I like you better sober, dawg.houndawg wrote:Duh. That's what the Patriot Act is for.native wrote:
Here is one of censured lines from Cheney's 2004 speech to the students of Shaghai's Fudan University:
"The war on terrorism must never be used as an excuse for silencing legitimate dissent."
http://articles.cnn.com/2004-04-21/worl ... s=PM:WORLD" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
- native
- Level4

- Posts: 5635
- Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:21 am
- I am a fan of: Weber State
- Location: On the road from Cibola
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
- CitadelGrad
- Level4

- Posts: 5210
- Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:19 pm
- I am a fan of: Jack Kerouac
- A.K.A.: El Cid
- Location: St. Louis
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Does anyone realize that the Patriot Act was authored by Janet Reno's DOJ?native wrote:I like you better sober, dawg.houndawg wrote:
Duh. That's what the Patriot Act is for.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson, in letter to William S. Smith, 1787

- Thomas Jefferson, in letter to William S. Smith, 1787

- travelinman67
- Supporter

- Posts: 9884
- Joined: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:51 pm
- I am a fan of: Portland State Vikings
- A.K.A.: Modern Man
- Location: Where the 1st Amendment still exists: CS.com
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
???CitadelGrad wrote:Does anyone realize that the Patriot Act was authored by Janet Reno's DOJ?native wrote:
I like you better sober, dawg.
Source?
"That is how government works - we tell you what you can do today."
- EPA Kommissar Gina McCarthy
- EPA Kommissar Gina McCarthy
-
blueballs
- Level3

- Posts: 2590
- Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:00 am
- I am a fan of: Cap'n's porn collection
- A.K.A.: blueballs
- Location: Central FL, where bums have to stay in their designated area on the sidewalk
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
There are some absolute truths in life. The sun will rise in the east and set in the west. The tide comes in, then goes out, twice daily. The moon will be full every 28 days. Mention Dick Cheney or Sarah Palin and liberals will spout the most hateful, venomous, non sensical bullshit.
Just like the never ending forces of nature, they never fail to disappoint.
Just like the never ending forces of nature, they never fail to disappoint.
Blueballs: The ultimate 'bad case of the wants.'
- COBBLESTONE
- Level2

- Posts: 904
- Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:16 pm
- I am a fan of: URI RAMS
- A.K.A.: D1C
- Location: RI
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
The only thing I dislike about this post, is I was getting ready to post the exact same thing. Thanks for beating me to it.houndawg wrote:He's a draft-dodging piece of **** and his boss was an undesirably discharged piece of ****.native wrote:If you love liberty, your hatred of Cheney is misguided.
Perhaps he is a political opponent, but he is not an enemy.
If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.
Henry David Thoreau, Walden, Conclusion, 1854
Henry David Thoreau, Walden, Conclusion, 1854
-
houndawg
- Level5

- Posts: 25096
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
- I am a fan of: SIU
- A.K.A.: houndawg
- Location: Egypt
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
CitadelGrad wrote:Does anyone realize that the Patriot Act was authored by Janet Reno's DOJ?native wrote:
I like you better sober, dawg.
What is your point? I'm sure they had a plan for martial law too.
It wasn't Janet Reno who inflicted the so-called Patriot Act upon our nation whether she wrote it or not.
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.
"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
-
houndawg
- Level5

- Posts: 25096
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
- I am a fan of: SIU
- A.K.A.: houndawg
- Location: Egypt
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Funny how the same people who are making such a fuss about Obama's birth certificate, and blather on about supporting our troops in all ways, short of enlisting themselves, had not the slightest problem with being stampeded into two unnecessary wars by a commander-in-chief who separated from the military under less-than-honorable conditions.COBBLESTONE wrote:The only thing I dislike about this post, is I was getting ready to post the exact same thing. Thanks for beating me to it.houndawg wrote:
He's a draft-dodging piece of **** and his boss was an undesirably discharged piece of ****.
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.
"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
-
Ivytalk
- Supporter

- Posts: 26827
- Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:22 pm
- I am a fan of: Salisbury University
- Location: Republic of Western Sussex
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Who cares about CPAC anyway? Just a bunch of over-amped conservative kids. 
“I’m tired and done.” — 89Hen 3/27/22.
-
OL FU
- Level3

- Posts: 4336
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:25 pm
- I am a fan of: Furman
- Location: Greenville SC
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
That sounds like the definition of hypocrisyTwinTownBisonFan wrote:No hypocrisy... it pisses me off that Obama won't repeal it... but I understand why he won't... it's pure politics... and I don't blame him for making that calculation...
-
TwinTownBisonFan
- Supporter

- Posts: 7704
- Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:56 pm
- I am a fan of: NDSU
- Location: St. Paul, MN
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
hypocrisy would be saying I support him making that calculation... I simply understand why he's doing what he's doing... don't agree with it - but understand it.OL FU wrote:That sounds like the definition of hypocrisyTwinTownBisonFan wrote:No hypocrisy... it pisses me off that Obama won't repeal it... but I understand why he won't... it's pure politics... and I don't blame him for making that calculation...
North Dakota State University Bison 2011 and 2012 National Champions


- Grizalltheway
- Supporter

- Posts: 35688
- Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm
- A.K.A.: DJ Honey BBQ
- Location: BSC
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Good point. Politics should be the exclusive realm of old, white land-owners.Ivytalk wrote:Who cares about CPAC anyway? Just a bunch of over-amped conservative kids.
-
OL FU
- Level3

- Posts: 4336
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:25 pm
- I am a fan of: Furman
- Location: Greenville SC
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
I should clarify. It's Obama's hypocrisy. With that said, they all may do it but it is hypocrisy nonetheless.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:hypocrisy would be saying I support him making that calculation... I simply understand why he's doing what he's doing... don't agree with it - but understand it.OL FU wrote:
That sounds like the definition of hypocrisy
-
TwinTownBisonFan
- Supporter

- Posts: 7704
- Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:56 pm
- I am a fan of: NDSU
- Location: St. Paul, MN
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
i agree with IT... CPAC has never told us anything important about the political landscape - it's a dog and pony show - and not a good one at that.Grizalltheway wrote:Good point. Politics should be the exclusive realm of old, white land-owners.Ivytalk wrote:Who cares about CPAC anyway? Just a bunch of over-amped conservative kids.
any place where ron paul can "win" anything is a place divorced from reality.
North Dakota State University Bison 2011 and 2012 National Champions


- native
- Level4

- Posts: 5635
- Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:21 am
- I am a fan of: Weber State
- Location: On the road from Cibola
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Why do you and Dan Rather make up this crap? Why not criticize Bush with truthful facts instead of BS? There are plenty of factual events and actions for which to criticize him.houndawg wrote:Funny how the same people who are making such a fuss about Obama's birth certificate, and blather on about supporting our troops in all ways, short of enlisting themselves, had not the slightest problem with being stampeded into two unnecessary wars by a commander-in-chief who separated from the military under less-than-honorable conditions.COBBLESTONE wrote:
The only thing I dislike about this post, is I was getting ready to post the exact same thing. Thanks for beating me to it.
There is no evidence that Bush received anything other than an Honorable discharge. And unless you served in actual combat or flew more than 100 missions as aircrew, you did not subject yourself to as great a risk of death and injury as President Bush did in his 200 hours or so of aviation training and 100 hours in F-102 jet fighters. The "Class A" mishap rate (death rate) for his type of jet is among the highest of any make and model.
-
houndawg
- Level5

- Posts: 25096
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
- I am a fan of: SIU
- A.K.A.: houndawg
- Location: Egypt
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
There is no evidence that Bush received any kind of discharge at all, let alone an Honorable one.native wrote:Why do you and Dan Rather make up this crap? Why not criticize Bush with truthful facts instead of BS? There are plenty of factual events and actions for which to criticize him.houndawg wrote:
Funny how the same people who are making such a fuss about Obama's birth certificate, and blather on about supporting our troops in all ways, short of enlisting themselves, had not the slightest problem with being stampeded into two unnecessary wars by a commander-in-chief who separated from the military under less-than-honorable conditions.
There is no evidence that Bush received anything other than an Honorable discharge. And unless you served in actual combat or flew more than 100 missions as aircrew, you did not subject yourself to as great a risk of death and injury as President Bush did in his 200 hours or so of aviation training and 100 hours in F-102 jet fighters. The "Class A" mishap rate (death rate) for his type of jet is among the highest of any make and model.
There is no evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.
"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
- Skjellyfetti
- Anal

- Posts: 14681
- Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:56 pm
- I am a fan of: Appalachian
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
I'd really like to hear CitadelGrad's source on this as well.travelinman67 wrote:???CitadelGrad wrote:
Does anyone realize that the Patriot Act was authored by Janet Reno's DOJ?
Source?
"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
- Richard Burr, (R-NC)
- Richard Burr, (R-NC)
- native
- Level4

- Posts: 5635
- Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:21 am
- I am a fan of: Weber State
- Location: On the road from Cibola
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Bush served honorably and there is plenty of evidence to this effect on factcheck.org.houndawg wrote:There is no evidence that Bush received any kind of discharge at all, let alone an Honorable one.native wrote:
Why do you and Dan Rather make up this crap? Why not criticize Bush with truthful facts instead of BS? There are plenty of factual events and actions for which to criticize him.
There is no evidence that Bush received anything other than an Honorable discharge. And unless you served in actual combat or flew more than 100 missions as aircrew, you did not subject yourself to as great a risk of death and injury as President Bush did in his 200 hours or so of aviation training and 100 hours in F-102 jet fighters. The "Class A" mishap rate (death rate) for his type of jet is among the highest of any make and model.![]()
There is no evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.
http://www.factcheck.org/new_evidence_s ... ostly.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I do not know what his DD-214 says, but the only type of thing that could have gotten him a discharge characterized as anything other than Honorable would be something like getting busted for drugs. DUI wouldn't do it. Failure to meet annual minimum drills would merely have kicked him from the active reserves to the inactive reserves.
Everything else is BS.
-
eagleskins
- Level2

- Posts: 689
- Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:51 pm
- I am a fan of: Georgia Southern
- A.K.A.: eagleskins
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
As bad a president a Chimpy was, this guy was an even worse VP, if that is possible.
-
houndawg
- Level5

- Posts: 25096
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
- I am a fan of: SIU
- A.K.A.: houndawg
- Location: Egypt
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Nobody knows what his discharge says because he won't show it, nate.native wrote:Bush served honorably and there is plenty of evidence to this effect on factcheck.org.houndawg wrote:
There is no evidence that Bush received any kind of discharge at all, let alone an Honorable one.![]()
There is no evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.
http://www.factcheck.org/new_evidence_s ... ostly.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I do not know what his DD-214 says, but the only type of thing that could have gotten him a discharge characterized as anything other than Honorable would be something like getting busted for drugs. DUI wouldn't do it. Failure to meet annual minimum drills would merely have kicked him from the active reserves to the inactive reserves.
Everything else is BS.
But funny you should mention getting busted for drugs, because he was grounded for failing to report for a mandatory physical/ drug screen and never flew a minute afterward for the remaining two years of his obligation. The military doesn't like to have expensively trained pilots sitting around.
So lets recap, nate:
You never flew once after pilot piss testing was instituted
You were grounded for failing to report for mandatory flight physical/ drug screen
The results of the subsequent Flight Inquiry Board are missing
You won't show your DD-214
Your Texas driving record is missing
Your Dad is Congressman Bush
And you are worried about Obama's birth certificate?
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.
"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
- AZGrizFan
- Supporter

- Posts: 59959
- Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:40 pm
- I am a fan of: Sexual Chocolate
- Location: Just to the right of center
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Coming from you, that's just fucking comical.Grizalltheway wrote:He's dangerously delusional about his side of the aisle.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
really?
My take away from the Bush years was that it was CHENEY who was the principle architect of the MASSIVE domestic spying that was initiated. Cheney was the principle force in the administration (though not alone) in pushing the PATRIOT Act... that fact alone ought to be enough...
Interested in what makes you make such a contention...![]()
"Ah fuck. You are right." KYJelly, 11/6/12
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Barack Obama, 9/25/12

"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Barack Obama, 9/25/12

- AZGrizFan
- Supporter

- Posts: 59959
- Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:40 pm
- I am a fan of: Sexual Chocolate
- Location: Just to the right of center
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Well, none of those issues make Bush ineligible to be president.houndawg wrote:Nobody knows what his discharge says because he won't show it, nate.native wrote:
Bush served honorably and there is plenty of evidence to this effect on factcheck.org.
http://www.factcheck.org/new_evidence_s ... ostly.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I do not know what his DD-214 says, but the only type of thing that could have gotten him a discharge characterized as anything other than Honorable would be something like getting busted for drugs. DUI wouldn't do it. Failure to meet annual minimum drills would merely have kicked him from the active reserves to the inactive reserves.
Everything else is BS.![]()
But funny you should mention getting busted for drugs, because he was grounded for failing to report for a mandatory physical/ drug screen and never flew a minute afterward for the remaining two years of his obligation. The military doesn't like to have expensively trained pilots sitting around.![]()
So lets recap, nate:
You never flew once after pilot piss testing was instituted
You were grounded for failing to report for mandatory flight physical/ drug screen
The results of the subsequent Flight Inquiry Board are missing
You won't show your DD-214
Your Texas driving record is missing
Your Dad is Congressman Bush
And you are worried about Obama's birth certificate?
"Ah fuck. You are right." KYJelly, 11/6/12
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Barack Obama, 9/25/12

"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Barack Obama, 9/25/12

- Grizalltheway
- Supporter

- Posts: 35688
- Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm
- A.K.A.: DJ Honey BBQ
- Location: BSC
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Is itAZGrizFan wrote:Coming from you, that's just fucking comical.Grizalltheway wrote:
He's dangerously delusional about his side of the aisle.![]()
![]()
![]()
- CitadelGrad
- Level4

- Posts: 5210
- Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:19 pm
- I am a fan of: Jack Kerouac
- A.K.A.: El Cid
- Location: St. Louis
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Ask Janet Reno. After 9/11 she made a lot of public statements in which she took credit for authoring it.Skjellyfetti wrote:I'd really like to hear CitadelGrad's source on this as well.travelinman67 wrote:
???
Source?![]()
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson, in letter to William S. Smith, 1787

- Thomas Jefferson, in letter to William S. Smith, 1787

- native
- Level4

- Posts: 5635
- Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:21 am
- I am a fan of: Weber State
- Location: On the road from Cibola
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Let's recap, dawg:houndawg wrote:Nobody knows what his discharge says because he won't show it, nate.native wrote:
Bush served honorably and there is plenty of evidence to this effect on factcheck.org.
http://www.factcheck.org/new_evidence_s ... ostly.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I do not know what his DD-214 says, but the only type of thing that could have gotten him a discharge characterized as anything other than Honorable would be something like getting busted for drugs. DUI wouldn't do it. Failure to meet annual minimum drills would merely have kicked him from the active reserves to the inactive reserves.
Everything else is BS.![]()
But funny you should mention getting busted for drugs, because he was grounded for failing to report for a mandatory physical/ drug screen and never flew a minute afterward for the remaining two years of his obligation. The military doesn't like to have expensively trained pilots sitting around.![]()
So lets recap, nate:
You never flew once after pilot piss testing was instituted
You were grounded for failing to report for mandatory flight physical/ drug screen
The results of the subsequent Flight Inquiry Board are missing
You won't show your DD-214
Your Texas driving record is missing
Your Dad is Congressman Bush
And you are worried about Obama's birth certificate?
1. You make up a bunch of circumstantial speculation about an issue which is not Constitutional, and
2. Obama has not produced birth certificate, which his buddy Neil Abercrombie now claims may not exist; an issue which DOES have profound Constitutional implications.
- BDKJMU
- Level5

- Posts: 36376
- Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
- I am a fan of: JMU
- A.K.A.: BDKJMU
- Location: Philly Burbs
Re: CHEYNEY BOOED AT CPAC!!!
Why are you talking about Biden?eagleskins wrote:As bad a president a Chimpy was, this guy was an even worse VP, if that is possible.
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025

