"...Placate the right?..."dbackjon wrote:Obama spent the last two years trying to placate the right, compromise, etc. Got him nowhere.
He needs to get a pair of stones. The GOP is going to run all over him next two years.
Obama is a clueless motherfucker.
native wrote:"...Placate the right?..."dbackjon wrote:Obama spent the last two years trying to placate the right, compromise, etc. Got him nowhere.
He needs to get a pair of stones. The GOP is going to run all over him next two years.
Obama is a clueless motherfucker.
Shirley, you can't be serious.dbackjon wrote:native wrote:
"...Placate the right?..."
Yes, he has. You guys are too blind to see that.
Krauthammer got it right. Obama pulled a fast one on the right by getting Repubs to go along with $billions more in "stimulus" candy in order to avoid tax increases which should never have been on the table in the first place. This will which will result in $billions more in debt for which the Repubs now share responsibility. Moreover, the Repubs have been cornered as the bad guys when spending cuts come.dbackjon wrote:native wrote:
"...Placate the right?..."
Yes, he has. You guys are too blind to see that.
That's giving Obama quite a bit of credit isn't it?native wrote:Krauthammer got it right. Obama pulled a fast one on the right by getting Repubs to go along with $billions more in "stimulus" candy in order to avoid tax increases which should never have been on the table in the first place. This will which will result in $billions more in debt for which the Repubs now share responsibility. Moreover, the Repubs have been cornered as the bad guys when spending cuts come.dbackjon wrote:
Yes, he has. You guys are too blind to see that.
dbackjon wrote:Obama spent the last two years trying to placate the right, compromise, etc.
Yes, it's called reality. The one where we've been telling you all along that Obama is not a progressive. The one where he's a center to center right corporatist. He's probably gonna end up being the best Republican President we've had since Clinton.Cluck U wrote:dbackjon wrote:Obama spent the last two years trying to placate the right, compromise, etc.
Wow. You really do live in a different world.
Wedgebuster wrote:
And that voter would include more than a few conks. Wow! What a remarkable resemblance, Wedge!Wedgebuster wrote:
Obama makes Franklin Pierce look like a genius.... hell Obama makes Bush II look mildly intelligent.AZGrizFan wrote:Sure, when Clinton is viewed through the prism of Obama, he (Clinton) looks like a fucking genius.kalm wrote:They were saying the same thing about Clinton and now moderate Republicans will admit that Clinton wasn't so bad while wing nuts will attribute all of Clinton's successes to congressional Republicans.
I'll admit that Obamacare was a giant mess, but he clearly moved to the right and away from single payer and the public option. So you could say he placated Big Insurance and Pharma which is supposed to be the job of the party of business.
The stimulus ended up being 1/3 tax cuts - which have had little stimulative or job creating effect.
He escalated the War in Afghanistan.
He maintained if not grew the Bush Security State.
He is continuing to pursue Free Trade.
But I agree about the Republicans being bystanders. Loud, vocal, bystanders who were never going to comprise. That will continue.
And Obama moved away from single-payer and the public option because he knew he might get tarred and feathered otherwise. And if you think Big Business only greases the palms on the RIGHT side of the aisle, you're beyond hope.
He escalated the war in Afghanistan and grew the Security state based on national intelligence data that the dipshit didn't have access to as the junior senator from Illinoise.
But let's not mix facts with hyperbole...
Come on IT, in all fairness to Weiner (can anyone actually say his name without laughing a little bit), I wouldn't be able to answer a single freaking questions asked by Megyn Kelly..................Ivytalk wrote:Weiner wouldn't answer Megyn Kelly's question about the unfairness of the estate tax. He's replaced the insufferable prick Alan Grayson as Congressional Douchebag of the Year (CDBY).
Weiner wasn't in the studio with her, so he didn't have that excuse!danefan wrote:Come on IT, in all fairness to Weiner (can anyone actually say his name without laughing a little bit), I wouldn't be able to answer a single freaking questions asked by Megyn Kelly..................Ivytalk wrote:Weiner wouldn't answer Megyn Kelly's question about the unfairness of the estate tax. He's replaced the insufferable prick Alan Grayson as Congressional Douchebag of the Year (CDBY).
kalm wrote:It's good if you're a multinational corporation.Rob Iola wrote: Free Trade's bad?
its not a tax cut. just a continuation of current ratesWedgebuster wrote:
It's not good for them?ming01 wrote:kalm wrote:
It's good if you're a multinational corporation.
