National Emergency Declared!

[Ibanez]

So, will the next Donk POTUS declare a national emergency on Gun Violence? What about healthcare?

Trump is going to lose in the court and declare "victory" and say he tried to get it done.

[CID1990]

So, will the next Donk POTUS declare a national emergency on Gun Violence? What about healthcare?

If it happens, I can predict with 99.999% accuracy who on this board would support it




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[mainejeff]

So, will the next Donk POTUS declare a national emergency on Gun Violence? What about healthcare?

If it happens, I can predict with 99.999% accuracy who on this board would support it




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And who would be against it.

[CID1990]

If it happens, I can predict with 99.999% accuracy who on this board would support it




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And who would be against it.

I would. I’m against abuses of power by the executive, and for a decentralized government.

I would hope that would be your impression of me.


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[houndawg]

Trump declares a National Emergency!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconn ... -emergency

Godspeed everyone.

Jade Helm

[AZGrizFan]

Are liberals now using guns to kill babies?

Are Trump supporters using AR-15s in mass killings? You betcha!

Many thanks to Comrade Trump for paving the way for an executive declaration of a National Emergency. He and his supporters are the gift that keeps on giving. It's like he is the lab rat that will pave gthe way for liberal domination in this country over the next couple of decades.

Maybe he will get his statue eventually after all......

Funny, we thought the same thing when Harry Reid got rid of the supermajority requirement...they all do stupid shit, MJ. At least admit that....

[Pwns]

Remember when Ron Paul warned us about executive power and the GOP and donks were, like, "lol what an anachronistic old coot"? I remember.

[Skjellyfetti]

And who would be against it.

I would. I’m against abuses of power by the executive, and for a decentralized government.

I would hope that would be your impression of me.


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Are you against the national emergency declaration or do you make an exception for it like eminent domain?

[SDHornet]

So, will the next Donk POTUS declare a national emergency on Gun Violence? What about healthcare?

Trump is going to lose in the court and declare "victory" and say he tried to get it done.

Yes....


...then those will be challenged in the courts just like this wall emergency will be....


...and if those go to SCOTUS, the Trump appointed Justices will be the deciding factor in ruling them down...


....because elections have consequences...

[CID1990]

I would. I’m against abuses of power by the executive, and for a decentralized government.

I would hope that would be your impression of me.


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Are you against the national emergency declaration or do you make an exception for it like eminent domain?

I don't think it is a national emergency, so no, I don't agree with Trump declaring one.

Hence my term "abuses of power" that you must not have understood.

[Skjellyfetti]

Just making sure you were clear in applying it to Trump.

And, abuse of power is an impeachable offense. You think he should be impeached?

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

National defense and protecting our country is not an abuse of power, its doing wht he swore under oath he would do when we elected him.

[BDKJMU]

So, will the next Donk POTUS declare a national emergency on Gun Violence? What about healthcare?

Trump is going to lose in the court and declare "victory" and say he tried to get it done.

Not successfully. Even if SCOTUS (where this will end up) rules that Trump does have the authority in this case, he isn’t overturning a constitutional amendment, and no donk POTUS will be able to overturn 2A by a national emergency declaration.

And if SCOTUS rules like you say, that Trump doesn’t have the authority, then a donk POTUS won’t declare one on either above scenario..

[Baldy]

We'll start with the AR-15s....then take your hand guns & rifles. National Emergency and Executive Power baby!

jeff, crack open a book and take a civics lesson. You are woefully uninformed on this issue.

[Ibanez]

Just making sure you were clear in applying it to Trump.

And, abuse of power is an impeachable offense. You think he should be impeached?

Trump thought so back in 2014

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[Ibanez]

So, will the next Donk POTUS declare a national emergency on Gun Violence? What about healthcare?

Trump is going to lose in the court and declare "victory" and say he tried to get it done.

Not successfully. Even if SCOTUS (where this will end up) rules that Trump does have the authority in this case, he isn’t overturning a constitutional amendment, and no donk POTUS will be able to overturn 2A by a national emergency declaration.

And if SCOTUS rules like you say, that Trump doesn’t have the authority, then a donk POTUS won’t declare one on either above scenario..

You never miss a chance to completely miss the point.

[bluehenbillk]

CNN & the like would make you believe that National Emergencies are never used, which is a pile of crap. Since 1979 U.S. Presidents have declared 58 National Emergencies, 31 of these are still in effect today. Clinton used it the most, 17 times.

[Ibanez]

CNN & the like would make you believe that National Emergencies are never used, which is a pile of crap. Since 1979 U.S. Presidents have declared 58 National Emergencies, 31 of these are still in effect today. Clinton used it the most, 17 times.

I'd be willing to bet most of them were for sanctions, disaster relief, barring the US from importing illegal items or working with a foreign company. Things like that and not a construction project. It's not meant to circumnavigate the appropriation duties of Congress when you don't get your way.

[∞∞∞]

CNN & the like would make you believe that National Emergencies are never used, which is a pile of crap. Since 1979 U.S. Presidents have declared 58 National Emergencies, 31 of these are still in effect today. Clinton used it the most, 17 times.

I'd be willing to bet most of them were for sanctions, disaster relief, barring the US from importing illegal items or working with a foreign company. Things like that and not a construction project. It's not meant to circumnavigate the appropriation duties of Congress when you don't get your way.

Most "small government" folks are the ones who cheer on authoritarianism and more of this bullshit.

[mainejeff]

Are Trump supporters using AR-15s in mass killings? You betcha!

Many thanks to Comrade Trump for paving the way for an executive declaration of a National Emergency. He and his supporters are the gift that keeps on giving. It's like he is the lab rat that will pave gthe way for liberal domination in this country over the next couple of decades.

Maybe he will get his statue eventually after all......

Funny, we thought the same thing when Harry Reid got rid of the supermajority requirement...they all do stupid shit, MJ. At least admit that....

Sure....I'll admit it.

Can we talk about Trump now? He is the current President....right?

[mainejeff]

National defense and protecting our country is not an abuse of power, its doing wht he swore under oath he would do when we elected him.

Agreed. Which is why the next President will be taking your guns in a couple of years.....before you go off the deep end and hurt someone.

[mainejeff]

We'll start with the AR-15s....then take your hand guns & rifles. National Emergency and Executive Power baby!

jeff, crack open a book and take a civics lesson. You are woefully uninformed on this issue.

The needle is moving....and we have Donald J. Trump to thank for that.

The Constitution won't mean shit in another decade....

[mainejeff]

CNN & the like would make you believe that National Emergencies are never used, which is a pile of crap. Since 1979 U.S. Presidents have declared 58 National Emergencies, 31 of these are still in effect today. Clinton used it the most, 17 times.

Actually CNN listed all of the national Emergencies declared by past Presidents. And you are wrong about Clinton....he declared 9. Dubya Bush declared 13. Trump has already declared 3....soon to be 4.

Here's the list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_n ... ted_States

[mainejeff]

I'd be willing to bet most of them were for sanctions, disaster relief, barring the US from importing illegal items or working with a foreign company. Things like that and not a construction project. It's not meant to circumnavigate the appropriation duties of Congress when you don't get your way.

Most "small government" folks are the ones who cheer on authoritarianism and more of this bullshit.

[Ibanez]

CNN & the like would make you believe that National Emergencies are never used, which is a pile of crap. Since 1979 U.S. Presidents have declared 58 National Emergencies, 31 of these are still in effect today. Clinton used it the most, 17 times.

Actually CNN listed all of the national Emergencies declared by past Presidents. And you are wrong about Clinton....he declared 9. Dubya Bush declared 13. Trump has already declared 3....soon to be 4.

Here's the list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_n ... ted_States

Even Wikipedia says that list is incomplete