BREAKING: Rep Gabrielle Giffords; Several Others Shot

[BlueHen86]

Thanks Native. I'm glad to see that you get it. I'm saddened that so many on here just don't seem to.

"There's a darkness upon me that's covered in light. In the fine print it tells me what's wrong and what right, and it comes in black and it comes in white, and I'm frightened by those that don't see it."

24 hours isn't much to ask, dd. I could go for a lot more than that.

You are a stand up guy, dd.

You are free to take a break from the poli forum whenever you like. That doesn't mean that others have to follow suit.

[native]

24 hours isn't much to ask, dd. I could go for a lot more than that.

You are a stand up guy, dd.

You are free to take a break from the poli forum whenever you like. That doesn't mean that others have to follow suit.

No thanks, Mr. bluepants. I am also free to criticize the arseholes.

And you are free to tire of my self-righteousness, or whatever you perceive it to be.

However, I would rather the arseholes follow your lead and demonstrate some rationality and civility.

And I do NOT rescind the nice things I said about you earlier in this thread.

[Skjellyfetti]

A senior Republican senator, speaking anonymously in order to freely discuss the tragedy, told POLITICO that the Giffords shooting should be taken as a “cautionary tale” by Republicans.

“There is a need for some reflection here - what is too far now?” said the senator. “What was too far when Oklahoma City happened is accepted now. There’s been a desensitizing. These town halls and cable TV and talk radio, everybody’s trying to outdo each other.”

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[mainejeff]

24 hours isn't much to ask, dd. I could go for a lot more than that.

You are a stand up guy, dd.

You are free to take a break from the poli forum whenever you like. That doesn't mean that others have to follow suit.

Amen!!! If people feel the need to lock themselves in a church and pray for a week......that is their prerogative. We're not ALL minions though.........so I suggest they do whatever THEY need to do and leave the rest of us alone.

[BlueHen86]

You are free to take a break from the poli forum whenever you like. That doesn't mean that others have to follow suit.

No thanks, Mr. bluepants. I am also free to criticize the arseholes.

And you are free to tire of my self-righteousness, or whatever you perceive it to be.

However, I would rather the arseholes follow your lead and demonstrate some rationality and civility.

And I do NOT rescind the nice things I said about you earlier in this thread.

Thanks. It wasn't my intent to come across like an ass, although I know I did.

[CID1990]

Meet Daniel Hernandez, the intern who likely saved Gabrielle Giffords’ life

Daniel Hernandez had only been Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' intern for five days, and on Saturday, he may have saved her life.

The University of Arizona junior was standing 30 feet away from the Democratic congresswoman when she was shot in the head at a meet-and-greet event in her district, and he immediately rushed to her side. As everyone on hand waited for emergency medical support to arrive, Hernandez held Giffords's head in his lap and applied pressure to her wound.

At the same time, Hernandez advised others on providing help for the other 20 others injured and killed in the attack—and that quick thinking has led many to label him a hero in Saturday's horrific event.

"When I heard gunshots, my first instinct was to head toward the congresswoman to make sure that she was okay," Hernandez said in an interview with ABC's Christine Amanpour Sunday. "Once I saw that she was down, and there were more than one victim, I went ahead and started doing the limited triage that I could with what I had."

Hernandez, who is 20, told ABC that he simply "shut off all emotion." "I knew I wouldn't be good to anyone if I had a breakdown," he recalled. He noted that he went to help because he had "limited experience in triage and training."

He lifted up Giffords' head, because he feared she might choke on her own blood, and used smocks from the grocery store's meat department as a makeshift bandages for her and other victims.

Giffords, he says, was alert, but couldn't talk.

"'Just grab my hand to let me know that you're okay,'" he recalls telling the injured lawmaker.

According to Hernandez, she squeezed his hand, and he didn't let go, riding with her in the ambulance to the hospital, where she was rushed into emergency surgery.

"It was probably not the best idea to run toward the gunshots," he told the Arizona Republic. "But people needed help."

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If someone needs comforting when thinking that this world is full of wackos like the guy who did this, just consider that for every one wacko there are 100,000 people like this kid out there.

[houndawg]

Millions of people with nothing to lose......

[mainejeff]

Millions of people with nothing to lose......

Unfortunately very true. Republicans can't seem to grasp this concept.......or don't care. I guess that they all plan on living in a gated, high security community and ordering out for all of their needs.

[AZGrizFan]

Millions of people with nothing to lose......

Unfortunately very true. Republicans can't seem to grasp this concept.......or don't care. I guess that they all plan on living in a gated, high security community and ordering out for all of their needs.

Jesus, you are funny,

[FargoBison]

Suspect Fixated on Giffords
By JOHN R. EMSHWILLER, DEVLIN BARRETT and CHARLES FORELLE

TUCSON, Ariz.—Accused gunman Jared Lee Loughner appeared to have been long obsessed with U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

A safe at Mr. Loughner's home contained a form letter from Ms. Giffords' office thanking him for attending a 2007 "Congress on your Corner'' event in Tucson. The safe also held an envelope with handwritten notes, including the name of Ms. Giffords, as well as "I planned ahead," "My assassination," and what appeared to be Mr. Loughner's signature, according to an FBI affidavit.

Federal authorities charged Mr. Loughner on Sunday with two counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder and a count of attempting to assassinate a member of Congress, during a scheduled public appearance by Ms. Giffords here Saturday. More charges are expected, officials said, and Mr. Loughner, age 22, remains in federal custody.

Mr. Loughner had complained to a friend about how he was treated by the Arizona lawmaker during an event several years ago, which aggravated Mr. Loughner, according to the friend.

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[93henfan]

I was late to this thread and only read the first four or five pages of posts and got bored, so forgive me if this was already commented on:

Didn't Obama call Republicans "the enemy" or something to that effect just a couple of months ago? How does that differ from what Palin does?

[AZGrizFan]

I was late to this thread and only read the first four or five pages of posts and got bored, so forgive me if this was already commented on:

Didn't Obama call Republicans "the enemy" or something to that effect just a couple of months ago? How does that differ from what Palin does?

No difference whatsoever. Just that some psycho donk hasn't gone off half-cocked and killed a bunch of people yet.

[93henfan]

I really hope than we can somehow reverse the course that politics has taken since the days when Reagan and Tip O'Neil used to have nightcaps together. Probably just wishful thinking.

[D1B]

I was late to this thread and only read the first four or five pages of posts and got bored, so forgive me if this was already commented on:

Didn't Obama call Republicans "the enemy" or something to that effect just a couple of months ago? How does that differ from what Palin does?

No difference whatsoever. Just that some psycho donk hasn't gone off half-cocked and killed a bunch of people yet.

Aint gonna happen, Bufort.

Libs = peaceful and non-homicidal
Conks = religious whackjob violent fucks

[Rob Iola]

No difference whatsoever. Just that some psycho donk hasn't gone off half-cocked and killed a bunch of people yet.

Aint gonna happen, Bufort.

Libs = peaceful and non-homicidal
Conks = religious whackjob violent fucks

I thought Islam was peace? Why don't you start a "F Muhammed" thread and watch the fun...

[mainejeff]

No difference whatsoever. Just that some psycho donk hasn't gone off half-cocked and killed a bunch of people yet.

Aint gonna happen, Bufort.

Libs = peaceful and non-homicidal
Conks = religious whackjob violent ****

[D1B]

Aint gonna happen, Bufort.

Libs = peaceful and non-homicidal
Conks = religious whackjob violent fucks

I thought Islam was peace? Why don't you start a "F Muhammed" thread and watch the fun...

Fuck of Rob. You're a decent person, but the people actually voting your dickhead heros into office are poor white violent, stupid, gun totin scum. At some point YOU have to take responsibility for their actions.

[Rob Iola]

I thought Islam was peace? Why don't you start a "F Muhammed" thread and watch the fun...

Fuck of Rob. You're a decent person, but the people actually voting your dickhead heros into office are poor white violent, stupid, gun totin scum. At some point YOU have to take responsibility for their actions.

That should be "Fuck off Rob"...

If you label people voting Republican (I'm assuming you're referring to R's as "dickhead heros") as poor white violent stupid gun totin scum, then you're engaging in the same rhetoric as those very poor white violent stupid gun totin scum.

It matters D, it matters. Your language speaks of deep-seated hatred.

Stop telling everyone you disagree with to fuck off.

[CID1990]

**** of Rob. You're a decent person, but the people actually voting your dickhead heros into office are poor white violent, stupid, gun totin scum. At some point YOU have to take responsibility for their actions.

That should be "**** off Rob"...

If you label people voting Republican (I'm assuming you're referring to R's as "dickhead heros") as poor white violent stupid gun totin scum, then you're engaging in the same rhetoric as those very poor white violent stupid gun totin scum.

It matters D, it matters. Your language speaks of deep-seated hatred.

Stop telling everyone you disagree with to **** off.

He's just baiting, Rob.

He lives for the bobble-headed approval of the dbackjons of the world.

[houndawg]

**** of Rob. You're a decent person, but the people actually voting your dickhead heros into office are poor white violent, stupid, gun totin scum. At some point YOU have to take responsibility for their actions.

That should be "**** off Rob"...

If you label people voting Republican (I'm assuming you're referring to R's as "dickhead heros") as poor white violent stupid gun totin scum, then you're engaging in the same rhetoric as those very poor white violent stupid gun totin scum.

It matters D, it matters. Your language speaks of deep-seated hatred.

Stop telling everyone you disagree with to **** off.

So are you by suggesting that Islam is at fault for the actions of those who use it to further their own agenda.

[Gil Dobie]

No difference whatsoever. Just that some psycho donk hasn't gone off half-cocked and killed a bunch of people yet.

Aint gonna happen, Bufort.

Libs = peaceful and non-homicidal
Conks = religious whackjob violent ****

Spreading your hate isn't very peaceful

[houndawg]

I was late to this thread and only read the first four or five pages of posts and got bored, so forgive me if this was already commented on:

Didn't Obama call Republicans "the enemy" or something to that effect just a couple of months ago? How does that differ from what Palin does?

No difference whatsoever. Just that some psycho donk hasn't gone off half-cocked and killed a bunch of people
yet.

And probably won't, that being the difference.

[kalm]

Pima Count Arizona Sheriff Clarence Dupnik:

But again I’d just like to say that when you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain people’s mouths about tearing down the government, the anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And, unfortunately, Arizona I believe has become sort of the capital. We have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry.

Can't believe you conks missed the irony in that statement.

[native]

...He lives for the bobble-headed approval of the dbackjons of the world.

"Bobble-headed" approval?!???

[native]

No thanks, Mr. bluepants. I am also free to criticize the arseholes.

And you are free to tire of my self-righteousness, or whatever you perceive it to be.

However, I would rather the arseholes follow your lead and demonstrate some rationality and civility.

And I do NOT rescind the nice things I said about you earlier in this thread.

Thanks. It wasn't my intent to come across like an ass, although I know I did.

Your reputation as a good-natured fence sitter and good-humored provocateur survives intact.