Of course you support it. You’re nothing but an old-fashioned Huey P. Long share-our-wealth liberal Democrat. A true conservative would shake his head in horror at the expense and the government overreach. Hang up your spikes and go home.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:20 pm With respect to the "Build Back Better" thing. I was looking for this last night and couldn't find it:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrats- ... nion-poll/
If you ask people about whether or not they support individual things that are in it, they in favor. For example: 88% of respondents supported lowering prescription drug prices, 84% supported Medicare coverage for Dental/Eye/Hearing, 73% supported paid family medical leave, and 67% supported universal pre K.
Also, while 54% of all respondents supported the plan, 67% of those who had heard about the Medicare and Family Leave provisions of it did.
The problem the Democrats have with it is that most people have heard more about the cost expressed as "3.5 trillion" and don't know the details. Of course the 3.5 trillion is over 10 years. $350 billion is a lot but "an average of $350 billion per year" doesn't sound as striking as "3.5 trillion."
I'm not sure if I support it or not. But I think that if the Democrats can somehow get it through in some form it will end up helping them. I think the effects of it would be popular.
The problem is that they are currently in circular firing squad formation. The progressives don't have enough sense to avoid over reaching and there are a couple of moderates who are willing to torpedo the entire Party.
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Well at least we don’t have true conservatives in control.Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:47 pmOf course you support it. You’re nothing but an old-fashioned Huey P. Long share-our-wealth liberal Democrat. A true conservative would shake his head in horror at the expense and the government overreach. Hang up your spikes and go home.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:20 pm With respect to the "Build Back Better" thing. I was looking for this last night and couldn't find it:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrats- ... nion-poll/
If you ask people about whether or not they support individual things that are in it, they in favor. For example: 88% of respondents supported lowering prescription drug prices, 84% supported Medicare coverage for Dental/Eye/Hearing, 73% supported paid family medical leave, and 67% supported universal pre K.
Also, while 54% of all respondents supported the plan, 67% of those who had heard about the Medicare and Family Leave provisions of it did.
The problem the Democrats have with it is that most people have heard more about the cost expressed as "3.5 trillion" and don't know the details. Of course the 3.5 trillion is over 10 years. $350 billion is a lot but "an average of $350 billion per year" doesn't sound as striking as "3.5 trillion."
I'm not sure if I support it or not. But I think that if the Democrats can somehow get it through in some form it will end up helping them. I think the effects of it would be popular.
The problem is that they are currently in circular firing squad formation. The progressives don't have enough sense to avoid over reaching and there are a couple of moderates who are willing to torpedo the entire Party.

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BDK - you're forgetting that it'll cost $0. Remember?BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:46 pmJohnStOnge wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:20 pm With respect to the "Build Back Better" thing. I was looking for this last night and couldn't find it:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrats- ... nion-poll/
If you ask people about whether or not they support individual things that are in it, they in favor. For example: 88% of respondents supported lowering prescription drug prices, 84% supported Medicare coverage for Dental/Eye/Hearing, 73% supported paid family medical leave, and 67% supported universal pre K.
Also, while 54% of all respondents supported the plan, 67% of those who had heard about the Medicare and Family Leave provisions of it did.
The problem the Democrats have with it is that most people have heard more about the cost expressed as "3.5 trillion" and don't know the details. Of course the 3.5 trillion is over 10 years. $350 billion is a lot but "an average of $350 billion per year" doesn't sound as striking as "3.5 trillion."
I'm not sure if I support it or not. But I think that if the Democrats can somehow get it through in some form it will end up helping them. I think the effects of it would be popular.
The problem is that they are currently in circular firing squad formation. The progressives don't have enough sense to avoid over reaching and there are a couple of moderates who are willing to torpedo the entire Party.If you believe its only going to cost 3.5 trillion.
https://fee.org/articles/wsj-biden-plan ... restimate/
And sure, who wouldn‘t like ‘free’ health care, and free college, and free pre school, and free drugs, and free this, and free that.
Maybe they should ask how many people would like to have double digit inflation while they’re at it.


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File this under: DUH
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white- ... 021-10-14/A White House commission studying potential changes to the U.S. Supreme Court said expanding the number of justices would pose "considerable" risks and might further politicize the court, according to preliminary draft documents released on Thursday.
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Might?Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:18 am File this under: DUH
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white- ... 021-10-14/A White House commission studying potential changes to the U.S. Supreme Court said expanding the number of justices would pose "considerable" risks and might further politicize the court, according to preliminary draft documents released on Thursday.
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Yeah...I laughed at that. MIGHT? It would most certainly have that effect.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:31 amMight?Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:18 am File this under: DUH
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Is that enough to use "might" or did they use it because they didn't want Biden to get mad and throw his pudding at them?
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Can kalmy, Raul and the other blue dogs at least agree that since FDR wasn't able to pack the SC in his @15 years, that FJB shouldn't be able to ram it down our throat??
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Brilliant.Winterborn wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:34 amTwo of my brothers and myself have our HAZMAT trucking licenses and both brothers houses are heated via propane to heat. They bought a 1500 gallon and 2000 gallon Anhydrous Ammonia tank and switched out the plumbing to fittings compliant with propane (bought used and saved a bunch of money). Then they went out and bought 3500 gallons of propane under a bulk/business rate (received a very, very good price) to fill up their tanks for the next two years. Plus we have a semi-tanker trailer that is set up for hauling propane (11k gallons) if we ever want to fill it up.HI54UNI wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:32 am
It's going to be ugly this winter. I think the article underestimates the price increases. 50% increase is going to be the minimum. In many cases I think you will see them double compared to last winter. Glad I locked in a propane contract last August as soon as we got a signed purchase agreement on our new house rather than wait until we closed last week.![]()

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Politicians, and their support, never try to give a definitive answer. Makes it easier to twist the words to what they need them to mean at the moment.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:31 amMight?Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:18 am File this under: DUH
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white- ... 021-10-14/
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That commission was just top cover to keep the far left flank off their asses for a few months.Ibanez wrote:File this under: DUH
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white- ... 021-10-14/A White House commission studying potential changes to the U.S. Supreme Court said expanding the number of justices would pose "considerable" risks and might further politicize the court, according to preliminary draft documents released on Thursday.
Hell I wish the proggies would keep beating that drum.
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Uh...why do you think I posted the article and link, Andy?


I have stated multiple times that packing the court is stupid and shouldn't be attempted or thought of.
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You're forgetting that it's all politics. Anything and everything is either good/bad depending on where you are in the majority/minority.CID1990 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:31 amThat commission was just top cover to keep the far left flank off their asses for a few months.
Hell I wish the proggies would keep beating that drum.
I love how the left had tantrums over “respect for institutions” while Trump was in office, and yet they seem to have the biggest problems with those very institutions
SCOTUS
Rule of law
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1st Amendment
Bernie Sanders and his ideas of how the Senate should work
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On another note...WTH is the Executive Branch doing trying to mess with the Judicial in this way?
And did they really need need a commission to tell them that a political maneuver like packing the court was a bad idea?
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Because they were responding to progressive calls to pack the court following the Comey-Barrett appointment. Biden had to shore up his left flank and this was the easy way to put them off for a few months after the election.Ibanez wrote:You're forgetting that it's all politics. Anything and everything is either good/bad depending on where you are in the majority/minority.CID1990 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:31 am That commission was just top cover to keep the far left flank off their asses for a few months.
Hell I wish the proggies would keep beating that drum.
I love how the left had tantrums over “respect for institutions” while Trump was in office, and yet they seem to have the biggest problems with those very institutions
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On another note...WTH is the Executive Branch doing trying to mess with the Judicial in this way?
And did they really need need a commission to tell them that a political maneuver like packing the court was a bad idea?
As for why the WH would get involved at all - expanding the court would be a legislative matter and the President would have to sign.
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Biden: promises a return to bipartisanship and sanity
Congress: makes Bernie the chair of the Senate Budget Cte (LAWL)
This is how tone-deaf and dumb the socialists are:
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CID1990 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:24 am Biden: promises a return to bipartisanship and sanity
Congress: makes Bernie the chair of the Senate Budget Cte (LAWL)
This is how tone-deaf and dumb the socialists are:
https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2021/ ... st-n422801
Sanders relies heavily on class divisions and scapegoating capitalism. In short, Republicans are bad. It’s ironic that Bernie is such a hypocrite about wealth and capitalism. He owns three homes and enjoys a very comfortable life thanks to capitalism. The man has never held a real job in his adult life. He’s a career politician.

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"Self-declared independent socialist".UNI88 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:34 amCID1990 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:24 am Biden: promises a return to bipartisanship and sanity
Congress: makes Bernie the chair of the Senate Budget Cte (LAWL)
This is how tone-deaf and dumb the socialists are:
https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2021/ ... st-n422801Sanders relies heavily on class divisions and scapegoating capitalism. In short, Republicans are bad. It’s ironic that Bernie is such a hypocrite about wealth and capitalism. He owns three homes and enjoys a very comfortable life thanks to capitalism. The man has never held a real job in his adult life. He’s a career politician.

That article made me laugh and while Manchin and I probably disagree on quite a few things, I am rooting for him. He has a way with words.

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Well, at least Biden doesn’t suggest the DoJ to do his bidding the way Trump did.
Oh wait...
https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/10/ ... as-n422885
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Merrick Garland is Joe Biden’s lapdog.CID1990 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:08 pm Well, at least Biden doesn’t suggest the DoJ to do his bidding the way Trump did.
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Thank God they kept that assclown off SCOTUS.
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It’s like this piece was written by a real Karen.CID1990 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:24 am Biden: promises a return to bipartisanship and sanity
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Bernie last week decried people not knowing what’s in the bill as well.
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Yeah, I’m sure your man Bernie has read every line of it.kalm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:18 pmIt’s like this piece was written by a real Karen.CID1990 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:24 am Biden: promises a return to bipartisanship and sanity
Congress: makes Bernie the chair of the Senate Budget Cte (LAWL)
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https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2021/ ... st-n422801
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Bernie last week decried people not knowing what’s in the bill as well.
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The people that haven't finished writing the bill are complaining that the press isn't telling people what's in an incomplete bill and that people don't know what's in an incomplete bill. Is it people's fault for not knowing? The press' fault for not telling them? Or the politicians' fault for expecting people to support an incomplete bill?kalm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:18 pmIt’s like this piece was written by a real Karen.CID1990 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:24 am Biden: promises a return to bipartisanship and sanity
Congress: makes Bernie the chair of the Senate Budget Cte (LAWL)
This is how tone-deaf and dumb the socialists are:
https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2021/ ... st-n422801![]()
Bernie last week decried people not knowing what’s in the bill as well.
Bernie, Nancy, et all are the Karens here.
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