Yeah......and half of them are now coming here to kill us.Baldy wrote:Well, I don't see people risking their lives to enter any other country in the world (legally or illegally) unless it's to come here.Skjellyfetti wrote:
So, in what way are we the "last best hope of mankind"....?
So other countries can someday hope to be us? So someday people in other countries can someday hope to live here?
Fortunately, the Republic is not bound by your personal limitations. 
Gawd, I sure hope not.
Introspection is painful but neccessary. In other words, it's ok to be an asshole, as long as you realize you're an asshole. It's the assholes who don't know they're assholes that cause most of the trouble.native wrote:You libs are a helluva depressing bunch! Self hatred and defeatism are self fulfilling prophecies. Choose life or death, greatness or worthlessness. Whatever you choose is what will be.
Cleets, you are... well, you're one of a kind. If you were half as wise and decent as you consider yourself to be clever and insightful, you would be one useful and visionary sonovagun!
Trip, what the fvck happened? Are you buying in to all this self-loathing, liberal, defeatist BS, after all?
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
So, in what way are we the "last best hope of mankind"....?
So other countries can someday hope to be us? So someday people in other countries can someday hope to live here?
Not sure about just "mankind", but the Babylon Project was touted as the last, best hope for peace.native wrote:"A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 51% of voters nationwide believe the United States is the last best hope of mankind. Twenty-six percent (26%) disagree, and 24% are not sure.
Conservatives overwhelmingly believe that the United States is the last best hope. However, by a 43% to 29% margin, liberals disagree. ..."
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Thank God for America and Americans!
And if we listened to your heroes Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Huckabee, etc, etc........we'd really be depressed!native wrote:You libs are a helluva depressing bunch! Self hatred and defeatism are self fulfilling prophecies. Choose life or death, greatness or worthlessness. Whatever you choose is what will be.
Cleets, you are... well, you're one of a kind. If you were half as wise and decent as you consider yourself to be clever and insightful, you would be one useful and visionary sonovagun!
Trip, what the fvck happened? Are you buying in to all this self-loathing, liberal, defeatist BS, after all?
You betchamainejeff wrote:And if we listened to your heroes Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Huckabee, etc, etc........we'd really be depressed!native wrote:You libs are a helluva depressing bunch! Self hatred and defeatism are self fulfilling prophecies. Choose life or death, greatness or worthlessness. Whatever you choose is what will be.
Cleets, you are... well, you're one of a kind. If you were half as wise and decent as you consider yourself to be clever and insightful, you would be one useful and visionary sonovagun!
Trip, what the fvck happened? Are you buying in to all this self-loathing, liberal, defeatist BS, after all?
The Conks and their fearless leader nativist sure seem to avoid it.JMU DJ wrote: Maybe he could answer Skelly's question.
Skjellyfetti wrote:
So, in what way are we the "last best hope of mankind"....?
So other countries can someday hope to be us? So someday people in other countries can someday hope to live here?
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset ... 010eng.pdfSkjellyfetti wrote:They do a much better job cracking down on their illegals, Hogan... you're right about that. But, if they believed they were simply on their way to the US... they wouldn't give a flying fuck about them.
They care greatly about illegals on THEIR southern border because (contrary to your assumption) the vast majority are going to Mexico for better work. These people are the poorest of the poor, Hogan. Very, very few Guatemalans and El Salvadorans could afford to get from the south of Mexico to the United States. It's expensive as fuck to hire someone to get you there.
You and Amnesty International are wrong cause jellybelly said so.89Hen wrote:http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset ... 010eng.pdfSkjellyfetti wrote:They do a much better job cracking down on their illegals, Hogan... you're right about that. But, if they believed they were simply on their way to the US... they wouldn't give a flying **** about them.
They care greatly about illegals on THEIR southern border because (contrary to your assumption) the vast majority are going to Mexico for better work. These people are the poorest of the poor, Hogan. Very, very few Guatemalans and El Salvadorans could afford to get from the south of Mexico to the United States. It's expensive as **** to hire someone to get you there.
"Every year, tens of thousands of women, men and children travel through Mexico without legal permission as irregular migrants. More than nine in every 10 are Central Americans, mostly from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras or Nicaragua. The vast majority are headed for the US border in the hope of new life far from the poverty they have left behind. Their journey is one of the most dangerous in the world."
We have TONS of illegal Central American's in this area. I'm only guessing, but I'd say most of them did not arrive here via Reagan National.
I pitched you nut cases a softball for an easy discussion on your own version of American exceptionalism, your own vision for a brighter future. Instead of hitting the ball, you lived down to the most bizzarre and ridiculous caricatures of your self-loathing and America-hating liberal loser selves.mainejeff wrote:And if we listened to your heroes Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Huckabee, etc, etc........we'd really be depressed!native wrote:You libs are a helluva depressing bunch! Self hatred and defeatism are self fulfilling prophecies. Choose life or death, greatness or worthlessness. Whatever you choose is what will be.
Cleets, you are... well, you're one of a kind. If you were half as wise and decent as you consider yourself to be clever and insightful, you would be one useful and visionary sonovagun!
Trip, what the fvck happened? Are you buying in to all this self-loathing, liberal, defeatist BS, after all?
We'll never sink lower than the CONK losers across this great nation though.native wrote:I pitched you nut cases a softball for an easy discussion on your own version of American exceptionalism, your own vision for a brighter future. Instead of hitting the ball, you lived down to the most bizzarre and ridiculous caricatures of your self-loathing and America-hating liberal loser selves.mainejeff wrote:
And if we listened to your heroes Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Huckabee, etc, etc........we'd really be depressed!
At least Cleets possesses a modicum of wit and intelligence.mainejeff wrote:We'll never sink lower than the CONK losers across this great nation though.native wrote:
I pitched you nut cases a softball for an easy discussion on your own version of American exceptionalism, your own vision for a brighter future. Instead of hitting the ball, you lived down to the most bizzarre and ridiculous caricatures of your self-loathing and America-hating liberal loser selves.
