New Poll: 24% of Americans think Obama is a Muslim

[Skjellyfetti]

How about link for your quote?

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

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[Wedgebuster]

Back in them 60's when I was a grade school student, we had us this here integration movement in our Kansas town, had someone tole' me din dere wus gonna be a darkie for da Prez, I'd a bin like mos folk, 'n said shoooot, only when pigs fly!

Sos now its happened, an pigs don't yet fly, I asks,

is it good or bad??






Next question, is Muslims any crazier than Fred Phelps, the Mormons, the Baptists, the Catholics, the Hare Krishnas, or the Lutherans who take their own superstitions way too seriously? What about them Saturday churchers? Or the newly organized neighborhood disenfranchised weirdo whack-o cast off from other seriously pathetically psychotic invisible friend worshiping insecure-o-tard peddlers of severe silliness and pompous self righteous overbearing douchbaggery?


Jus askin'

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

76% of this country is fu*king stupid.

[BlueHen86]

And more than that believe Iraq had WMD when we invaded.

The American public is woefully uninformed.

And you didn't believe that Iraq had WMD when the US invaded?

We were told by the President that Iraq had WMD.

We were told by members of his cabinet, including the most highly respected Colin Powell, that Iraq had WMD.

When Bill Clinton was President, he told us that Iraq had WMD.

We were told by leaders of our allies, including Great Britain, Germany, France and others, that they too had intelligence which showed Iraq had WMD.

We were told by leading Democratic members of Congress, including then Senator Hilliary Clinton, that Iraq had WMD.

Why wouldn't have any reasonable person believed, at the time of the invasion, that Iraq had WMD?

I didn't think Iraq had WMD's at the time we invaded. The people one the ground that were actually looking for them weren't finding them. I know that Iraq had WMD's years before we invaded, but when Saddam claimed to have destroyed them and the UN inspectors couldn't find them I started to think that Saddam was telling the truth.

[BlueHen86]

76% of this country is fu*king stupid.

I think the actual number is much higher, maybe over 90%.

[JoltinJoe]

And you didn't believe that Iraq had WMD when the US invaded?

We were told by the President that Iraq had WMD.

We were told by members of his cabinet, including the most highly respected Colin Powell, that Iraq had WMD.

When Bill Clinton was President, he told us that Iraq had WMD.

We were told by leaders of our allies, including Great Britain, Germany, France and others, that they too had intelligence which showed Iraq had WMD.

We were told by leading Democratic members of Congress, including then Senator Hilliary Clinton, that Iraq had WMD.

Why wouldn't have any reasonable person believed, at the time of the invasion, that Iraq had WMD?

I didn't think Iraq had WMD's at the time we invaded. The people one the ground that were actually looking for them weren't finding them. I know that Iraq had WMD's years before we invaded, but when Saddam claimed to have destroyed them and the UN inspectors couldn't find them I started to think that Saddam was telling the truth.

But there's quite a difference between what you're saying and suggesting that people were stupid for believing in March 2003 that he did have WMD.

[houndawg]

I didn't think Iraq had WMD's at the time we invaded. The people one the ground that were actually looking for them weren't finding them. I know that Iraq had WMD's years before we invaded, but when Saddam claimed to have destroyed them and the UN inspectors couldn't find them I started to think that Saddam was telling the truth.

But there's quite a difference between what you're saying and suggesting that people were stupid for believing in March 2003 that he did have WMD.

Maybe not stupid, but nobody up high wanted to hear what the inspectors were saying. Iraq was going to be taken, regardless.

When is that Iraqi oil going to start paying for the cost of this cluterphuk, anyway?

[JoltinJoe]

But there's quite a difference between what you're saying and suggesting that people were stupid for believing in March 2003 that he did have WMD.

Maybe not stupid, but nobody up high wanted to hear what the inspectors were saying. Iraq was going to be taken, regardless.

When is that Iraqi oil going to start paying for the cost of this cluterphuk, anyway?

Another myth. Our children are going to pay for this war.

Lesson learned: a "just war" cannot be fought because of the anticipation that an outlaw state is going to act aggressively or illegally.

Cost of lesson: perhaps as much as $1.9 trillion.

PS -- Those inspectors were maligned because out intelligence said they were wrong. We really owe them an acknowledgment that they were correct.

I supported this war in '03. I think we were misled, probably intentionally so, by people high up in US intelligence. I cannot stand the rationalization that we should have fought this war anyway to bring democracy to an oppressed people. If that's so, what nation do we free next? Don't get me wrong. I wish all people lived in freedom, but it is simply not possible to serve as the world's enforcement officer.

We need to man up and say we goofed, and acknowledge that those handful of protesters who did not favor this war were right.

[catamount man]

Maybe not stupid, but nobody up high wanted to hear what the inspectors were saying. Iraq was going to be taken, regardless.

When is that Iraqi oil going to start paying for the cost of this cluterphuk, anyway?

Another myth. Our children are going to pay for this war.

Lesson learned: a "just war" cannot be fought because of the anticipation that an outlaw state is going to act aggressively or illegally.

Cost of lesson: perhaps as much as $1.9 trillion.

PS -- Those inspectors were maligned because out intelligence said they were wrong. We really owe them an acknowledgment that they were correct.

I supported this war in '03. I think we were misled, probably intentionally so, by people high up in US intelligence. I cannot stand the rationalization that we should have fought this war anyway to bring democracy to an oppressed people. If that's so, what nation do we free next? Don't get me wrong. I wish all people lived in freedom, but it is simply not possible to serve as the world's enforcement officer.

We need to man up and say we goofed, and acknowledge that those handful of protesters who did not favor this war were right.

FWIW, I never supported this war. I never believed Hussein posed any immenent threat to America at all and now, 7 years later, 4,000 innocent American children are still missed by their loved ones. Damn shame!

[BlueHen86]

I didn't think Iraq had WMD's at the time we invaded. The people one the ground that were actually looking for them weren't finding them. I know that Iraq had WMD's years before we invaded, but when Saddam claimed to have destroyed them and the UN inspectors couldn't find them I started to think that Saddam was telling the truth.

But there's quite a difference between what you're saying and suggesting that people were stupid for believing in March 2003 that he did have WMD.

Understood. In March of 2003 you could make a good argument either way on the existence of Iraqi WMD's - which is exactly the reason that we shouldn't have invaded when we did. There was a reasonable chance that the WMD's were not there, our leadership acted stupidly by ignoring that possiblilty.

[BlueHen86]

Maybe not stupid, but nobody up high wanted to hear what the inspectors were saying. Iraq was going to be taken, regardless.

When is that Iraqi oil going to start paying for the cost of this cluterphuk, anyway?

Another myth. Our children are going to pay for this war.

Lesson learned: a "just war" cannot be fought because of the anticipation that an outlaw state is going to act aggressively or illegally.

Cost of lesson: perhaps as much as $1.9 trillion.

PS -- Those inspectors were maligned because out intelligence said they were wrong. We really owe them an acknowledgment that they were correct.

I supported this war in '03. I think we were misled, probably intentionally so, by people high up in US intelligence. I cannot stand the rationalization that we should have fought this war anyway to bring democracy to an oppressed people. If that's so, what nation do we free next? Don't get me wrong. I wish all people lived in freedom, but it is simply not possible to serve as the world's enforcement officer.

We need to man up and say we goofed, and acknowledge that those handful of protesters who did not favor this war were right.

Good post.

[Ivytalk]

You mean Barry Sortero is NOT a Muslim??

[93henfan]

You mean Barry Sortero is NOT a Muslim??

I thought John McCain had already cleared this up with his party.

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[89Hen]

Zogby poll: 42% of Democrats thinks Bush was behind the 9-11 attack so I guess you're right about folks being dumb.

link

http://www.911truth.org/images/ZogbyPoll2007.pdf

[89Hen]

76% of this country is fu*king stupid.

I think the actual number is much higher, maybe over 90%.

But it's good to be in the 10%.

[AZGrizFan]

I supported this war in '03. I think we were misled, probably intentionally so, by people high up in US intelligence. I cannot stand the rationalization that we should have fought this war anyway to bring democracy to an oppressed people. If that's so, what nation do we free next? Don't get me wrong. I wish all people lived in freedom, but it is simply not possible to serve as the world's enforcement officer.

We need to man up and say we goofed, and acknowledge that those handful of protesters who did not favor this war were right.

However, we also need to get donks to acknowledge that two wrongs don't make a right. We seriously destabilized a 30-million population country and walking away from that country when it's still in a destabilized state would have been just plain wrong.

That being said, the day their president (or whatever he's called) said he didn't was US troops in the country any more (which IIRC was about 6-8 months ago) I'd have started packing shit up that DAY.

Fuck 'em.

[OL FU]

I don't think he is a muslim, but I do think he should be organizing a very small community somewhere

[Ivytalk]

I don't think he is a muslim, but I do think he should be organizing a very small community somewhere

I propose the Maldive Islands.

[AZGrizFan]

I don't think he is a muslim, but I do think he should be organizing a very small community somewhere

I propose the Maldive Islands.

I propose Easter Island.

[CID1990]

Maybe not stupid, but nobody up high wanted to hear what the inspectors were saying. Iraq was going to be taken, regardless.

When is that Iraqi oil going to start paying for the cost of this cluterphuk, anyway?

Another myth. Our children are going to pay for this war.

Lesson learned: a "just war" cannot be fought because of the anticipation that an outlaw state is going to act aggressively or illegally.

Cost of lesson: perhaps as much as $1.9 trillion.

PS -- Those inspectors were maligned because out intelligence said they were wrong. We really owe them an acknowledgment that they were correct.

I supported this war in '03. I think we were misled, probably intentionally so, by people high up in US intelligence. I cannot stand the rationalization that we should have fought this war anyway to bring democracy to an oppressed people. If that's so, what nation do we free next? Don't get me wrong. I wish all people lived in freedom, but it is simply not possible to serve as the world's enforcement officer.

We need to man up and say we goofed, and acknowledge that those handful of protesters who did not favor this war were right.

JJ, I agree with you up to a point, but as for the folks that were protesting the war I'd point out that the vast majority of them would protest armed conflict regardless of the reasons listed. 95% of them would have protested our involvement in WWII. If the Chinese were making an amphibious landing in California right now they would be protesting war with the Chinese. Just like a broken clock is correct twice a day, so were they.

[CID1990]

I don't think he is a muslim, but I do think he should be organizing a very small community somewhere

I could care less what his religion is. Also, his color matters not.

It's his politics that I have a problem with.

[griz37]

And an even greater percentage believe that a virgin gave birth to the savior of mankind, who later turned into a zombie. Your point?

That is some funny shit!

[Skjellyfetti]

I propose the Maldive Islands.

I propose Easter Island.

Careful what you wish for, guys... he'd have them the leading economic and military power in the world within the decade.

[SumItUp]

Based on the comments Obama has made regarding Islam and muslims, it is interesting that only 24% believe he is muslim. Ironically, those comments about Islam/muslims have occurred when he was not using a teleprompter.

[houndawg]

Another myth. Our children are going to pay for this war.

Lesson learned: a "just war" cannot be fought because of the anticipation that an outlaw state is going to act aggressively or illegally.

Cost of lesson: perhaps as much as $1.9 trillion.

PS -- Those inspectors were maligned because out intelligence said they were wrong. We really owe them an acknowledgment that they were correct.

I supported this war in '03. I think we were misled, probably intentionally so, by people high up in US intelligence. I cannot stand the rationalization that we should have fought this war anyway to bring democracy to an oppressed people. If that's so, what nation do we free next? Don't get me wrong. I wish all people lived in freedom, but it is simply not possible to serve as the world's enforcement officer.

We need to man up and say we goofed, and acknowledge that those handful of protesters who did not favor this war were right.

JJ, I agree with you up to a point, but as for the folks that were protesting the war I'd point out that the vast majority of them would protest armed conflict regardless of the reasons listed. 95% of them would have protested our involvement in WWII. If the Chinese were making an amphibious landing in California right now they would be protesting war with the Chinese. Just like a broken clock is correct twice a day, so were they.

Doubtful.