Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."

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Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
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Yet you do not deny the effectiveness of torture. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
As an interrogation technique. Not as a deterrent.

If the penalty for all felonies was life in prison with torture for 18 hours a day.... it would be a pretty effective deterrent, imo. Doesn't mean it's Constitutional or that we should consider it. But, I bet felonies would be reduced over time. :coffee:
And the losers of our society would disappear over the course of a couple years.
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Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."

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grizzaholic wrote:
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As an interrogation technique. Not as a deterrent.

If the penalty for all felonies was life in prison with torture for 18 hours a day.... it would be a pretty effective deterrent, imo. Doesn't mean it's Constitutional or that we should consider it. But, I bet felonies would be reduced over time. :coffee:
And the losers of our society would disappear over the course of a couple years.
Yup. :nod:

Doesn't make it right, though. :?
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Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
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Yeah, but lefties like you go ballistic over a little waterboarding in Gitmo.
No shit. They're fucking Russia. Stalin, Nicholas II, Russian Revolution, etc. They aren't exactly known for their humanity or the belief in liberty, justice, freedom, etc.

We're the US, if we're known for anything... it's being a bastion of liberty, justice, freedom, etc. We should hold ourselves to a higher standard. :nod:

"Oh, but the terrorists behead people! That means we should be able to torture, right?!"
"Oh, look at what the Russians did! My John Burke card carrying father would beat me beyond recognition for saying it... but, I wish our country would take after them!"
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Well, which is it? We should take after them or we should hold ourselves to higher standards? So much for principles and consistency.
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Well, which is it? We should take after them or we should hold ourselves to higher standards? So much for principles and consistency.
When did I say we should take after them? :? So much for reading comprehension. :roll:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
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Well, which is it? We should take after them or we should hold ourselves to higher standards? So much for principles and consistency.
When did I say we should take after them? :? So much for reading comprehension. :roll:
OK, Ralph.

And if you don't know who Ralph was/is, he's they guy from ags.com who would revert to the "reading comprehension" line or "reading is fundamental", and begin parsing words right after he realized he'd painted himself into a logical corner. :thumb:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
When did I say we should take after them? :? So much for reading comprehension. :roll:
OK, Ralph.

And if you don't know who Ralph was/is, he's they guy from ags.com who would revert to the "reading comprehension" line or "reading is fundamental", and begin parsing words right after he realized he'd painted himself into a logical corner. :thumb:
No fine line there, AZ.

He made it clear it would be effective, but that it wouldn't be the moral or ethical choice...

...much like birth control by abortion which I'm sure he also opposes.

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