That's the thing about me Native. My opinions are not influenced one way or another based on what anyone else thinks. He was bound to get one right at some point.native wrote:Yup.SuperHornet wrote:This is completely wrong on all accounts.
You don't cancel the prom. You don't banish ANYONE from the prom. You let them in. You chaperone PDAs (single gender and duo-gender alike). If they don't listen, you QUIETLY ask them to leave. And make it visible that that chaperoning is going both ways.
As it is, they've opened themselves up to the biggest lawsuit known to man.
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Goverment is not "imposing itself." It is a recreational event people can choose to come to. There were rules (and my understanding is that the rules pre-dated this incident). If an individual does not like the rules, they can opt not to go. No government agent is going to show up at their door and drag them to the event. And anybody can go if they choose to follow the rules. There is no "imposition" on anybody at all.the difference here is that government is hosting the party and imposing itself on those who don't share its values
The imposition in this case is clearly on the part of the girl, the ACLU, and potentially (probably) the Federal court. That's where the "pushing somebody else around" is coming from and going to come from.
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No. This is happening because one sick little girl decided she wanted to make a statement and the ACLU, of course, is more than happy to participate in her effort.Every 18 year old senior at this school has had their prom canceled -- a night they've been waiting for for years -- because of the homophobia and bigotry of a few school leaders.
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No. The villains are the homophobes who cancelled the prom. You post the same crap all the time; you think that it's not discrimination because it agrees with your point of view.JohnStOnge wrote:The villian here is the girl who decided to push it. And it's a sad commentary on the State of American culture that most people are acting as though the School Board is the one in the wrong in this case.
Same old same old. There was no discrimination. The girl had the opportunity to do the same thing every other person was offered the opportunity to do: Attend the prom with a member of the opposite sex.
The fact that she'd prefer to attend the prom with a member of the same sex does not mean she was being discriminated against.
The girl is sick and the school board shouldnt be forced to accomodate her disfunction. They probably will be. Odds are they will be forced to hold a prom and forced to allow this sick little girl to flaunt her sick relationship at it. But they shouldn't be.
The girl isn't sick. Homophobes like yourself are sick.
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BlueHen86 wrote:No. The villains are the homophobes who cancelled the prom. You post the same crap all the time; you think that it's not discrimination because it agrees with your point of view.JohnStOnge wrote:The villian here is the girl who decided to push it. And it's a sad commentary on the State of American culture that most people are acting as though the School Board is the one in the wrong in this case.
Same old same old. There was no discrimination. The girl had the opportunity to do the same thing every other person was offered the opportunity to do: Attend the prom with a member of the opposite sex.
The fact that she'd prefer to attend the prom with a member of the same sex does not mean she was being discriminated against.
The girl is sick and the school board shouldnt be forced to accomodate her disfunction. They probably will be. Odds are they will be forced to hold a prom and forced to allow this sick little girl to flaunt her sick relationship at it. But they shouldn't be.
The girl isn't sick. Homophobes like yourself are sick.
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Right on!GSUAlumniEagle wrote:By all means, John. Host a private event. Host a private "prom" with a big sign out front that says "NO GAYS!". When GLAAD comes out to boycot your event, I'll be right beside you defending your right as a private citizen to do whatever the hell it is you want to do.JohnStOnge wrote:
I was probably a bit harsh with my initial comments and if I were responsible for hosting a prom I probably wouldn't have any rules at all with respect to such things. I would let people come alone. I would let them come with their friends. I would let them come with dates. I would let them wear swimsuits if they want. If there were no laws on indecent exposure (which would not exist if I had my way) I would let them come naked.
However, to me, liberty does not include the freedom to impose yourself upon others. When somebody else hosts an event that you don't have to go to they should be able to control the rules. In fact that's part of THEIR liberty. If they want to say you have to go to the event with a ring in your nose if you want to go they should be able to require that and if you don't like it don't go. You should not be able to force them to change their rules to accomodate your wishes.
And that's what's going on here. In fact, the thing that really frosts me is that in this twisted America in which the idea of "freedom" has been distorted into the concept of forcing other people to accomodate you, my understanding is that it's likely that she will actually be able to FORCE them to hold a prom now. Suppose their reason for canceling the prom is that they do not believe in what she's doing so they don't want to faciliate it. They should be free to opt not to facilitate it.
But this is a public event hosted by a public school using (at some level) taxpayers money. From that point forward, the school district loses the right to tell this young woman who she can bring to the prom. Plenty of heterosexual girls that didn't have boyfriends (and couldn't get a date) brought their "girl friends" from other schools to my high school prom. Where do you draw the line?
The party at fault here for making this a big deal is the school district. Kids are remarkably resilient and comfortable with people different than themselves nowadays. I'm willing to bet that if this young lady is willing to file a lawsuit on this issue, it wasn't exactly a secret that she was a homosexual before this issue came about. I'm sure she's probably at some level a social outcast, but the school has survived. The education process at the school has survived, and I've seen no reports of how it has been compromised due to her homosexuality. I'm sure at some level the kids moved on.
The school district made a big deal about this. And now they're not just disenfranchising this young lady, but the entire school. Every 18 year old senior at this school has had their prom canceled -- a night they've been waiting for for years -- because of the homophobia and bigotry of a few school leaders. If the kids can be in a classroom with the young lady and survive, you're telling me they won't be able to stomach watching her with a date? Puh-leeze.
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AMEN!!!kalm wrote:BlueHen86 wrote:
No. The villains are the homophobes who cancelled the prom. You post the same crap all the time; you think that it's not discrimination because it agrees with your point of view.
The girl isn't sick. Homophobes like yourself are sick.
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http://www.aclu.org/lgbt-rights/court-r ... an-student" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;ABERDEEN, MS – A Mississippi federal court today ruled that school officials violated a lesbian student’s First Amendment rights when it canceled the high school prom rather than let the student attend with her girlfriend.







