The Official "Making America Woke Again" Thread

[Winterborn]

NOT the Onion or Babylon Bee....
Legislation introduced in the House to make make white people criticizing minorities a federal crime.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/01/16 ... me-n689270

Didn't Canada do something of the same but with pronouns?

[UNI88]

Not sure but if African American studies is contrary to Florida law then shouldn't AP European History be contrary as well? Maybe the College Board should stop offering that exam to Florida students.

Depends on what is in the text. If it is based on the 1619 project and it's other crap spin offs, then good riddance.

That said I would much rather local action be taken than State.

You know how I feel about the 1619 project and CRT but think about all of the Karens in Florida flipping out if the College Board canceled AP European History exams this spring because they wanted to make sure they were in compliance with Florida law.

[kalm]

Depends on what is in the text. If it is based on the 1619 project and it's other crap spin offs, then good riddance.

That said I would much rather local action be taken than State.

You know how I feel about the 1619 project and CRT but think about all of the Karens in Florida flipping out if the College Board canceled AP European History exams this spring because they wanted to make sure they were in compliance with Florida law.

The curriculum comes from the national College Board. I don’t know where they stand on 1619 and CRT but you’d think other states with College Board curriculum would be banning it too.

Question…since this high school senior education, at what age is it appropriate to teach differing perspectives/theories on history? And isn’t DeSantis doing similar things at the college level?

[UNI88]

You know how I feel about the 1619 project and CRT but think about all of the Karens in Florida flipping out if the College Board canceled AP European History exams this spring because they wanted to make sure they were in compliance with Florida law.

The curriculum comes from the national College Board. I don’t know where they stand on 1619 and CRT but you’d think other states with College Board curriculum would be banning it too.

Question…since this high school senior education, at what age is it appropriate to teach differing perspectives/theories on history? And isn’t DeSantis doing similar things at the college level?

Pilot: AP African American Studies

The interdisciplinary course reaches into a variety of fields—literature, the arts and humanities, political science, geography, and science—to explore the vital contributions and experiences of African Americans. 

“A solid understanding of how African Americans have shaped America, its history, laws, institutions, culture and arts, and even the current practice of American democracy, sharpens all knowledge about our nation.”

—Dr. Nikki Taylor, Chair of the Howard University History Department

IMO:

• There is a difference between teaching about an ethnic group's contributions to the country and their fields and teaching a theoretical and biased version of history as fact (1619 and CRT).
• An African American Studies class is fine as long as the student has already taken basic American history classes first.
• African American contributions to American history, literature, etc. should be a included in the basic classes.

[kalm]

The curriculum comes from the national College Board. I don’t know where they stand on 1619 and CRT but you’d think other states with College Board curriculum would be banning it too.

Question…since this high school senior education, at what age is it appropriate to teach differing perspectives/theories on history? And isn’t DeSantis doing similar things at the college level?

Pilot: AP African American Studies

The interdisciplinary course reaches into a variety of fields—literature, the arts and humanities, political science, geography, and science—to explore the vital contributions and experiences of African Americans. 

“A solid understanding of how African Americans have shaped America, its history, laws, institutions, culture and arts, and even the current practice of American democracy, sharpens all knowledge about our nation.”

—Dr. Nikki Taylor, Chair of the Howard University History Department

IMO:

• There is a difference between teaching about an ethnic group's contributions to the country and their fields and teaching a theoretical and biased version of history as fact (1619 and CRT).
• An African American Studies class is fine as long as the student has already taken basic American history classes first.
• African American contributions to American history, literature, etc. should be a included in the basic classes.

But where do you draw the line? Can we teach about the Whiskey rebellion but not the Nat Turner Rebellion?

And since this the woke thread, what about the North Dakota proposal to ban the use of personal gender pronouns?

[UNI88]

Pilot: AP African American Studies

IMO:

• There is a difference between teaching about an ethnic group's contributions to the country and their fields and teaching a theoretical and biased version of history as fact (1619 and CRT).
• An African American Studies class is fine as long as the student has already taken basic American history classes first.
• African American contributions to American history, literature, etc. should be a included in the basic classes.

But where do you draw the line? Can we teach about the Whiskey rebellion but not the Nat Turner Rebellion?

And since this the woke thread, what about the North Dakota proposal to ban the use of personal gender pronouns?

Why can't you teach about both?

The North Dakota proposal was rejected and I don't think it would have stood constitutional muster. You shouldn't be able to punish someone for telling you their preferred pronouns just like you shouldn't be able to punish someone for not using them after they've been told.

[kalm]

But where do you draw the line? Can we teach about the Whiskey rebellion but not the Nat Turner Rebellion?

And since this the woke thread, what about the North Dakota proposal to ban the use of personal gender pronouns?

Why can't you teach about both?

The North Dakota proposal was rejected and I don't think it would have stood constitutional muster. You shouldn't be able to punish someone for telling you their preferred pronouns just like you shouldn't be able to punish someone for not using them after they've been told.

We completely agree here.

I could be mistaken but it seems like DeSantis’s law would prohibit the teaching of the Nat Turner Rebellion.

[UNI88]

Why can't you teach about both?

The North Dakota proposal was rejected and I don't think it would have stood constitutional muster. You shouldn't be able to punish someone for telling you their preferred pronouns just like you shouldn't be able to punish someone for not using them after they've been told.

We completely agree here.

I could be mistaken but it seems like DeSantis’s law would prohibit the teaching of the Nat Turner Rebellion.

Can they teach about slavery or the Civil War? Can they teach European History (a current AP course) which is white oriented?

[kalm]

We completely agree here.

I could be mistaken but it seems like DeSantis’s law would prohibit the teaching of the Nat Turner Rebellion.

Can they teach about slavery or the Civil War? Can they teach European History (a current AP course) which is white oriented?

I don’t know. It sounds like if those teachings cause the student guilt as deemed by the state, slavery and the Civil War should not be taught.

I don’t know about Europe. It would seem to be fine.

[UNI88]

Can they teach about slavery or the Civil War? Can they teach European History (a current AP course) which is white oriented?

I don’t know. It sounds like if those teachings cause the student guilt as deemed by the state, slavery and the Civil War should not be taught.

I don’t know about Europe. It would seem to be fine.

European History is almost exclusively white history and might make African American and Asian American students feel inadequate. I think it needs to be dropped. Or is the Florida law only meant to protect white snowflakes?

[BDKJMU]

For anyone who hasn't seen the story, a Philadelphia Flyers hockey player, Ivan Provorov (Russian?) refuses to wear & use a rainbow colored jersey and hockey stick as part of the teams 'Pride Night' festivities, citing his (I think it was Russian Orthodox) religion. Of course there's the predictable response from the woke, left wing sports media, who went all Seinfeld ribbon on the guy.


Provorov gets the last laugh.

[kalm]

I don’t know. It sounds like if those teachings cause the student guilt as deemed by the state, slavery and the Civil War should not be taught.

I don’t know about Europe. It would seem to be fine.

European History is almost exclusively white history and might make African American and Asian American students feel inadequate. I think it needs to be dropped. Or is the Florida law only meant to protect white snowflakes?

Excellent point! But you’ve never heard of black Irish or black Norwegians? They matter too.

[Baldy]

For anyone who hasn't seen the story, a Philadelphia Flyers hockey player, Ivan Provorov (Russian?) refuses to wear & use a rainbow colored jersey and hockey stick as part of the teams 'Pride Night' festivities, citing his (I think it was Russian Orthodox) religion. Of course there's the predictable response from the woke, left wing sports media, who went all Seinfeld ribbon on the guy.


Provorov gets the last laugh.

Does anyone else find it strange that the Rainbow Mafia are more outraged by a hockey player not wearing a Pride jersey than they are at a gay couple who were caught molesting and pimping out their kids?

Gay Couple Charged With Molesting and Pimping Out Their Sons

According to a recent report, a same-sex couple from Georgia is accused of sexually abusing their adopted sons and producing child pornography with them. Additionally, they are alleged to have prostituted the boys to a group of pedophiles in their community.

An investigation conducted over several months by Townhall has uncovered allegations that William Dale Zulock, aged 33, and Zachary Jacoby Zulock, aged 35, used social media platforms to engage in the prostitution of their two young sons, who are of elementary school age.

[BDKJMU]

For anyone who hasn't seen the story, a Philadelphia Flyers hockey player, Ivan Provorov (Russian?) refuses to wear & use a rainbow colored jersey and hockey stick as part of the teams 'Pride Night' festivities, citing his (I think it was Russian Orthodox) religion. Of course there's the predictable response from the woke, left wing sports media, who went all Seinfeld ribbon on the guy.


Provorov gets the last laugh.

Does anyone else find it strange that the Rainbow Mafia are more outraged by a hockey player not wearing a Pride jersey than they are at a gay couple who were caught molesting and pimping out their kids?

Gay Couple Charged With Molesting and Pimping Out Their Sons

According to a recent report, a same-sex couple from Georgia is accused of sexually abusing their adopted sons and producing child pornography with them. Additionally, they are alleged to have prostituted the boys to a group of pedophiles in their community.

An investigation conducted over several months by Townhall has uncovered allegations that William Dale Zulock, aged 33, and Zachary Jacoby Zulock, aged 35, used social media platforms to engage in the prostitution of their two young sons, who are of elementary school age.

Or about a runaway 14 year old girl who was sex trafficked a 2nd time because leftist, woke, Baltimore bureaucrats refused to return her to her home state because they accused her parents of “misgendering” her..
https://www.dailywire.com/news/maryland ... other-says

[UNI88]

Florida rejects AP African American course that contained elements of CRT, 'Black Queer Studies'

A section of the course, titled "African American Studies: Movements and Methods," includes a lesson on "Black Queer Studies" that teaches students about "the concept of the queer of color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies toward racial analysis," according to the syllabus.

Kimberlé Crenshaw developed the framework for Critical Race Theory and coined the term "intersectionality," according to the Association of American Law Schools.

[Baldy]

Taibbi, Greenwald....now Maher.

[kalm]

Taibbi, Greenwald....now Maher.

Ah yes, because respecting someone’s (and corporate policies) preferred harmless identification is frightening and confusing to the point where Imma gonna change economic beliefs.

Run!

[Baldy]

Taibbi, Greenwald....now Maher.

Ah yes, because respecting someone’s (and corporate policies) preferred harmless identification is frightening and confusing to the point where Imma gonna change economic beliefs.

Run!

"Harmless"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transgende ... urgeon-uk/
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2021/oc ... hroom-case
https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/transgend ... -prisoner/
https://news.wttw.com/2020/02/19/lawsui ... der-inmate
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 89366.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7197153/t ... s-in-jail/

[kalm]

Ah yes, because respecting someone’s (and corporate policies) preferred harmless identification is frightening and confusing to the point where Imma gonna change economic beliefs.

Run!

"Harmless"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transgende ... urgeon-uk/
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2021/oc ... hroom-case
https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/transgend ... -prisoner/
https://news.wttw.com/2020/02/19/lawsui ... der-inmate
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 89366.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7197153/t ... s-in-jail/

Wait! Transgender people can commit crimes and can be fucked up just like non-transgender people?!?

Whoa!

[BDKJMU]

Taibbi, Greenwald....now Maher.

Ah yes, because respecting someone’s (and corporate policies) preferred harmless identification is frightening and confusing to the point where Imma gonna change economic beliefs.

Run!

Its not harmless when the left doesn’t respect people’s decison not to acknowledge that a woman pretending to be a man is a man and vice versa, and tries to brainwash kids with you can be whatever sex you want to be.

[BDKJMU]

Taibbi, Greenwald....now Maher.

Ah yes, because respecting someone’s (and corporate policies) preferred harmless identification is frightening and confusing to the point where Imma gonna change economic beliefs.

Run!

So you clearly think people can pick their sex. Is it ok for people to pick their race, too?

[kalm]

Ah yes, because respecting someone’s (and corporate policies) preferred harmless identification is frightening and confusing to the point where Imma gonna change economic beliefs.

Run!

So you clearly think people can pick their sex. Is it ok for people to pick their race, too?

Yes. They can identify however they want. I might think it strange but it’s none of my fucking business as long as they’re not harming me and taking away someone else’s rights.

Why do you hate America?

[kalm]

Ah yes, because respecting someone’s (and corporate policies) preferred harmless identification is frightening and confusing to the point where Imma gonna change economic beliefs.

Run!

Its not harmless when the left doesn’t respect people’s decison not to acknowledge that a woman pretending to be a man is a man and vice versa, and tries to brainwash kids with you can be whatever sex you want to be.

[UNI88]

So you clearly think people can pick their sex. Is it ok for people to pick their race, too?

Yes. They can identify however they want. I might think it strange but it’s none of my fucking business as long as they’re not harming me and taking away someone else’s rights.

Why do you hate America?

I don't disagree with you with regard to adults.

I also think there is a difference between the psychology of how someone identifies and biology (i.e. science). Why do you hate science?

"I spent 3 decades on TV mocking Republicans who said climate change was just a theory and now I've got to deal with people who say you know what else it just a theory? Biology."

[houndawg]

Yes. They can identify however they want. I might think it strange but it’s none of my fucking business as long as they’re not harming me and taking away someone else’s rights.

Why do you hate America?

I don't disagree with you with regard to adults.

I also think there is a difference between the psychology of how someone identifies and biology (i.e. science). Why do you hate science?

"I spent 3 decades on TV mocking Republicans who said climate change was just a theory and now I've got to deal with people who say you know what else it just a theory? Biology."

They can call themselves whatever the fuck they want to.

They can believe the world is controlled by an invisible man in the sky if they want to.

The Pagans got it right - "that ye harm no other, do what ye will"