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I don't care much for FoF, but to call them a hate group is a huge, huge, huge reach.

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It might be a reach, it might even be a huge reach. But to call it a huge, huge, huge reach is a huge, huge overstatement.BigSkyBears wrote:I don't care much for FoF, but to call them a hate group is a huge, huge, huge reach.

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Just trying to prevent another christian conk whack off from **** up the country - again.![]()
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There's a difference between intolerance and poking fun at highly irrational people.
Replace Tebow with someone who constantly thanked space aliens or the flying spaghetti monster for his on- field success, and you would have no problem with the ridicule.
and I also hate Tebow. Just throwing that out there
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Only in America can a group with power, money, etc, that uses that power and money to OPPRESS another group of Americans with hatred, scorn, and political repression, when called out on that repression, claim to be "victims of hatred" themselves.
FoF has spent tens of millions repressing, terrorizing and working to deny equality to Gay Americans.
They are no different in their agenda than than white supremist groups are. Both lead to misery, suffering and yes, even death (suicide rate among gays whose parents are "evangelicals" is extremely high, suicide rate among gay teens who go through "gay conversion therapy", as espoused by groups such as FoF is astronomical.
FoF also has close ties to the "Death to Gays' Ugandans.
So yes, they are a hate group.
FoF has spent tens of millions repressing, terrorizing and working to deny equality to Gay Americans.
They are no different in their agenda than than white supremist groups are. Both lead to misery, suffering and yes, even death (suicide rate among gays whose parents are "evangelicals" is extremely high, suicide rate among gay teens who go through "gay conversion therapy", as espoused by groups such as FoF is astronomical.
FoF also has close ties to the "Death to Gays' Ugandans.
So yes, they are a hate group.

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dbackjon wrote:Only in America can a group with power, money, etc, that uses that power and money to OPPRESS another group of Americans with hatred, scorn, and political repression, when called out on that repression, claim to be "victims of hatred" themselves.
FoF has spent tens of millions repressing, terrorizing and working to deny equality to Gay Americans.
They are no different in their agenda than than white supremist groups are. Both lead to misery, suffering and yes, even death (suicide rate among gays whose parents are "evangelicals" is extremely high, suicide rate among gay teens who go through "gay conversion therapy", as espoused by groups such as FoF is astronomical.
FoF also has close ties to the "Death to Gays' Ugandans.
So yes, they are a hate group.
Good luck with having them designated as such. Until then, it is your opinion, which you are entitled to.
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What's the divorce, alcoholism or suicide rate on parent's of gay kids? & do we blame the gay organizations for those rates? I don't respect Dobson or FoF, but blaming them for suicides is a bit of a reach & discredits your other valid claims IMO..dbackjon wrote:Only in America can a group with power, money, etc, that uses that power and money to OPPRESS another group of Americans with hatred, scorn, and political repression, when called out on that repression, claim to be "victims of hatred" themselves.
FoF has spent tens of millions repressing, terrorizing and working to deny equality to Gay Americans.
They are no different in their agenda than than white supremist groups are. Both lead to misery, suffering and yes, even death (suicide rate among gays whose parents are "evangelicals" is extremely high, suicide rate among gay teens who go through "gay conversion therapy", as espoused by groups such as FoF is astronomical.
FoF also has close ties to the "Death to Gays' Ugandans.
So yes, they are a hate group.

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Don't go throwing logic into this now, Appaholic.Appaholic wrote:What's the divorce, alcoholism or suicide rate on parent's of gay kids? & do we blame the gay organizations for those rates? I don't respect Dobson or FoF, but blaming them for suicides is a bit of a reach & discredits your other valid claims IMO..dbackjon wrote:Only in America can a group with power, money, etc, that uses that power and money to OPPRESS another group of Americans with hatred, scorn, and political repression, when called out on that repression, claim to be "victims of hatred" themselves.
FoF has spent tens of millions repressing, terrorizing and working to deny equality to Gay Americans.
They are no different in their agenda than than white supremist groups are. Both lead to misery, suffering and yes, even death (suicide rate among gays whose parents are "evangelicals" is extremely high, suicide rate among gay teens who go through "gay conversion therapy", as espoused by groups such as FoF is astronomical.
FoF also has close ties to the "Death to Gays' Ugandans.
So yes, they are a hate group.
Don't you know that FoF, GWB, the Pope, conservatives, climate change doubters and COL Sanders are all de Debbil?
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Eh, you know what will happen. They won't allow the commercial after all, then Focus on Your Own Damn Family will whine to the media about how they are SO persecuted, ensuing they receive more attention than the original spot would. 





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The Bible itself is pretty clear that homosexuality is a sin. Does that make the Bible a book full of hate?
PS - I also understand that we are to love sinners, just hate the sin. Something I try to live by every day.
PS - I also understand that we are to love sinners, just hate the sin. Something I try to live by every day.

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Sometimes Jon's passion gets the best of him.BigSkyBears wrote:CID1990 wrote:
Jon, when you refer to any group that doesn't dovetail with your own personal value system a "Hate" group (with the capital H), you lessen your own stance because people tend to not take you seriously. It makes you the Hugo Chavez of CS.com.
Its like decising that Obama is center right simply because he didn't turn out to be the Messiah to gays.
Couldn't agree more Cid. Dbackjon is the one who hates.
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BigSkyBears wrote:The Bible itself is pretty clear that homosexuality is a sin. Does that make the Bible a book full of hate?
PS - I also understand that we are to love sinners, just hate the sin. Something I try to live by every day.
Dumbfuck, have you ever read the bible beyond the toothfairy bullshit your preacher reads to you? It iis filled with hate, murder, mistreatment of fellow humans, jealousy, rape, genocide, infanticide, theft and every other kind of malice under the sun.
Wake the fuck up dick head.

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native wrote:Sometimes Jon's passion gets the best of him.BigSkyBears wrote:
Couldn't agree more Cid. Dbackjon is the one who hates.
Put yourself in his shoes, asswipe.

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native wrote:Sometimes Jon's passion gets the best of him.BigSkyBears wrote:
Couldn't agree more Cid. Dbackjon is the one who hates.
Put yourself in his shoes, asswipe.

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I see that people are making it over from AGS.........BigSkyBears wrote:The Bible itself is pretty clear that homosexuality is a sin. Does that make the Bible a book full of hate?
PS - I also understand that we are to love sinners, just hate the sin. Something I try to live by every day.

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"Passion"????native wrote:Sometimes Jon's passion gets the best of him.

More like life experience and everyday observations.
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I have read the Bible. It's the greatest love story ever written.D1B wrote:BigSkyBears wrote:The Bible itself is pretty clear that homosexuality is a sin. Does that make the Bible a book full of hate?
PS - I also understand that we are to love sinners, just hate the sin. Something I try to live by every day.
****, have you ever read the bible beyond the toothfairy bullshit your preacher reads to you? It iis filled with hate, murder, mistreatment of fellow humans, jealousy, rape, genocide, infanticide, theft and every other kind of malice under the sun.
Wake the **** up dick head.

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For such a die hard liberal you sure are intolerant.D1B wrote:BigSkyBears wrote:The Bible itself is pretty clear that homosexuality is a sin. Does that make the Bible a book full of hate?
PS - I also understand that we are to love sinners, just hate the sin. Something I try to live by every day.
****, have you ever read the bible beyond the toothfairy bullshit your preacher reads to you? It iis filled with hate, murder, mistreatment of fellow humans, jealousy, rape, genocide, infanticide, theft and every other kind of malice under the sun.
Wake the **** up dick head.

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He's not necessarily liberal. They just haven't come up with a party for him yet.BigSkyBears wrote:For such a die hard liberal you sure are intolerant.D1B wrote:
****, have you ever read the bible beyond the toothfairy bullshit your preacher reads to you? It iis filled with hate, murder, mistreatment of fellow humans, jealousy, rape, genocide, infanticide, theft and every other kind of malice under the sun.
Wake the **** up dick head.
If they did, it would be called the Contrarian Party.
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Intolerant of what?BigSkyBears wrote:For such a die hard liberal you sure are intolerant.D1B wrote:
****, have you ever read the bible beyond the toothfairy bullshit your preacher reads to you? It iis filled with hate, murder, mistreatment of fellow humans, jealousy, rape, genocide, infanticide, theft and every other kind of malice under the sun.
Wake the **** up dick head.
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No, it is not a reach. Do a little research. Spend time with gay kids who's parents put them through the "gay conversion" camps. See how fucked up these kids get from the pressure to become something they are not.Appaholic wrote:What's the divorce, alcoholism or suicide rate on parent's of gay kids? & do we blame the gay organizations for those rates? I don't respect Dobson or FoF, but blaming them for suicides is a bit of a reach & discredits your other valid claims IMO..dbackjon wrote:Only in America can a group with power, money, etc, that uses that power and money to OPPRESS another group of Americans with hatred, scorn, and political repression, when called out on that repression, claim to be "victims of hatred" themselves.
FoF has spent tens of millions repressing, terrorizing and working to deny equality to Gay Americans.
They are no different in their agenda than than white supremist groups are. Both lead to misery, suffering and yes, even death (suicide rate among gays whose parents are "evangelicals" is extremely high, suicide rate among gay teens who go through "gay conversion therapy", as espoused by groups such as FoF is astronomical.
FoF also has close ties to the "Death to Gays' Ugandans.
So yes, they are a hate group.

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Christians.D1B wrote:Intolerant of what?BigSkyBears wrote:
For such a die hard liberal you sure are intolerant.

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What kind of "Christians"?BigSkyBears wrote:Christians.D1B wrote:
Intolerant of what?

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Christians like Tim tebow. Christians who just want to live a life like Christ's.mainejeff wrote:What kind of "Christians"?BigSkyBears wrote:
Christians.

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I'm pretty sure Jesus would have gone pro after winning the Heisman.BigSkyBears wrote:Christians like Tim tebow. Christians who just want to live a life like Christ's.mainejeff wrote:
What kind of "Christians"?

Do you think Jesus would thank himself after scoring a TD?

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Ahh yes.......of course.BigSkyBears wrote:Christians like Tim tebow. Christians who just want to live a life like Christ's.mainejeff wrote:
What kind of "Christians"?
Tim Tebow.......meet Mary Magdalene.



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