Am I the only one...

[bluehenbillk]

Let's just cut through the BS. If you've been out of work for 99 weeks (we'll call it 2 yrs, since that's 104 weeks). You need to A: Analyze your local job market for the type of job you're looking for, B: adjust your compensation expectation, C: Look at other job fields, D: Look at any potential re-training or knowledge you'll need to acquire to get a new job.

I interview & hire people all the time, and one of the black holes you don't wanna have on your resume is job gaps. It would be rare that I would even tell a recruiter that I want to interview a person that hasn't worked in the past 12 months (outside of a pregnancy), much less someone that hasn't worked in 99+ weeks. You have to realize if you've been out of work for a long period of time, your chances of getting anywhere near the job you want are dwindling every single day. God bless the spouses of these people, I know if my wife were "looking for a job" for that long and we needed that income there would be marital issues.

[Col Hogan]

Jesus would tell the community (NOT THE GOVERNMENT) to help those in need...that's why I willingly give to local charities that help the homeless...unmarried pregnant women...local food banks...

Hillary Clinton was not wrong when she said it takes a community...

Jesus would want it to be willing assistance...not forced as in taxes and government hand outs...

YOU LOSE!!!!!

Hard to seperate COMMUNITY(society) from GOVERNMENT

The COMMUNITY(society) provides the funds that the government uses to pay un-employment claims

It is a societal problem, not a governmental problem.

Society needs to take care of it, and we are, the government is just the pass through mechanism for the funds

Its very easy to seperate community from government if you believe in limited government. ..

[BlueHen86]

Let's just cut through the BS. If you've been out of work for 99 weeks (we'll call it 2 yrs, since that's 104 weeks). You need to A: Analyze your local job market for the type of job you're looking for, B: adjust your compensation expectation, C: Look at other job fields, D: Look at any potential re-training or knowledge you'll need to acquire to get a new job.

I interview & hire people all the time, and one of the black holes you don't wanna have on your resume is job gaps. It would be rare that I would even tell a recruiter that I want to interview a person that hasn't worked in the past 12 months (outside of a pregnancy), much less someone that hasn't worked in 99+ weeks. You have to realize if you've been out of work for a long period of time, your chances of getting anywhere near the job you want are dwindling every single day. God bless the spouses of these people, I know if my wife were "looking for a job" for that long and we needed that income there would be marital issues.

Good for you. I think it's great that you are in a position to judge others.

You seem to think that the people who have been out of work want to be out of work. I was out of work for part of last year, it was stressful , and it sucked. I was lucky that I was able to keep busy and make ends meet, but I'm not going to pass judgment on people who are less fortunate than I am.

[bluehenbillk]

Let's just cut through the BS. If you've been out of work for 99 weeks (we'll call it 2 yrs, since that's 104 weeks). You need to A: Analyze your local job market for the type of job you're looking for, B: adjust your compensation expectation, C: Look at other job fields, D: Look at any potential re-training or knowledge you'll need to acquire to get a new job.

I interview & hire people all the time, and one of the black holes you don't wanna have on your resume is job gaps. It would be rare that I would even tell a recruiter that I want to interview a person that hasn't worked in the past 12 months (outside of a pregnancy), much less someone that hasn't worked in 99+ weeks. You have to realize if you've been out of work for a long period of time, your chances of getting anywhere near the job you want are dwindling every single day. God bless the spouses of these people, I know if my wife were "looking for a job" for that long and we needed that income there would be marital issues.

Good for you. I think it's great that you are in a position to judge others.



You seem to think that the people who have been out of work want to be out of work. I was out of work for part of last year, it was stressful , and it sucked. I was lucky that I was able to keep busy and make ends meet, but I'm not going to pass judgment on people who are less fortunate than I am.

You found a job right? How long were you out of work? "Part of last year", let's say 26 weeks max, that's not 99 weeks, that's my point. People need to be smarter about their job searches and realize that after a point in time they turn into their own worst enemy, not the economy. Yep, blame the economy people, god forbid anyone ever look in the mirror.

[Gil Dobie]

Let's just cut through the BS. If you've been out of work for 99 weeks (we'll call it 2 yrs, since that's 104 weeks). You need to A: Analyze your local job market for the type of job you're looking for, B: adjust your compensation expectation, C: Look at other job fields, D: Look at any potential re-training or knowledge you'll need to acquire to get a new job.

I interview & hire people all the time, and one of the black holes you don't wanna have on your resume is job gaps. It would be rare that I would even tell a recruiter that I want to interview a person that hasn't worked in the past 12 months (outside of a pregnancy), much less someone that hasn't worked in 99+ weeks. You have to realize if you've been out of work for a long period of time, your chances of getting anywhere near the job you want are dwindling every single day. God bless the spouses of these people, I know if my wife were "looking for a job" for that long and we needed that income there would be marital issues.

A,B,C & D don't always work within the 99 week window.

[BlueHen86]

Good for you. I think it's great that you are in a position to judge others.



You seem to think that the people who have been out of work want to be out of work. I was out of work for part of last year, it was stressful , and it sucked. I was lucky that I was able to keep busy and make ends meet, but I'm not going to pass judgment on people who are less fortunate than I am.

You found a job right? How long were you out of work? "Part of last year", let's say 26 weeks max, that's not 99 weeks, that's my point. People need to be smarter about their job searches and realize that after a point in time they turn into their own worst enemy, not the economy. Yep, blame the economy people, god forbid anyone ever look in the mirror.

It is the economy. The reported unemployment rate is around 10% (9.3 is the number I read), the unreported rate is likely much higher.

I agree that people should look in the mirror. However, while looking in the mirror might be helpful in evaluating your own situation, it doesn't give you the ability to judge others.

[OSBF]

warning.........rant about to commence...........


JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

the god damn fucking conservative mother fucking retards keep finding new ways to piss me off and prove that they are either retarded or give a shit about anyone other than themselves about as much as a eunuch cares about pussy

NEWS FLASH.................

people are neither poor nor un-employed nor under-employed because they either want to be or choose to be

GET THE FUCK OFF YOUR FUCKING HIGH HORSE HUMPING THE FUCKING SOAPBOX

take a look in that stupid ass book you revel in cramming down peoples throats and actually pay attention to what it says about looking down your nose with such dis-respect and contempt for those that have less than you do

try reading it and actually paying some attention to it sometime

stupid ass mother fuckers never will get over themselves long enough to actually give even one tiny little sticky brown cheek nugget about anyone else

rant over

[Pwns]

OSBF, it was the donks that couldn't find the money in their titanic stimulus fund of theirs fund to use to extend the unemployment benefits. The donks would rather use that money for pork-barrel projects and to help their political allies.

[OSBF]

OSBF, it was the donks that couldn't find the money in their titanic stimulus fund of theirs fund to use to extend the unemployment benefits. The donks would rather use that money for pork-barrel projects and to help their political allies.

So, you're all in favor of lifting the utterly dumbass cap on taxable earnings for un-employment?

Currently sits at something like 11,500.

So, you're also in favor of lifting the utterly dumbass cap on taxable earnings for FICA?

[BlueHen86]

OSBF, it was the donks that couldn't find the money in their titanic stimulus fund of theirs fund to use to extend the unemployment benefits. The donks would rather use that money for pork-barrel projects and to help their political allies.

I agree that a lot of money is being wasted. The Conks have some good points regarding how to pay for the Unemployment Benefits Extension.

I think Unemployment Benefits are a good form of stimulus (the recipients usually have to spend it, as opposed to a bank which might sit on it), probably better than many of the stimulus plans currently being used.

[OSBF]

OSBF, it was the donks that couldn't find the money in their titanic stimulus fund of theirs fund to use to extend the unemployment benefits. The donks would rather use that money for pork-barrel projects and to help their political allies.

I agree that a lot of money is being wasted. The Conks have some good points regarding how to pay for the Unemployment Benefits Extension.

I think Unemployment Benefits are a good form of stimulus (the recipients usually have to spend it, as opposed to a bank which might sit on it), probably better than many of the stimulus plans currently being used.

Simple solution, lift the cap on earnings subject to the .08% un-employment benefit tax

There would be enough $$$ in the fund to keep the economy moving even at 15-20% un-employment

Would cost me about an extra 400 bucks a year, which i would gladly pay

[Ibanez]

...that thinks 99 weeks of unemployment insurance is a bit excessive?

Sorry if you think I have a cold heart, but if you can't find a job in 2 years you could be shooting too high or at the wrong target.

I'm with the Republicans, why couldn't they pay for this with unused stimulus $$. Well, I guess as long as they don't use that stimulus $$ it comes out the same....

I think it is horrible.

[BDKJMU]

...that thinks 99 weeks of unemployment insurance is a bit excessive?

Sorry if you think I have a cold heart, but if you can't find a job in 2 years you could be shooting too high or at the wrong target.

I'm with the Republicans, why couldn't they pay for this with unused stimulus $$. Well, I guess as long as they don't use that stimulus $$ it comes out the same....

Nope, as this this on the same subject from this past week indicates.
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As I said in that thread a few days ago, you have people on up to 99 weeks of unemployment who aren't going to take the lower paying jobs that are out there that don't pay near what they were making and that don't pay any more or not much more than unemployment whose avg check is $320 a week ($295 + $25 add on). Its cost the govt $145 billion annual rate the last quarter to pay unemployment bennies. NO ONE has been in the job force long enough to pay enough unemployment taxes (them and their employers) to cover 99 weeks. For most people who are eligible, they have only paid enough unemployment taxes cover them for a few weeks to few months. Never in any past recessions has unemployment been extended this long. People can't stay on them forever. 99 weeks is more than enough.

[BDKJMU]

It's not government handouts if they paid into the system.
But, I do think they should have to volunteer a certain amount of hours a week if they're going to receive a check after a certain amount of time.

Well, no one getting unemployment for 99 weeks has ever paid that much money into the system. PA takes out 0.08% of my pay for unemployment compensation. It wouldn't take many weeks of me collecting unemployment to blow past what I paid into the system.

So? You still paid in.

If you have a catastrophic injury should your health insurance only pay the amount that you've paid in?

**** no. You paid into it to ease your financial trouble should you be dealt a serious and expensive medical emergency.

Same with unemployment insurance.

As GF said, NO ONE has paid enough unemployment taxes to cover 99 weeks of unemployment bennies.

You can try to make an argue that they should still get it, but it is not like long term insurance. It is meant to be temporary- 26 weeks, with limited extensions during periods of high unemployment. So after they have gotten more in unemployment bennies than they have paid into the system, IT IS A HANDOUT.

I agree with the part about having to do some type of work for it after a certain amount of time.

[BDKJMU]

warning.........rant about to commence...........


JESUS **** CHRIST

the god damn **** conservative mother **** retards keep finding new ways to piss me off and prove that they are either retarded or give a **** about anyone other than themselves about as much as a eunuch cares about pussy

NEWS FLASH.................

people are neither poor nor un-employed nor under-employed because they either want to be or choose to be

GET THE **** OFF YOUR **** HIGH HORSE HUMPING THE **** SOAPBOX

take a look in that stupid ass book you revel in cramming down peoples throats and actually pay attention to what it says about looking down your nose with such dis-respect and contempt for those that have less than you do

try reading it and actually paying some attention to it sometime

stupid ass mother **** never will get over themselves long enough to actually give even one tiny little sticky brown cheek nugget about anyone else

rant over

NEWSFLASH- your wrong. There is a good chunk among those unemployed who WILL NOT GET A JOB PERIOD AS LONG AS THEY ARE BEING PAID UNEMPLOYMENT.

[Gil Dobie]

...that thinks 99 weeks of unemployment insurance is a bit excessive?

Sorry if you think I have a cold heart, but if you can't find a job in 2 years you could be shooting too high or at the wrong target.

I'm with the Republicans, why couldn't they pay for this with unused stimulus $$. Well, I guess as long as they don't use that stimulus $$ it comes out the same....

Nope, as this this on the same subject from this past week indicates.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16850&start=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As I said in that thread a few days ago, you have people on up to 99 weeks of unemployment who aren't going to take the lower paying jobs that are out there that don't pay near what they were making and that don't pay any more or not much more than unemployment whose avg check is $320 a week ($295 + $25 add on). Its cost the govt $145 billion annual rate the last quarter to pay unemployment bennies. NO ONE has been in the job force long enough to pay enough unemployment taxes (them and their employers) to cover 99 weeks. For most people who are eligible, they have only paid enough unemployment taxes cover them for a few weeks to few months. Never in any past recessions has unemployment been extended this long. People can't stay on them forever. 99 weeks is more than enough.

You have many that have taken $10 per hour jobs, such as me. Sure I didn't pay the previous 20+ yeas as much in as I got back, but what are the chances of getting Social Security etc. These services are for people that need it, and can use it. Sure it's abused by some, but not all.

[BDKJMU]

Nope, as this this on the same subject from this past week indicates.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16850&start=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As I said in that thread a few days ago, you have people on up to 99 weeks of unemployment who aren't going to take the lower paying jobs that are out there that don't pay near what they were making and that don't pay any more or not much more than unemployment whose avg check is $320 a week ($295 + $25 add on). Its cost the govt $145 billion annual rate the last quarter to pay unemployment bennies. NO ONE has been in the job force long enough to pay enough unemployment taxes (them and their employers) to cover 99 weeks. For most people who are eligible, they have only paid enough unemployment taxes cover them for a few weeks to few months. Never in any past recessions has unemployment been extended this long. People can't stay on them forever. 99 weeks is more than enough.

You have many that have taken $10 per hour jobs, such as me. Sure I didn't pay the previous 20+ yeas as much in as I got back, but what are the chances of getting Social Security etc. These services are for people that need it, and can use it. Sure it's abused by some, but not all.

SO how to you separate the wheat from the chaff?

[Gil Dobie]

NEWSFLASH- your wrong. There is a good chunk among those unemployed who WILL NOT GET A JOB PERIOD AS LONG AS THEY ARE BEING PAID UNEMPLOYMENT.

During this economy, there will be even more that are seriously looking for a job that won't get one regardless of getting paid unemployment or not. Every little bit helps in the meantime.

[Gil Dobie]

You have many that have taken $10 per hour jobs, such as me. Sure I didn't pay the previous 20+ yeas as much in as I got back, but what are the chances of getting Social Security etc. These services are for people that need it, and can use it. Sure it's abused by some, but not all.

SO how to you separate the wheat from the chaff?

How do you know there is more chaff than wheat?

[Skjellyfetti]

As GF said, NO ONE has paid enough unemployment taxes to cover 99 weeks of unemployment bennies.

And NO ONE has paid enough in health care premiums to pay for cancer care, paralysis, etc.

It should still be covered though... because that's why they fucking paid for health insurance in the first place.

The same with unemployment insurance... they couldn't have planned for being unemployed in the midst of the worst recession in 80 or so years... and having an extremely difficult time finding a job. They PAID IN on UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE... and should be able to receive it as long as it's needed... not simply the amount that they paid in.

It is meant to be temporary- 26 weeks, with limited extensions during periods of high unemployment.

And.... that's exactly what it is. You just disagree with the amount of time the extensions should be for.

[HI54UNI]

I agree that a lot of money is being wasted. The Conks have some good points regarding how to pay for the Unemployment Benefits Extension.

I think Unemployment Benefits are a good form of stimulus (the recipients usually have to spend it, as opposed to a bank which might sit on it), probably better than many of the stimulus plans currently being used.

Simple solution, lift the cap on earnings subject to the .08% un-employment benefit tax

There would be enough $$$ in the fund to keep the economy moving even at 15-20% un-employment

Would cost me about an extra 400 bucks a year, which i would gladly pay

You can send your $400 here:


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Please post a copy of your check so we can see that you put your money where your mouth is.

[Col Hogan]

warning.........rant about to commence...........


JESUS **** CHRIST

the god damn **** conservative mother **** retards keep finding new ways to piss me off and prove that they are either retarded or give a **** about anyone other than themselves about as much as a eunuch cares about pussy

NEWS FLASH.................

people are neither poor nor un-employed nor under-employed because they either want to be or choose to be

GET THE **** OFF YOUR **** HIGH HORSE HUMPING THE **** SOAPBOX

take a look in that stupid ass book you revel in cramming down peoples throats and actually pay attention to what it says about looking down your nose with such dis-respect and contempt for those that have less than you do

try reading it and actually paying some attention to it sometime

stupid ass mother **** never will get over themselves long enough to actually give even one tiny little sticky brown cheek nugget about anyone else

rant over

I love it when you get all emotional...because emotions are all you got...no common sense...

You are not concerned about anything but stealing money from those who work hard to give it to those in need...so you'll feel good...

That book...I assume its a veiled reference to the Bible...teaches believers to help those in need...not the government...

The book teaches voluntary help...not theft from those who have so a government agency can decide who gets how much...

[mebison]

Question: How long should it be?

Those who don't want 99 weeks, is 26 weeks reasonable? Or something in between temporarily?

On the flip side, those in favor of 99 weeks, is that long enough? Should there be a limit at all?

Where is the line?

[bobbythekidd]

Question: How long should it be?

Those who don't want 99 weeks, is 26 weeks reasonable? Or something in between temporarily?

On the flip side, those in favor of 99 weeks, is that long enough? Should there be a limit at all?

Where is the line?

This is one of the few level headed posts on this topic.Good for you.

I lost my job on Jan 4th. The first week off I did absolutely nothing to get a job, b/c it was my first week off in 8 years. Yep, I never took a vacation and was always on call. I felt I deserved it and still think I did.

Weeks 2 and 3 I called in favors, talked to friends, called on contacts, etc. etc. and came up empty. So I filed for unemployment b/c I learned it is really hard to get a good job in this climate. 8 weeks of unemployment with all the BS about "proving" that I was looking for a job (nobody cared or asked me to prove it). Then I landed a job in my preferred field. True, I am getting a lower salary than I am used to, but it sets me up for future moves up.

If I can find something better than what UI Beni's paid in 8 weeks, 26 seems good. 52 weeks seems very liberal, 99 weeks seems like enough time to brainstorm a new business/ write the business plan/ attract investors/funding, and get that bitch running.

[death dealer]

OSBF.

I love how you pull out the bible reference. Newsflash Frances, I'm an atheist. You can wipe your ass with that book for all I care. As far as the implication that thinking 99 weeks is a little long to be on unemployment indicating a lack of caring for my fellow man? Blow me. Get a fucking job already. Guess what? If you can't find a job in 99 weeks, there is something seriously fucking wrong with you, even in this economy. Time for a little slice of reality pie.