeattleGriz]

Trump was right. This wasn't going to stop at the tearing down of confederate statues and statues of 18th-19th century white males..






https://nypost.com/2022/07/16/james-mad ... -own-home/

Racism was a driving force behind EVERY political system in the world. Tell us something we don’t know.

Stitt Lover!!

[AZGrizFan]

Racism was a driving force behind EVERY political system in the world. Tell us something we don’t know.

Stitt Lover!!

[GannonFan]

Trump was right. This wasn't going to stop at the tearing down of confederate statues and statues of 18th-19th century white males..

Founding father James Madison sidelined by woke history in his own home

The globalist billionaire who funded the woke transformation of Thomas Jefferson’s Monticello paid for a similar overhaul of James Madison’s house — where the author of the US Constitution has been shoved into a supporting role, while slavery and racism take center stage.

No American flags fly at Montpelier, Madison’s plantation home in rural Virginia, and not a single display focuses on the life and accomplishments of America’s foremost political philosopher, who created our three-branch federal system of government, wrote the Bill of Rights and the Federalist Papers, and served two terms as president.

Instead, blindsided tourists are hammered by high-tech exhibits about Madison’s slaves and current racial conflicts, thanks to a $10 million grant from left-leaning philanthropist David M. Rubenstein.

Visitors to Montpelier get to see just three rooms in the sprawling mansion. The estate “made Madison the philosopher, farmer, statesman, and enslaver that he was,” the guide said as The Post’s group entered the home — a line she repeated at the end of her spiel.

Outdoors and in the house’s huge basement, dozens of interactive stations seek to draw a direct line between slavery, the Constitution, and the problems of African Americans today.

Hurricane Katrina flooding, the Ferguson riots, incarceration, and more all trace back to slavery, according to a 10-minute multi-screen video.

Another exhibit damns every one of the nation’s first 18 presidents — even those, like John Adams and Abraham Lincoln, who never owned slaves — for having benefited from slavery in some way.

The only in-depth material about the Constitution itself appears in a display that pushes the claim, championed by the controversial 1619 Project, that racism was the driving force behind the entire American political system.

Even the children’s section of the gift shop leans far left, with titles like “Antiracist Baby” by Ibram X. Kendi and “She Persisted” by Chelsea Clinton...

https://nypost.com/2022/07/16/james-mad ... -own-home/

Eh, I always thought Madison got too much credit anyway with the "Father of the Constitution" thing. He didn't even write it - someone else wrote the Preamble, committees wrote the actual language, and he didn't even get most of the things he wanted in the Constitution coming in - slaves didn't count for as much as he had hoped, smaller states forced the Connecticut compromise on him, and the Bill of Rights had to be added later. But yes, this is some of the problem when we let bad historical research tainted with current political thought impact how we talk about the past. The same thing happened with all the Confederacy-apologists and the similarly tainted Lost Cause movement that bastardized historical research for a good century after the Civil War.

[kalm]

Trump was right. This wasn't going to stop at the tearing down of confederate statues and statues of 18th-19th century white males..






https://nypost.com/2022/07/16/james-mad ... -own-home/

Eh, I always thought Madison got too much credit anyway with the "Father of the Constitution" thing. He didn't even write it - someone else wrote the Preamble, committees wrote the actual language, and he didn't even get most of the things he wanted in the Constitution coming in - slaves didn't count for as much as he had hoped, smaller states forced the Connecticut compromise on him, and the Bill of Rights had to be added later. But yes, this is some of the problem when we let bad historical research tainted with current political thought impact how we talk about the past. The same thing happened with all the Confederacy-apologists and the similarly tainted Lost Cause movement that bastardized historical research for a good century after the Civil War.

But it’s still ok to mention slavery, right?

[GannonFan]

Eh, I always thought Madison got too much credit anyway with the "Father of the Constitution" thing. He didn't even write it - someone else wrote the Preamble, committees wrote the actual language, and he didn't even get most of the things he wanted in the Constitution coming in - slaves didn't count for as much as he had hoped, smaller states forced the Connecticut compromise on him, and the Bill of Rights had to be added later. But yes, this is some of the problem when we let bad historical research tainted with current political thought impact how we talk about the past. The same thing happened with all the Confederacy-apologists and the similarly tainted Lost Cause movement that bastardized historical research for a good century after the Civil War.

But it’s still ok to mention slavery, right?

Sure, he was a very willing slave owner, so by all means.

[AZGrizFan]

Eh, I always thought Madison got too much credit anyway with the "Father of the Constitution" thing. He didn't even write it - someone else wrote the Preamble, committees wrote the actual language, and he didn't even get most of the things he wanted in the Constitution coming in - slaves didn't count for as much as he had hoped, smaller states forced the Connecticut compromise on him, and the Bill of Rights had to be added later. But yes, this is some of the problem when we let bad historical research tainted with current political thought impact how we talk about the past. The same thing happened with all the Confederacy-apologists and the similarly tainted Lost Cause movement that bastardized historical research for a good century after the Civil War.

But it’s still ok to mention slavery, right?

“Mention”.

[UNI88]

But it’s still ok to mention slavery, right?

Sure, he was a very willing slave owner, so by all means.

Better question for Kalm, is it ok to NOT have exhibits about the three-branch federal system of government, the Bill of Rights, the Federalist Papers, or the significance of his Presidency (I would think that the War of 1812 should be kind of a big deal).

[kalm]

Sure, he was a very willing slave owner, so by all means.

Better question for Kalm, is it ok to NOT have exhibits about the three-branch federal system of government, the Bill of Rights, the Federalist Papers, or the significance of his Presidency (I would think that the War of 1812 should be kind of a big deal).

Exhibit both as important. Easy.

[UNI88]

Better question for Kalm, is it ok to NOT have exhibits about the three-branch federal system of government, the Bill of Rights, the Federalist Papers, or the significance of his Presidency (I would think that the War of 1812 should be kind of a big deal).

Exhibit both as important. Easy.

So focusing on Madison the enslaver and his impact on the problems of African Americans today while ignoring the rest is historically inaccurate and doing the public a disservice?

Are they equally important? Equally factual/proveable?

BDK's quote says that there are "dozens of interactive stations seek to draw a direct line between slavery, the Constitution, and the problems of African Americans today." Can you draw direct line? I agree that there was an impact but I don't think the connection is as solid as Madison's impact on the three-branch federal system of government, the Bill of Rights, etc.

[kalm]

Exhibit both as important. Easy.

So focusing on Madison the enslaver and his impact on the problems of African Americans today while ignoring the rest is historically inaccurate and doing the public a disservice?

Are they equally important? Equally factual/proveable?

BDK's quote says that there are "dozens of interactive stations seek to draw a direct line between slavery, the Constitution, and the problems of African Americans today." Can you draw direct line? I agree that there was an impact but I don't think the connection is as solid as Madison's impact on the three-branch federal system of government, the Bill of Rights, etc.

Yes.

Yes/maybe?

Great question and the answer is based in perception. Historical study shouldn’t care whether or not it makes someone feel sadness or guilt. It’s just history. But we also know who writes history.

I can reflect on the horrors of slavery, be saddened by it AND simultaneously admire the good without feeling personal guilt.

I personally remember being taught all of the great things the founders did and to appreciate the beauty of the system. It wasn’t until much later in adulthood that I came to appreciate the horrors of slavery, the economic roll it played, as well as the ways our system has been and continues to be corrupted.

[BDKJMU]

Apparently not only are you not allowed to say ‘midget’, when referring to someone else say ‘midget’ you’re suppose to say the ‘M-Word’ instead . Well, I had no idea what the ‘M-Word’ was until now.
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[Pwns]

Pick One:
1. A bunch of out-of-shape Proud Boys and Oath Keepers nearly turned the US into a dictatorship on January 6th and it wouldn't matter if guys with uniforms and guns came to forcibly remove Trump from the WH.
2. You need more than assault rifles to fight the gummit.

[Baldy]

Pick One:
1. A bunch of out-of-shape Proud Boys and Oath Keepers nearly turned the US into a dictatorship on January 6th and it wouldn't matter if guys with uniforms and guns came to forcibly remove Trump from the WH.
2. You need more than assault rifles to fight the gummit.

Did the Taliban have F-15's?

[Baldy]

[AZGrizFan]

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[kalm]

Yeah…that bird has flown the coop regardless of race. Better to work on increasing wages.

[BDKJMU]

Free!
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Everything is FREE!!!

I got my Obama phone in my Obama home..

[Baldy]

Yeah…that bird has flown the coop regardless of race. Better to work on increasing wages.

Did we not learn anything from 2007 & 2008?

[kalm]

Yeah…that bird has flown the coop regardless of race. Better to work on increasing wages.

Did we not learn anything from 2007 & 2008?

Apparently not much.

[Pwns]

What could wrong with a too-big-to-fail bank handing out risky loans?

Nothing, bigots.

[Baldy]

Did we not learn anything from 2007 & 2008?

Apparently not much.

Just remember, don't blame the Conks when Armageddon hits next time.

[BDKJMU]

Did they say what percentage you had to be? I’m 1/8 Hispanic, and rumored to be 1/64th to 1/128th black..Wonder if I could get me one of those racist loans..

[Pwns]

[Pwns]

And I thought we were going to value truth now that Biden was president.