April is Confederate History Month

[BigSkyBears]

The war was over slavery.

[citdog]

Captain Tod Carter 20th Tennessee Volunteers. "Almost Home". Mortally Wounded in his own front yard. Battle of Franklin 30 Nov 1864. Captain Carter was 24 years old. 5 Confederate Generals, including my kinsman General States Rights Gist, were laid on his front porch after dying on the field.


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More on the Battle of Franklin.
http://www.carter-house.org/the-battle-of-franklin/

[citdog]

Governor Jimmy Carter visits The Confederados






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[mrklean]

GOD bless John Brown and Nat Turner!!!!

[Grizalltheway]

citdog touting Jimmy Carter.

[citdog]

GOD bless John Brown and Nat Turner!!!!

I believe those murdering scum got what they deserved. I also am quite sure that they were discussed during the shortest, coldest, and darkest month of the year.

[mrklean]

GOD bless John Brown and Nat Turner!!!!

I believe those murdering scum got what they deserved. I also am quite sure that they were discussed during the shortest, coldest, and darkest month of the year.

They died HEROS fighting evil and injustice. I know they have a good place in Heaven.

[citdog]

I believe those murdering scum got what they deserved. I also am quite sure that they were discussed during the shortest, coldest, and darkest month of the year.

They died HEROS fighting evil and injustice. I know they have a good place in Heaven.

Hell isn't a bad enough place for those two. Brown was a madman and turner was properly dealt with. so was vessey for that matter. they are having an interracial anal fourway in hell with robert gould shaw.

[mrklean]

They died HEROS fighting evil and injustice. I know they have a good place in Heaven.

Hell isn't a bad enough place for those two. Brown was a madman and turner was properly dealt with. so was vessey for that matter. they are having an interracial anal fourway in hell with robert gould shaw.

but in the End, you side lost. That traitor Robert E. Lee should have been shot and burned and buried in a pig ditch. Freaking yellow coward!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!r!!!!!!!!!!!

[citdog]

Hell isn't a bad enough place for those two. Brown was a madman and turner was properly dealt with. so was vessey for that matter. they are having an interracial anal fourway in hell with robert gould shaw.

but in the End, you side lost. That traitor Robert E. Lee should have been shot and burned and buried in a pig ditch. Freaking yellow coward!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!r!!!!!!!!!!!

but proving that Yahweh does indeed give the wicked what they are due. it was Mr. Shaw who was shot and buried in a pig ditch.

[citdog]

A Southern Family remember their G-G-Grandfather. Noah Jasper Hampton. Enlisted when he was 16. The postwar pictures of Confederate Veterans from Tennessee are pretty cool.



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[GannonFan]

but in the End, you side lost. That traitor Robert E. Lee should have been shot and burned and buried in a pig ditch. Freaking yellow coward!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!r!!!!!!!!!!!

but proving that Yahweh does indeed give the wicked what they are due. it was Mr. Shaw who was shot and buried in a pig ditch.

So I'm curious now, what makes Shaw "wicked" and deserving to be in hell?

[mrklean]

A Southern Family remember their G-G-Grandfather. Noah Jasper Hampton. Enlisted when he was 16. The postwar pictures of Confederate Veterans from Tennessee are pretty cool.



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[Ivytalk]

Appomattox (April 10) should be on every red-blooded American's calendar!

[93henfan]

Appomattox (April 10) should be on every red-blooded American's calendar!

A fun place to visit as well. A place where the so-called ruthless Yankees allowed the ass-kicked rebels to walk away with some measure of dignity, after feeding them. Heck, they even rendered military honors to the traitors as they marched in to turn in their weapons.

[citdog]

but proving that Yahweh does indeed give the wicked what they are due. it was Mr. Shaw who was shot and buried in a pig ditch.

So I'm curious now, what makes Shaw "wicked" and deserving to be in hell?

Why it is quite simple gannonjocksniffer. Attempting to incite servile insurrection.

[citdog]

Wilderness May 1864

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[GannonFan]

So I'm curious now, what makes Shaw "wicked" and deserving to be in hell?

Why it is quite simple gannonjocksniffer. Attempting to incite servile insurrection.

See, even when you try to be cultured and honorable in your remembrance of your ancestors and try to pretend that what they fought and died for was noble and pristine, you throw out a comment like that that basically shows that what you and your ancestor's were really about - you were fighting for (and you're remembering people who were) keeping a whole race of people in bondage. Try to dress it up any way you want, but when it comes down to it, the Confederacy is remembered as the attempt by a whole assemblage of people to keep people enslaved based on the color of their skin, and the world is a far better place because that attempt was thoroughly and convincingly annihilated. People like Grant and Sherman had their flaws in life, but they are remembered as great generals because they were leaders in making sure people like you with the beliefs you had/have didn't win. They are heroes of humanity for relegating the Confederacy, and all that it stood for (i.e. keeping Black people enslaved) to the dustbin of history.

[citdog]

Why it is quite simple gannonjocksniffer. Attempting to incite servile insurrection.

See, even when you try to be cultured and honorable in your remembrance of your ancestors and try to pretend that what they fought and died for was noble and pristine, you throw out a comment like that that basically shows that what you and your ancestor's were really about - you were fighting for (and you're remembering people who were) keeping a whole race of people in bondage. Try to dress it up any way you want, but when it comes down to it, the Confederacy is remembered as the attempt by a whole assemblage of people to keep people enslaved based on the color of their skin, and the world is a far better place because that attempt was thoroughly and convincingly annihilated. People like Grant and Sherman had their flaws in life, but they are remembered as great generals because they were leaders in making sure people like you with the beliefs you had/have didn't win. They are heroes of humanity for relegating the Confederacy, and all that it stood for (i.e. keeping Black people enslaved) to the dustbin of history.

gould shaw, john brown.... difference? none. In the context of the times no difference in our view. to pretend that ALL you were fighting for was to free those held in bondage is as disingenious (sp) and historically inaccurate as those who say that is ALL we were fighting for. was one of the goals of the USCT to help incite servile insurrection? YES. Did the men of African descent fight well generally? Yes. Did the fact that they did help to begin to prove to both sections the view they all held about his inferiority to them solely because of the color of his skin to be inaccurate? YES.

As far as the collective memory of our country? the undereducated, the people who know just enough to be dangerous, will always hold that view. they possess not the intelligence to see past what the State Power WAS to ever be able to look objectively at the argument of State Powers where it is plain to all the righteousness of THE CAUSE.

Grant and sherman heroes of humanity? if that is your view then you must be a huge fan of atilla, the mongols, the huns, and these guys

So yes the yankee view of the nature of our 'voluntary union' won out in 1865 and LOOK at the results of THAT! A bloated, out of control, imperialist government of corruption and greed. Johnny Reb striking a match against a tree and puffing on his tobacco pipe says.......


"I TOLD YOU SO!"

[Grizo406]

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[citdog]

Grizo White Mansions is excellent! My favorite of Waylon's


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[Grizo406]

Grizo White Mansions is excellent! My favorite of Waylon's


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White Mansions will ALWAYS be in my "Top 5" favorite CD's of all time!

[citdog]

Grizo White Mansions is excellent! My favorite of Waylon's


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White Mansions will ALWAYS be in my "Top 5" favorite CD's of all time!

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[citdog]

Eric Clapton from White Mansions

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[GannonFan]

See, even when you try to be cultured and honorable in your remembrance of your ancestors and try to pretend that what they fought and died for was noble and pristine, you throw out a comment like that that basically shows that what you and your ancestor's were really about - you were fighting for (and you're remembering people who were) keeping a whole race of people in bondage. Try to dress it up any way you want, but when it comes down to it, the Confederacy is remembered as the attempt by a whole assemblage of people to keep people enslaved based on the color of their skin, and the world is a far better place because that attempt was thoroughly and convincingly annihilated. People like Grant and Sherman had their flaws in life, but they are remembered as great generals because they were leaders in making sure people like you with the beliefs you had/have didn't win. They are heroes of humanity for relegating the Confederacy, and all that it stood for (i.e. keeping Black people enslaved) to the dustbin of history.

gould shaw, john brown.... difference? none. In the context of the times no difference in our view. to pretend that ALL you were fighting for was to free those held in bondage is as disingenious (sp) and historically inaccurate as those who say that is ALL we were fighting for. was one of the goals of the USCT to help incite servile insurrection? YES. Did the men of African descent fight well generally? Yes. Did the fact that they did help to begin to prove to both sections the view they all held about his inferiority to them solely because of the color of his skin to be inaccurate? YES.

As far as the collective memory of our country? the undereducated, the people who know just enough to be dangerous, will always hold that view. they possess not the intelligence to see past what the State Power WAS to ever be able to look objectively at the argument of State Powers where it is plain to all the righteousness of THE CAUSE.

Grant and sherman heroes of humanity? if that is your view then you must be a huge fan of atilla, the mongols, the huns, and these guys

So yes the yankee view of the nature of our 'voluntary union' won out in 1865 and LOOK at the results of THAT! A bloated, out of control, imperialist government of corruption and greed. Johnny Reb striking a match against a tree and puffing on his tobacco pipe says.......


"I TOLD YOU SO!"

See, no one ever says that all the Union was fighting for was to end slavery. From the get go, everyone agrees that the Union was fighting to preserve the Union. The goal to end slavery once and for all didn't come to being until much later in the war. However, the South, from the get go, was clearly and foremostly interested in preserving slavery. All you have to do is read all the articles of secession - every single one of them talk about how preserving slavery forever was paramount to the South and that they left the Union to preserve that right. They weren't seceeding because of tarriffs or representation in the legislature, per se, they were withdrawing because they felt slavery was threatened. Come on, man, this passage starts the second sentence of the Mississippi secession pronouncement...

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

As for what government has been wrought since the Civil War, I'm not really ashamed of the US since then. We ended slavery, have given women more rights than in most areas of the world, fought and won two World Wars, the second against one of the most vile movements in the history of mankind, fought a Cold War against a vile Communistic regime and won, and have been the source of the most numeorus and important advances in almost every field of every science over the past century. Yeah, we have a problem with deficits and such, but on the whole, the US has been a remarkable success for the past 150 years. And we can most likely attribute some portion of that to the convincing annihilation of the South and it's vile defense of bondage based on race.