The Official "Making America Woke Again" Thread

[Winterborn]

My guess is that it will not and it will pick up.

Until both sides and the media learn to be something other than dishonest grade school kids. This will slowly keep ratcheting up.

Emotions are the baser reactions that are being appealed to and by far the easier to manipulate.

To clarify…It will be a shit show until after the 2024 election. Then either a rebirth or a slide into chaos. I hope you’re wrong.

I hope I am wrong as well.

[houndawg]

To clarify…It will be a shit show until after the 2024 election. Then either a rebirth or a slide into chaos. I hope you’re wrong.

I hope I am wrong as well.

It will depend on which country you live in - Israel for example seems to take their democracy fairly seriously

[UNI88]

The parent of a transgender child asks: What about my parental rights?

I am the parent of a transgender child. I should have the fundamental right to determine what is in the best interests of my child's health and education. HB 1421 & SB 254 that ban gender-affirming medical care for minors (and put conditions on medical care for adults), HB 1403/SB 1580, "Protections of Medical Conscience," and HB 1223/HB 1069/SB 1320, which expands legislation related to Educational Institutions and Instruction Requirements will all have the same impact. They undermine my parental authority.
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There have always been and always will be transgender people, including children. Aren’t decisions about their individualized care best made by their parents? Why is the state looking to make some parents second-class citizens when it comes to parental rights? I urge you to contact your state legislators and ask them to vote no on these bills.

[kalm]

I hope I am wrong as well.

It will depend on which country you live in - Israel for example seems to take their democracy fairly seriously

Yep! As does France.

[BDKJMU]

The parent of a transgender child asks: What about my parental rights?

I am the parent of a transgender child. I should have the fundamental right to determine what is in the best interests of my child's health and education. HB 1421 & SB 254 that ban gender-affirming medical care for minors (and put conditions on medical care for adults), HB 1403/SB 1580, "Protections of Medical Conscience," and HB 1223/HB 1069/SB 1320, which expands legislation related to Educational Institutions and Instruction Requirements will all have the same impact. They undermine my parental authority.
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There have always been and always will be transgender people, including children. Aren’t decisions about their individualized care best made by their parents? Why is the state looking to make some parents second-class citizens when it comes to parental rights? I urge you to contact your state legislators and ask them to vote no on these bills.

Why do I have this feeling that this parent is fine with mandatory vaccines for kids..

Gender affirming medical care? The left has tried to move the defintion from sex change surgery to gender transition care to gender affirming care. Call it what it is- gender mutilation. A parent doesn’t have the right to to have gender mutilation performed on their kid (or pumping them full of puberty blockers) any more than they have the right to beat their kid.

[Baldy]

The parent of a transgender child asks: What about my parental rights?

I am the parent of a transgender child. I should have the fundamental right to determine what is in the best interests of my child's health and education. HB 1421 & SB 254 that ban gender-affirming medical care for minors (and put conditions on medical care for adults), HB 1403/SB 1580, "Protections of Medical Conscience," and HB 1223/HB 1069/SB 1320, which expands legislation related to Educational Institutions and Instruction Requirements will all have the same impact. They undermine my parental authority.
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There have always been and always will be transgender people, including children. Aren’t decisions about their individualized care best made by their parents? Why is the state looking to make some parents second-class citizens when it comes to parental rights? I urge you to contact your state legislators and ask them to vote no on these bills.

"...but what about my right to abuse and mutilate my child?", is quite the take.

[UNI88]

The parent of a transgender child asks: What about my parental rights?

"...but what about my right to abuse and mutilate my child?", is quite the take.

If a child is truly not a fit for their biological gender is it abuse and mutilation to use puberty blockers?

[Baldy]

"...but what about my right to abuse and mutilate my child?", is quite the take.

If a child is truly not a fit for their biological gender is it abuse and mutilation to use puberty blockers?

Not sure if that's a serious question, but who would be the almighty power that decides if an emotionally immature child is "truly not fit for their biological gender"?

[kalm]

If a child is truly not a fit for their biological gender is it abuse and mutilation to use puberty blockers?

Not sure if that's a serious question, but who would be the almighty power that decides if an emotionally immature child is "truly not fit for their biological gender"?

“Emotionally immature”? Thank you for the psych diagnosis Dr. Baldy!

[Baldy]

Not sure if that's a serious question, but who would be the almighty power that decides if an emotionally immature child is "truly not fit for their biological gender"?

“Emotionally immature”? Thank you for the psych diagnosis Dr. Baldy!

It isn't a psych diagnosis. Some more than others, but all children are immature...emotionally, mentally, physically, psychologically, etc. It's a part of the human condition.

It's not that hard to understand.

[kalm]

“Emotionally immature”? Thank you for the psych diagnosis Dr. Baldy!

It isn't a psych diagnosis. Some more than others, but all children are immature...emotionally, mentally, physically, psychologically, etc. It's a part of the human condition.

It's not that hard to understand.

My bad.

You qualified it. “Emotionally immature child”. Are their emotionally mature children? That’s how I read it…as in emotionally immature for a child. So yes, Dr. Baldy, all children are emotionally immature.

Until what age?

[Baldy]

It isn't a psych diagnosis. Some more than others, but all children are immature...emotionally, mentally, physically, psychologically, etc. It's a part of the human condition.

It's not that hard to understand.

My bad.

You qualified it. “Emotionally immature child”. Are their emotionally mature children? That’s how I read it…as in emotionally immature for a child. So yes, Dr. Baldy, all children are emotionally immature.

Until what age?

Doesn't that depend on the child?

[UNI88]

If a child is truly not a fit for their biological gender is it abuse and mutilation to use puberty blockers?

Not sure if that's a serious question, but who would be the almighty power that decides if an emotionally immature child is "truly not fit for their biological gender"?

It is a serious question.

Who decides? If it were my child I would want those decisions to be made by me and the mother in consultation with medical and mental health experts. I would have a lot more faith in my judgement and understanding of the situation than I do in elected officials like DeSantis, government bureaucrats or the MAGAt mob that (like the illiberal mob) is attempting to force their moral agenda on everyone.

FTR, I'm not talking about surgery, I'm talking about puberty blockers the effects of which I believe can be reversed. It would have to be an extreme situation for me as a parent to even consider surgery for a pre-pubescent child.

[kalm]

Not sure if that's a serious question, but who would be the almighty power that decides if an emotionally immature child is "truly not fit for their biological gender"?

It is a serious question.

Who decides? If it were my child I would want those decisions to be made by me and the mother in consultation with medical and mental health experts. I would have a lot more faith in my judgement and understanding of the situation than I do in elected officials like DeSantis, government bureaucrats or the MAGAt mob that (like the illiberal mob) is attempting to force their moral agenda on everyone.

FTR, I'm not talking about surgery, I'm talking about puberty blockers the effects of which I believe can be reversed. It would have to be an extreme situation for me as a parent to even consider surgery for a pre-pubescent child.

All of this ^^^

[Baldy]

Not sure if that's a serious question, but who would be the almighty power that decides if an emotionally immature child is "truly not fit for their biological gender"?

It is a serious question.

Who decides? If it were my child I would want those decisions to be made by me and the mother in consultation with medical and mental health experts. I would have a lot more faith in my judgement and understanding of the situation than I do in elected officials like DeSantis, government bureaucrats or the MAGAt mob that (like the illiberal mob) is attempting to force their moral agenda on everyone.

FTR, I'm not talking about surgery, I'm talking about puberty blockers the effects of which I believe can be reversed. It would have to be an extreme situation for me as a parent to even consider surgery for a pre-pubescent child.

The effects of puberty blockers may be reversed, but mounting evidence is showing that actually reversing the effects of puberty blockers is extremely rare and taking blockers could have severe detrimental long-term effects, especially with bone and brain development (not to mention losing the ability to function sexually as an adult). It's to the point that very progressive countries like Sweden, Finland, the UK, and France have pulled back, some to the point of banning puberty blockers all together for underage children.

Is that a risk you'd be willing to take with your kids?

[UNI88]

It is a serious question.

Who decides? If it were my child I would want those decisions to be made by me and the mother in consultation with medical and mental health experts. I would have a lot more faith in my judgement and understanding of the situation than I do in elected officials like DeSantis, government bureaucrats or the MAGAt mob that (like the illiberal mob) is attempting to force their moral agenda on everyone.

FTR, I'm not talking about surgery, I'm talking about puberty blockers the effects of which I believe can be reversed. It would have to be an extreme situation for me as a parent to even consider surgery for a pre-pubescent child.

The effects of puberty blockers may be reversed, but mounting evidence is showing that actually reversing the effects of puberty blockers is extremely rare and taking blockers could have severe detrimental long-term effects, especially with bone and brain development (not to mention losing the ability to function sexually as an adult). It's to the point that very progressive countries like Sweden, Finland, the UK, and France have pulled back, some to the point of banning puberty blockers all together for underage children.

Is that a risk you'd be willing to take with your kids?

Probably not. And I only say probably because every situation is different and I would want my child to get the care and treatment that would best prepare them for a happy, healthy and long life.

Is this about the government protecting kids or is it about a mob forcing their morals on others and to hell with the potential consequences. And there will be consequences (increased depression, suicide, etc.) to acting as if transgenderism is all in kids' heads.

[BDKJMU]

The effects of puberty blockers may be reversed, but mounting evidence is showing that actually reversing the effects of puberty blockers is extremely rare and taking blockers could have severe detrimental long-term effects, especially with bone and brain development (not to mention losing the ability to function sexually as an adult). It's to the point that very progressive countries like Sweden, Finland, the UK, and France have pulled back, some to the point of banning puberty blockers all together for underage children.

Is that a risk you'd be willing to take with your kids?

Probably not. And I only say probably because every situation is different and I would want my child to get the care and treatment that would best prepare them for a happy, healthy and long life.

Is this about the government protecting kids or is it about a mob forcing their morals on others and to hell with the potential consequences. And there will be consequences (increased depression, suicide, etc.) to acting as if transgenderism is all in kids' heads.

Sounds familiar from 2020-2022…

[UNI88]

Probably not. And I only say probably because every situation is different and I would want my child to get the care and treatment that would best prepare them for a happy, healthy and long life.

Is this about the government protecting kids or is it about a mob forcing their morals on others and to hell with the potential consequences? And there will be consequences (increased depression, suicide, etc.) to acting as if transgenderism is all in kids' heads.

Sounds familiar from 2020-2022…

I brought up depression, suicide etc. in the COVID thread back in 2020 and wasn't wrong. I don't think I'm wrong here either.

It's good that you can see the similarities between the COVID shutdown fascists and the transgender oppressor fascists.

[BDKJMU]

Sounds familiar from 2020-2022…

I brought up depression, suicide etc. in the COVID thread back in 2020 and wasn't wrong. I don't think I'm wrong here either.

It's good that you can see the similarities between the COVID shutdown fascists and the transgender oppressor fascists.

Transgender oppressor facists? Sounds like the woke trans ideologist mob.

[houndawg]

I brought up depression, suicide etc. in the COVID thread back in 2020 and wasn't wrong. I don't think I'm wrong here either.

It's good that you can see the similarities between the COVID shutdown fascists and the transgender oppressor fascists.

Transgender oppressor facists? Sounds like the woke trans ideologist mob.

What is this "woke" of which you speak?

[UNI88]

I brought up depression, suicide etc. in the COVID thread back in 2020 and wasn't wrong. I don't think I'm wrong here either.

It's good that you can see the similarities between the COVID shutdown fascists and the transgender oppressor fascists.

Transgender oppressor facists? Sounds like the woke trans ideologist mob.

Are they as bad as the evangelist pseudo-Christian mob?

[Baldy]

Transgender oppressor facists? Sounds like the woke trans ideologist mob.

Are they as bad as the evangelist pseudo-Christian mob?

Yes, but the Christian Evangelicals don't have the power.

[GannonFan]

Are they as bad as the evangelist pseudo-Christian mob?

Yes, but the Christian Evangelicals don't have the power.

Maybe not federally speaking or in terms of academia or the media, but they have power in some other areas, especially state governments.

[kalm]

Are they as bad as the evangelist pseudo-Christian mob?

Yes, but the Christian Evangelicals don't have the power.

Wait! Trans activists have more power than evangelical Christians?

How about other brands of Christianity?

[Baldy]

Yes, but the Christian Evangelicals don't have the power.

Maybe not federally speaking or in terms of academia or the media, but they have power in some other areas, especially state governments.

Only with elected officials, and their power is limited. Most every state bureaucracy is jam packed loaded with the same academia and media types.