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Re: Team trump v/s Everyone

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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:22 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:48 pm Tammy Duckworth, Senator and retired Lieutenant Colonel, U.S. Army, ...

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She's given more to her country and is more qualified.
No she hasn‘t and is debatable. Hegseth saw FAR more combat than she did. Just because he wasn‘t wounded/lost a limb(s) doesn‘t mean he gave less.

Duckworth:
-22 years Reserve and Nat Guard.
-1 combat tour (Iraq)
-Army Commendation Medal; Purple Heart.
-Retired rank colonel.

-BA Univ Of Hawaii; masters GW, doctorate NIU.
-2+ years Director of the Il Dept of Vet Affairs.
-2+ years Assistant Sec of Vet Affairs.
-4 years Rep.
-8 years Senate.

Hegseth:
-18 years Nat Guard.
-2 combat tours (Iraq and Afghanistan) + Cuba deployment
-Combat Infantry Badge; 2 Army Commendation Medals; Bronze Star.
-Retired rank major.

-BA Princeton, Masters Harvard.
-5 years Exec Dir Vets for Freedom.
-3 years President of Concerned Veterans of America.
That's your opinion. Mine is that she has. Maybe trump should ask her why she did it.

Funny that you'd put his time leading veterans organizations on his "resume". He really showed his administrative chops in those roles.
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Re: Team trump v/s Everyone

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:33 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:22 pm
No she hasn‘t and is debatable. Hegseth saw FAR more combat than she did. Just because he wasn‘t wounded/lost a limb(s) doesn‘t mean he gave less.

Duckworth:
-22 years Reserve and Nat Guard.
-1 combat tour (Iraq)
-Army Commendation Medal; Purple Heart.
-Retired rank colonel.

-BA Univ Of Hawaii; masters GW, doctorate NIU.
-2+ years Director of the Il Dept of Vet Affairs.
-2+ years Assistant Sec of Vet Affairs.
-4 years Rep.
-8 years Senate.

Hegseth:
-18 years Nat Guard.
-2 combat tours (Iraq and Afghanistan) + Cuba deployment
-Combat Infantry Badge; 2 Army Commendation Medals; Bronze Star.
-Retired rank major.

-BA Princeton, Masters Harvard.
-5 years Exec Dir Vets for Freedom.
-3 years President of Concerned Veterans of America.
That's your opinion. Mine is that she has. Maybe trump should ask her why she did it.

Funny that you'd put his time leading veterans organizations on his "resume". He really showed his administrative chops in those roles.
:nod:

No need to steal valor from either. They both deserve credit for their service.

What they’ve done since? Not so much.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:33 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:22 pm
No she hasn‘t and is debatable. Hegseth saw FAR more combat than she did. Just because he wasn‘t wounded/lost a limb(s) doesn‘t mean he gave less.

Duckworth:
-22 years Reserve and Nat Guard.
-1 combat tour (Iraq)
-Army Commendation Medal; Purple Heart.
-Retired rank colonel.

-BA Univ Of Hawaii; masters GW, doctorate NIU.
-2+ years Director of the Il Dept of Vet Affairs.
-2+ years Assistant Sec of Vet Affairs.
-4 years Rep.
-8 years Senate.

Hegseth:
-18 years Nat Guard.
-2 combat tours (Iraq and Afghanistan) + Cuba deployment
-Combat Infantry Badge; 2 Army Commendation Medals; Bronze Star.
-Retired rank major.

-BA Princeton, Masters Harvard.
-5 years Exec Dir Vets for Freedom.
-3 years President of Concerned Veterans of America.
That's your opinion. Mine is that she has. Maybe trump should ask her why she did it.

Funny that you'd put his time leading veterans organizations on his "resume". He really showed his administrative chops in those roles.
You didn’t state it as an opinion. You stated it as a fact.

As opposed to being a DC bureaucrat or DC politician?
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Re: Team trump v/s Everyone

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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:14 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:33 pm
That's your opinion. Mine is that she has. Maybe trump should ask her why she did it.

Funny that you'd put his time leading veterans organizations on his "resume". He really showed his administrative chops in those roles.
You didn’t state it as an opinion. You stated it as a fact.

As opposed to being a DC bureaucrat or DC politician?
How did those 2 organizations do financially under his watch? Should someone dig through their 990's?

Weren't they where the alleged sexual assaults/harassment occurred?
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Duckworths entire street cred is for being blown up. Thats what made her "famous"

Michael Spinks can relate he took a bomb from Tyson that blew up his world and Spinks will live in infamy.

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BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 10:37 pm
bobbythekidd wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:07 pm Elmer Stewart Rodes has been sentenced to 18 years for his felonious involvement in J6. The Justice Department had sought 25 years. He is now guilty of domestic terrorism along with other felonies.

He claimed to be a political prisoner until the judge rejected that stance prior to his sentencing.
He was found guilty of seditious conspiracy, not any domestic terrorism charge (There is no stand alone crime of domestic terrorism).
And now he has been pardoned.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:35 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:19 am
Meh, uber liberal jurry pool (2020 election 92.15% Biden, 5.45% Trump, most liberal of any major city in the country), liberal donk appointed judge, in a hyper politically charged trial, a J6er or conk will be found guilty of pretty much whatever they are charged with in DC.
Thank you BDK for representing the right's continued attack on the integrity of our system of justice when things don't go your way.
And now he and his fellow Oath Keeper yahoos have been pardoned.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:58 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 10:37 pm
He was found guilty of seditious conspiracy, not any domestic terrorism charge (There is no stand alone crime of domestic terrorism).
And now he has been pardoned.
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:59 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:35 am
Thank you BDK for representing the right's continued attack on the integrity of our system of justice when things don't go your way.
And now he and his fellow Oath Keeper yahoos have been pardoned.
Which according to MAQA yahoos is proof of their guilt.
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But, Biden, "he did it first"

Like that? Is that how its done?
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:12 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:58 am
And now he has been pardoned.
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:59 am
And now he and his fellow Oath Keeper yahoos have been pardoned.
Which according to MAQA yahoos is proof of their guilt.
Yeah, guilty of trumped up charged from a rarely used Civil era statute in a political show trial with a donk Trump hating judge and 90%+ donk voting (2020) jury pool.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:23 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:12 am
Which according to MAQA yahoos is proof of their guilt.
Yeah, guilty of trumped up charged from a rarely used Civil era statute in a political show trial with a donk Trump hating judge and 90%+ donk voting (2020) jury pool.
If Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, the biden "crime family", etc. are guilty because biden pardoned them then Elmer Stewart Rodes, the "Oath Keeper yahoos", etc. are guilty because trump pardoned them.

If you don't want your hypocrisy pointed out then stop using a ideological double standard for determining guilt.
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Bobcat wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:49 pm Duckworths entire street cred is for being blown up. Thats what made her "famous"

Michael Spinks can relate he took a bomb from Tyson that blew up his world and Spinks will live in infamy.

Thank you for your service Mr Spinks, you true warrior you
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:23 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:12 am



Which according to MAQA yahoos is proof of their guilt.
Yeah, guilty of trumped up charged from a rarely used Civil era statute in a political show trial with a donk Trump hating judge and 90%+ donk voting (2020) jury pool.
A jury of his fellow NYC residents know one when they see one.

They saw one. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:58 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 10:37 pm
He was found guilty of seditious conspiracy, not any domestic terrorism charge (There is no stand alone crime of domestic terrorism).
And now he has been pardoned.
stupid fuck shot himself with his own gun..... :ohno:
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Team Trump seems to be kicking ass. Whatever happened to Trump being run out of town. Horrible instincts by the Lefties on this board.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:19 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:23 pm

Yeah, guilty of trumped up charged from a rarely used Civil era statute in a political show trial with a donk Trump hating judge and 90%+ donk voting (2020) jury pool.
If Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, the biden "crime family", etc. are guilty because biden pardoned them then Elmer Stewart Rodes, the "Oath Keeper yahoos", etc. are guilty because trump pardoned them.

If you don't want your hypocrisy pointed out then stop using a ideological double standard for determining guilt.
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Because the left didn’t do jack shit about tens of thousands of violent BLM rioters who were left free, I could care less if TDSers don’t like 1500 J6ers, most of whom were nothing more than misdemeanor trespass, are freed.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:10 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:19 pm
If Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, the biden "crime family", etc. are guilty because biden pardoned them then Elmer Stewart Rodes, the "Oath Keeper yahoos", etc. are guilty because trump pardoned them.

If you don't want your hypocrisy pointed out then stop using a ideological double standard for determining guilt.
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Because the left didn’t do jack shit about tens of thousands of violent BLM rioters who were left free, I could care less if TDSers don’t like 1500 J6ers, most of whom were nothing more than misdemeanor trespass, are freed.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:16 am No, they are different. Kalm however is focusing on the differences that make the Capital protests look worse (attack on the Capital, egged on by the POTUS, etc.) while ignoring or marginalizing the differences that make the BLM protests look worse (150+ days, magnitude of violence and property damage, etc.). Which protests people think were worse appears for many to be dependent on their politics rather than on an honest comparison of the two.
I don't know, I think the mob attack on the capitol building was worse than any of the BLM violence simply because it struck at the very heart of where and how our government functions (or at least makes the appearance of functioning) and if that were to be derailed by an assault it would have significant ramifications for the nation. I don't mean to devalue a family or a person losing a business that got looted and burned because they had the misfortune of being in the area of a BLM protest/riot, but the magnitude to the country is certainly different to the two. Make no mistake, all riots and all violence from these "protests" are bad, and politicians of all stripes have not done the job they should to not only denounce the riots but to also avoid encouraging them, but I think you can rank an attack on our nations ability to govern a little higher than others.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:59 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:35 am

Thank you BDK for representing the right's continued attack on the integrity of our system of justice when things don't go your way.
And now he and his fellow Oath Keeper yahoos have been pardoned.
Correction some commuted including Oath Keepers and Proud Boys leaders.
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Well, the Department of Justice really made the case for these pardons, and it was hard to do because most of us supported the people responsible for the riot being held accountable. It was a terrible day. But the Justice Department unleashed what one of its top lawyers called a ‘shock and awe’ campaign, and they just scooped up hundreds of people. They often demanded really excessive sentences, in my view. Most of these people were charged with just trespass or unlawful entry. Most of them were not violent. The government tended to oppose bail, they kept a number of them for a very long time in segregation. In some cases, they demanded limitations on what people could say or read or associate with after they were released. All of this tended to undermine their case. So when the president campaigned on this issue, I think a lot of people wanted to see this chapter closed, and he certainly did that. I mean, this was broader than most people expected or even asked for.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:58 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 10:37 pm
He was found guilty of seditious conspiracy, not any domestic terrorism charge (There is no stand alone crime of domestic terrorism).
And now he has been pardoned.
So much for the party of law and order, huh?
From the record of his sentencing, "For the first time in a case related to the Jan. 6 attack, Judge Mehta found Rhodes' conduct amounted to terrorism, and factored that into his calculations under the advisory sentencing guidelines.
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bobbythekidd wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:28 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:58 am
And now he has been pardoned.
So much for the party of law and order, huh?
From the record of his sentencing, "For the first time in a case related to the Jan. 6 attack, Judge Mehta found Rhodes' conduct amounted to terrorism, and factored that into his calculations under the advisory sentencing guidelines.
Oh, where you here to complain about Biden's pardons? Didn't think so. You have no leg to stand on.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:46 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:59 am
And now he and his fellow Oath Keeper yahoos have been pardoned.
Correction some commuted including Oath Keepers and Proud Boys leaders.

still guilty as charged in both cases
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bobbythekidd wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:28 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:58 am
And now he has been pardoned.
So much for the party of law and order, huh?
From the record of his sentencing, "For the first time in a case related to the Jan. 6 attack, Judge Mehta found Rhodes' conduct amounted to terrorism, and factored that into his calculations under the advisory sentencing guidelines.
In the opinion of an Obama appointed donk judge in a highly political trial with a 92% donk voting jury pool.
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Biden pardoned murderers, he allowed murderers into the country, he killed our military members with his inept withdrawal from Afghanistan and all these bought and paid for whores are still "but Trumping" around like they own the place.

Do not listen to anything they have to say, its over. Run them over dont look back. Use brut force to make them go away and take back this country
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:19 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:23 pm

Yeah, guilty of trumped up charged from a rarely used Civil era statute in a political show trial with a donk Trump hating judge and 90%+ donk voting (2020) jury pool.
If Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, the biden "crime family", etc. are guilty because biden pardoned them then Elmer Stewart Rodes, the "Oath Keeper yahoos", etc. are guilty because trump pardoned them.

If you don't want your hypocrisy pointed out then stop using a ideological double standard for determining guilt.
-I didn‘t say Rhodes wasn‘t guilty of anything.
-Trump didn‘t pardon him, but commuted his sentence (and several fellows yahoos) to time served (4 years, 1 week I believe).
-18 years for a yahoo whose only crime carried out was a criminal tresspass. Everything was just talk. Was a crock he even served 4 years, esp when can give countless examples of BLM protestors who did far worse, actually carried out violent crimes, but got far less,
-BLMer who threw the molotov cocktail into an occupied NYPD van occupied by 4 cops, then bit one on the leg while bwing arrested. Charged federally. Attempted murder of 4 police officers and got just 6 years.
-Lawyer who threw a molotov cocktail into an NYP cruiser get only 15 months.
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