Harry Reid's Corrupt Christmas Present

[kalm]

Yeah, down with progress! Status quo and regression are way better. Let's bring back the monarchy, landed gentry, robber barons, and the gilded age.

FOKKIN' A, KALM! YOU'RE FINALLY GETTING IT, EIU PEDIGREE AND ALL!!

I never attended Eastern Idaho University.

[Ivytalk]

FOKKIN' A, KALM! YOU'RE FINALLY GETTING IT, EIU PEDIGREE AND ALL!!

I never attended Eastern Idaho University.

You're a fan of "Eastern." What is that? Eastern Michigan? Eastern Nazarene? Come clean, DB!

[kalm]

I never attended Eastern Idaho University.

You're a fan of "Eastern." What is that? Eastern Michigan? Eastern Nazarene? Come clean, DB!

As Colin Cowherd refers to it "the Harvard of the Palouse". And know it's not either of those two lame ag schools to the south of us one of which Z attended.

[Ivytalk]

You're a fan of "Eastern." What is that? Eastern Michigan? Eastern Nazarene? Come clean, DB!

As Colin Cowherd refers to it "the Harvard of the Palouse". And know it's not either of those two lame ag schools to the south of us one of which Z attended.

That's good enough for me. Peace!

[dbackjon]

You know, the progressivism that won the independence, freed the slaves, gave women the vote, gave minorities equality.

Unfortunately, if Center-Rigth is a 10 on a scale of 1-10, the Republican Party is currently a 9.5, Democratic Leadership is a 7.

We still need a shift to the left.

Christ, dback, do you want a 0.5?

4.5 would be good.

[Ivytalk]

Christ, dback, do you want a 0.5?

4.5 would be good.

I knew it! You're a moderate!

[dbackjon]

4.5 would be good.

I knew it! You're a moderate!

Keep that down, will ya. And please don't read Joltin Joe's public school thread.

[AZGrizFan]

This is what happens when you have a bunch of looney progressives in Congress and a weak Democratic President who cannot control them.

There is not a single progressive in congress who approves of this.

Yet every single one of them voted for the bill.

[AZGrizFan]

Either that or it's greasing Baucus's palm so he can go buy more booze and embarrass himself and his entire state on C-Span.

Seriously, GATW, you know how this works.

GATW is on the money with this one. Externalize health care and pollution costs, let government pick up the pieces, and then blame government for picking up the pieces.

F. W.R. Grace

....and the other 11 states and their senators get a free pass because their bribes were less overt and not directly associated with a moveon.org talking point?

[kalm]

There is not a single progressive in congress who approves of this.

Yet every single one of them voted for the bill.

Well that's a whole other argument and I haven't looked at the votes. But just in case, you do realize that progressive doesn't = Democrat right?

If John McCain didn't have to raise a butt load of money every election cycle or whore himself out to the party to win the nomination, he might be considered progressive as well.

[kalm]

GATW is on the money with this one. Externalize health care and pollution costs, let government pick up the pieces, and then blame government for picking up the pieces.

F. W.R. Grace

....and the other 11 states and their senators get a free pass because their bribes were less overt and not directly associated with a moveon.org talking point?

So you think companies like WR Grace that pollute and directly cause health care costs and deaths from mesothelema should be subsidized by the governement?

Not much of a conservative small government guy are ya?

[kalm]

On second thought z fuck it.

This is a piece of shit bill that exemplifies all that's wrong with our political system. Unintended consequences, corporatism, political buy offs, etc.

Old Newt is just pissin' because he's not the one who gets to take credit for it.

[AZGrizFan]

....and the other 11 states and their senators get a free pass because their bribes were less overt and not directly associated with a moveon.org talking point?

So you think companies like WR Grace that pollute and directly cause health care costs and deaths from mesothelema should be subsidized by the governement?

Not much of a conservative small government guy are ya?

How do you get THAT out of my statement?

I don't think the cleanup of the WR Grace shitstain should be tied to a fucking healthcare bill as grease to get the Montana senators to vote for it. It's not the fact that it's WR Grace, or corporate America. It's the fact that senators are being BRIBED and pet PORK projects are being inserted into these bills to BUY votes and pass an otherwise useless, bloated, inefficient bill.

That doesn't seem to bother a lot of people.

[kalm]

So you think companies like WR Grace that pollute and directly cause health care costs and deaths from mesothelema should be subsidized by the governement?

Not much of a conservative small government guy are ya?

How do you get THAT out of my statement?

I don't think the cleanup of the WR Grace shitstain should be tied to a **** healthcare bill as grease to get the Montana senators to vote for it. It's not the fact that it's WR Grace, or corporate America. It's the fact that senators are being BRIBED and pet PORK projects are being inserted into these bills to BUY votes and pass an otherwise useless, bloated, inefficient bill.

That doesn't seem to bother a lot of people.

Good God you are quite the "stay on topic" Nazi.

But I agree with your above statements.

Are you with me then on campaign finance reform? That's how you fix this.

[kalm]

So you think companies like WR Grace that pollute and directly cause health care costs and deaths from mesothelema should be subsidized by the governement?

Not much of a conservative small government guy are ya?

How do you get THAT out of my statement?

I don't think the cleanup of the WR Grace shitstain should be tied to a **** healthcare bill as grease to get the Montana senators to vote for it. It's not the fact that it's WR Grace, or corporate America. It's the fact that senators are being BRIBED and pet PORK projects are being inserted into these bills to BUY votes and pass an otherwise useless, bloated, inefficient bill.

That doesn't seem to bother a lot of people.

Good God you are quite the "stay on topic" Nazi.

But I agree with your above statements.

Are you with me then on campaign finance reform? That's how you fix this.

[AZGrizFan]

How do you get THAT out of my statement?

I don't think the cleanup of the WR Grace shitstain should be tied to a **** healthcare bill as grease to get the Montana senators to vote for it. It's not the fact that it's WR Grace, or corporate America. It's the fact that senators are being BRIBED and pet PORK projects are being inserted into these bills to BUY votes and pass an otherwise useless, bloated, inefficient bill.

That doesn't seem to bother a lot of people.

Good God you are quite the "stay on topic" Nazi.

But I agree with your above statements.

Are you with me then on campaign finance reform? That's how you fix this.

on campaign finance
on McCain's "no pork" push