Unless you're PFL....then the baby's just "crotch fruit" anyways....go ahead and throw it into the garbage disposal.ASUMountaineer wrote:As to abortion, I think most everyone is "pro-life." I don't think anyone WANTS to kill innocent life (as was mentioned before). I'd hate to think of being in the situation of an unwanted pregnancy.
Or Iraqi children...AZGrizFan wrote:Unless you're PFL....then the baby's just "crotch fruit" anyways....go ahead and throw it into the garbage disposal.ASUMountaineer wrote:As to abortion, I think most everyone is "pro-life." I don't think anyone WANTS to kill innocent life (as was mentioned before). I'd hate to think of being in the situation of an unwanted pregnancy.
You really need to update your "issues" list.Chizzang wrote:Or Iraqi children...AZGrizFan wrote:
Unless you're PFL....then the baby's just "crotch fruit" anyways....go ahead and throw it into the garbage disposal.
AZGrizFan wrote:You really need to update your "issues" list.Chizzang wrote:
Or Iraqi children...
There's nothing different. Just that Iraq is old news.Chizzang wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
You really need to update your "issues" list.
Explain what's different between collateral damage and abortion...?
Yeah, go with Afghanistan. It's the hot war now.AZGrizFan wrote:There's nothing different. Just that Iraq is old news.Chizzang wrote:
Explain what's different between collateral damage and abortion...?
Exactly...AZGrizFan wrote:There's nothing different. Just that Iraq is old news.Chizzang wrote:
Explain what's different between collateral damage and abortion...?
Pro-choicers want to call a baby part of a woman's body when it's not.UNHWildCats wrote:Republicans want to restrict what a woman can and cant do with their body
Exactly. Is that so friggin' hard to understand?93henfan wrote:Yeah, go with Afghanistan. It's the hot war now.AZGrizFan wrote:
There's nothing different. Just that Iraq is old news.
Newsflash: I'm pro-choice and pro-death of Iraqi children in the name of freedom.Chizzang wrote:Exactly...
By our actions or in direct consequence of our actions innocent lives are taken routinely - and then - referenced as appropriate collateral damage considering the entire situation
Therefore: I give you abortion in a free country
The consequences of and thereby rightly considered "collateral damage" of Freedom - just like Iraqi lives
a "one-to-one" correlation
Don't knock a prego if you haven't tried it yet...they're fun (as long as it's not your kid)....citdog wrote:Pwns wrote: that wants all women to be barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen.
i actually like them not pregnant, with high heels......but the kitchen part.......i'm ALL for
She's no more a murderer than a guy who flogs himself & spills his seed...it's all potential life until it's out of the womb...gotta draw the line somewhere...JohnStOnge wrote:Here's the thing:
The only reason to say that a woman can't terminate a pregnancy is that doing so means she's killing another individual. The idea is that it's not just a matter of a woman doing what she wants with her own body. Someone else's "body," someone else's existence, is involved. The point of being against allowing women to choose abortion is that when they make that choice they kill somebody else.
That being the case, there is no WAY you legitimately justify saying that abortion becomes "OK" if the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest. The unborn individual is not responsible for the action of its father. If it has a right to live, the fact that its father was a rapist or guilty of incest does not change that.
The position that abortion should be prohibited EXCEPT in cases of rape and incest is totally indefensable. Either you're killing somebody or you're not. If you are, it's wrong and it shouldn't be allowed regardless of how the conception occurred. If you're not, there's absolutely no basis for interferring with the woman's choice at all.
So you're OK with partial birth abortions.Appaholic wrote:...it's all potential life until it's out of the womb...gotta draw the line somewhere...
I'm really not OK with abortion in general, but I'm even less OK with regulating personal decisions about medical procedures that don't involve me nor my family....but that's just me.89Hen wrote:So you're OK with partial birth abortions.Appaholic wrote:...it's all potential life until it's out of the womb...gotta draw the line somewhere...
There is an easy place to draw the line. Conception. Anything after that and you're playing judge and God.
If you HONESTLY don't see a major difference...then my impression of you needs reevaluation...Chizzang wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
You really need to update your "issues" list.
Explain what's different between collateral damage and abortion...?
See my quote from above...Appaholic wrote:I'm really not OK with abortion in general, but I'm even less OK with regulating personal decisions about medical procedures that don't involve me nor my family....but that's just me.
Keep calling it a medical procedure if that makes you sleep better at night.89Hen wrote:Pro-choicers want to call a baby part of a woman's body when it's not.
If you start with the premise that the war was necessary and was our only option in dealing with the situation (never mind whether or not that's true, just humor it), then that is a totally different situation. The vast majority of abortions are not needed to save the life of the mother and the baby. On top of that, killing Iraqi civilians is accidental and is not what the military goes out to accomplish. Abortion is fully intentional. Would you call those pro-life folks that would say WWII was a necessary war hypocritical? Sorry Chizzy, but that comparison is bunk.Chizzang wrote:Exactly...AZGrizFan wrote:
There's nothing different. Just that Iraq is old news.
By our actions or in direct consequence of our actions innocent lives are taken routinely - and then - referenced as appropriate collateral damage considering the entire situation
Therefore: I give you abortion in a free country
The consequences of and thereby rightly considered "collateral damage" of Freedom - just like Iraqi lives
a "one-to-one" correlation
I sleep fine at night because I've never had to choose to be part of an abortion. But my lack of opportunity in this arena doesn't give me the right to impose upon others who, let's face it, aren't known for their good decisions (outside of rape & incest I mean). Hence the reason they even have the choice to beging with, so why force them to procreate & perpetuate this cycle? Adoption you say? When all the unwanted baby's in this world have been adopted, then we can start legislating more upon the current population. If God didn't want abortion, he wouldn't "bless" persons who don't want children with pregnancies. If God has a master plan & we are witnessing the results of this plan,,,,well, he's been given more credit than due.....89Hen wrote:See my quote from above...Appaholic wrote:I'm really not OK with abortion in general, but I'm even less OK with regulating personal decisions about medical procedures that don't involve me nor my family....but that's just me.
Keep calling it a medical procedure if that makes you sleep better at night.89Hen wrote:Pro-choicers want to call a baby part of a woman's body when it's not.
I say CHris should change the software...anytime someone types Abortion...it changes to Twinkie93henfan wrote:Can we make a sticky out of this abortion thread? It's not like we haven't already seen the same thread at least three other times between this website and the chineSE one.
What about Haiti?93henfan wrote:Yeah, go with Afghanistan. It's the hot war now.AZGrizFan wrote:
There's nothing different. Just that Iraq is old news.
93henfan wrote:Can we make a sticky out of this abortion thread? It's not like we haven't already seen the same thread at least three other times between this website and the chineSE one.
Perhaps the best post of the thread.andy7171 wrote:93henfan wrote:Can we make a sticky out of this abortion thread? It's not like we haven't already seen the same thread at least three other times between this website and the chineSE one.
Twinkie stops a beating heart.Col Hogan wrote:I say CHris should change the software...anytime someone types Abortion...it changes to Twinkie93henfan wrote:Can we make a sticky out of this abortion thread? It's not like we haven't already seen the same thread at least three other times between this website and the chineSE one.
