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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Oh, please. :lol: :lol: :lol:
you laugh - but his statement is entirely accurate... that's EXACTLY what would have happened.
:rofl:

Is that the Donk party line talking point of the day?
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D1B wrote:
Baldy wrote: No doubt, but this budget should have been wrapped up back in October, long before the Tea party folks came to town. :nod:

Yeah, and you would have been the first malcontent here to accuse Obama of fastracking before the new crop of clowns arrive. :ohno:
What a buffoon... :ohno:

The Federal fiscal year ends on September 30th of every year meaning that there needs to be a budget in place starting the next fiscal year on October 1st. The ONLY reason it wasn't tackled is because Obama's proposed budget was an exploding bomb of federal spending and the Donks were scared shitless to finalize a budget with that much spending so close to the election.

That alone is nothing short of pure cowardice. :nod:

Believe me, the Tea Partiers would have LOVED for the Donks to pass that budget because there is very little doubt the Conks would have easily controlled BOTH houses of Congress if it did. :nod:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
you laugh - but his statement is entirely accurate... that's EXACTLY what would have happened.
Can you tell me the dates on which gov't budgets have been passed/signed in years past?
since when has that ever stopped them? :lol:
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We finally get Spring weather.... if the Blue Ridge Parkway closes i'm going to be PISSED. :evil:
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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
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Can you tell me the dates on which gov't budgets have been passed/signed in years past?
since when has that ever stopped them? :lol:
That's not my point. Being more than halfway through a fiscal year WITHOUT an operating budget is a fucking joke. As pointed out earlier, the donks didn't have the balls to pass this bloated POS before elections or we'd be looking at Republican supermajorities in both houses and One-Term Barry would have been up shit creek without a paddle.

Then again, he may still be. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:We finally get Spring weather.... if the Blue Ridge Parkway closes i'm going to be PISSED. :evil:
It's non-essential. It should be closed anyway.
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Fuck you.

20 million annual visitors is pretty essential to a lot of mountain communties' economies.

Plus it's a great place to sit on a mountain and smoke a joint.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Fuck you.
Classic NIMBY approach.

"Go ahead! Shut down! Just don't dare affect anything in MY life...." :roll: :roll:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Fuck you.

20 million annual visitors is pretty essential to a lot of mountain communties' economies.
Well then those mountain communities should be able to band together and afford to pick up the tab to keep the place open if it's so fucking important to them.
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We've been getting some interesting e-mail chatter today as well.

IF, I SAY IF, the updates OPEDA has been sending out are accurate, it is impossible to NOT blame this on the teabaggers.

The 2 sides are incredibly close to a deal everybody can live with. They are at a number that is within 0.5% of the total federal buget.

The sticking points? Planned Parenthood and EPA.

0.5%

Nothing at all to do with money, this has turned into the teabaggers trying to make a social statement, and has less than nothing to do with the $$$$.
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OSBF wrote:We've been getting some interesting e-mail chatter today as well.

IF, I SAY IF, the updates OPEDA has been sending out are accurate, it is impossible to NOT blame this on the teabaggers.

The 2 sides are incredibly close to a deal everybody can live with. They are at a number that is within 0.5% of the total federal buget.

The sticking points? Planned Parenthood and EPA.

0.5%

Nothing at all to do with money, this has turned into the teabaggers trying to make a social statement, and has less than nothing to do with the $$$$.
Dumbass conk from Georgia was on CNN INSISTING PP uses federal dollars to carry out abortions. :roll: :x
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OSBF wrote:We've been getting some interesting e-mail chatter today as well.

IF, I SAY IF, the updates OPEDA has been sending out are accurate, it is impossible to NOT blame this on the teabaggers.

The 2 sides are incredibly close to a deal everybody can live with. They are at a number that is within 0.5% of the total federal buget.

The sticking points? Planned Parenthood and EPA.

0.5%

Nothing at all to do with money, this has turned into the teabaggers trying to make a social statement, and has less than nothing to do with the $$$$.
Here's a newsflash for you, Myron: 90% of the BUDGET is a SOCIAL STATEMENT. It's almost impossible to cut funding to something without making it a "social" statement.

So, stick to your "teabaggers are evil" mantra....it only makes your incessant bleating look even more stupid (which, I know, seems impossible). :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
OSBF wrote:We've been getting some interesting e-mail chatter today as well.

IF, I SAY IF, the updates OPEDA has been sending out are accurate, it is impossible to NOT blame this on the teabaggers.

The 2 sides are incredibly close to a deal everybody can live with. They are at a number that is within 0.5% of the total federal buget.

The sticking points? Planned Parenthood and EPA.

0.5%

Nothing at all to do with money, this has turned into the teabaggers trying to make a social statement, and has less than nothing to do with the $$$$.
Here's a newsflash for you, Myron: 90% of the BUDGET is a SOCIAL STATEMENT. It's almost impossible to cut funding to something without making it a "social" statement.

So, stick to your "teabaggers are evil" mantra....it only makes your incessant bleating look even more stupid (which, I know, seems impossible). :coffee:
I'm not sure they're necessarily "evil" persay, but are incredibly stupid.

Perhaps that's why you identify with them?
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OSBF wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Here's a newsflash for you, Myron: 90% of the BUDGET is a SOCIAL STATEMENT. It's almost impossible to cut funding to something without making it a "social" statement.

So, stick to your "teabaggers are evil" mantra....it only makes your incessant bleating look even more stupid (which, I know, seems impossible). :coffee:
I'm not sure they're necessarily "evil" persay, but are incredibly stupid.

Perhaps that's why you identify with them?
I don't identify with them. YOU identify ME with them, which only proves how ignorant you really are. :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
OSBF wrote:
I'm not sure they're necessarily "evil" persay, but are incredibly stupid.

Perhaps that's why you identify with them?
I don't identify with them. YOU identify ME with them, which only proves how ignorant you really are. :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
you defend 'em

like the average teabagger, you aren't real bright

not really too different at all
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OSBF wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I don't identify with them. YOU identify ME with them, which only proves how ignorant you really are. :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
you defend 'em

like the average teabagger, you aren't real bright

not really too different at all
Typical blindly ignorant donk. Can't separate the issues and the people. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I agree with them on smaller government, therefore, I must be a teabagger.

That's a big fucking brush you paint with, douche.

Isn't it time for another Mensa meeting?
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AZGrizFan wrote:
OSBF wrote:We've been getting some interesting e-mail chatter today as well.

IF, I SAY IF, the updates OPEDA has been sending out are accurate, it is impossible to NOT blame this on the teabaggers.

The 2 sides are incredibly close to a deal everybody can live with. They are at a number that is within 0.5% of the total federal buget.

The sticking points? Planned Parenthood and EPA.

0.5%

Nothing at all to do with money, this has turned into the teabaggers trying to make a social statement, and has less than nothing to do with the $$$$.
Here's a newsflash for you, Myron: 90% of the BUDGET is a SOCIAL STATEMENT. It's almost impossible to cut funding to something without making it a "social" statement.

So, stick to your "teabaggers are evil" mantra....it only makes your incessant bleating look even more stupid (which, I know, seems impossible). :coffee:

Big difference between your average social statement and PLANNED FUCKING PARENTHOOD, shitforbrains. :ohno:
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Baldy wrote:
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Yeah, and you would have been the first malcontent here to accuse Obama of fastracking before the new crop of clowns arrive. :ohno:
What a buffoon... :ohno:

The Federal fiscal year ends on September 30th of every year meaning that there needs to be a budget in place starting the next fiscal year on October 1st. The ONLY reason it wasn't tackled is because Obama's proposed budget was an exploding bomb of federal spending and the Donks were scared shitless to finalize a budget with that much spending so close to the election.

That alone is nothing short of pure cowardice. :nod:

Believe me, the Tea Partiers would have LOVED for the Donks to pass that budget because there is very little doubt the Conks would have easily controlled BOTH houses of Congress if it did. :nod:
Baldy, you're the biggest fucking crybaby conk hater here and anything Obama does is gonna be a disaster to you. :nod:

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All I know is half my paycheck next week has already been pulled from my check as a debt, which they taxed, and I'm sure they'll tax again when I get my back pay. The military is getting hosed on this one. Politicians blow.
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I just had to smack down a stupid fucking lawyer.

We told our contractors several days ago that they will continue to work unless told otherwise. We thought this was pretty clear guidance.

Low and behold, at 5:18 pm, after they were undoubtedly hoping I had quit for the day and wouldn't respond until they could claim delay, I get the following email, redacted to protect identities:
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Our Shady Corporation, Inc. performs the referenced contract at Government facilities or requires frequent access to such facilities or Government property in order to perform. Without continued access to such Government facilities or property, continued performance of the referenced contract will become impossible or impracticable. Consequently, Our Shady Corporation hereby provides notice that it will be forced to suspend performance of the referenced contract in the event of a Government shutdown causing the closing of the Government facilities or the unavailability of Government property necessary for performance of the referenced contract.

In the event of a Federal Government shutdown, Our Shady Corporation will use reasonable efforts to mitigate damages. Notwithstanding such reasonable efforts, Our Shady Corporation may incur additional costs and experience schedule delay as a result of its inability to perform.

Our Shady Corporation reserves and does not waive the rights that it currently has or may have in the future with regard to the referenced contract including, but not limited to, its right to full and prompt payment for performance and additional costs, if any, incurred by Our Shady Corporation from a Federal Government shutdown. Our Shady Corporation also expressly reserves its right to seek and obtain an extension of the performance schedule applicable to the referenced contract if a Federal Government shutdown delays performance.

If you have any questions regarding this notice regarding Our Shady Corporation's inability to continue to perform the referenced contract in the event of a Federal Government shutdown, please contact the undersigned at (xxx) xxx-xxxx.

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OSBF wrote:We've been getting some interesting e-mail chatter today as well.

IF, I SAY IF, the updates OPEDA has been sending out are accurate, it is impossible to NOT blame this on the teabaggers.

The 2 sides are incredibly close to a deal everybody can live with. They are at a number that is within 0.5% of the total federal buget.

The sticking points? Planned Parenthood and EPA.

0.5%

Nothing at all to do with money, this has turned into the teabaggers trying to make a social statement, and has less than nothing to do with the $$$$.
Give the libs their PP money. Shut down the frickin EPA.
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Baldy wrote:The Federal fiscal year ends on September 30th of every year meaning that there needs to be a budget in place starting the next fiscal year on October 1st. The ONLY reason it wasn't tackled is because Obama's proposed budget was an exploding bomb of federal spending and the Donks were scared shitless to finalize a budget with that much spending so close to the election.
I've been doing the contracting gig for ten years now, all eight Bush budgets and two Obama budgets, and lack of a budget on Oct 1 has been the rule, not the exception. I can't recall the last Oct 1st where we didn't start under a continuing resolution. Just FYI.
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93henfan wrote:I've been doing the contracting gig for ten years now, all eight Bush budgets and two Obama budgets, and lack of a budget on Oct 1 has been the rule, not the exception. I can't recall the last Oct 1st where we didn't start under a continuing resolution. Just FYI.
That's just another symptom of a bigger problem. Budgets are never correct to begin with. Why not just pass something close and tweak it as things change?
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AZGrizFan wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
since when has that ever stopped them? :lol:
That's not my point. Being more than halfway through a fiscal year WITHOUT an operating budget is a **** joke. As pointed out earlier, the donks didn't have the balls to pass this bloated POS before elections or we'd be looking at Republican supermajorities in both houses and One-Term Barry would have been up **** creek without a paddle.

Then again, he may still be. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yep. The donks controlled both houses and the White House up till the 3rd week of January. The bill should have be passed in Sept. They had all of Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, and 2/3 of Jan to pass a budget bill and they failed to do so. And in Jan the Republicans only took over the House. And the House is the only body to have passed the 2011 budget bill, which they did back in Feb, where the Republicans compromised down to 61 billion in cuts, down from 100 billion in cuts promised during the campaign. Thats less than 2% of a 3.6 trillion budget. And the spend happy donks aren't even willing to go along with those miniscule cuts, so the Republicans have said they are willing to go below 40 billion in cuts, and the donks still aren't willing to go along, so f*ck em, shut er down.
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This is basically the same scenario as FY96. Donk prez, Conk Congress. Former wants to spend too much, latter wants to grandstand.

According to the Post, the last two sticking points tonight are the Conks want to cut women's programs, particularly Planned Parenthood non-abortion services, and they also want to bash federal employees some more. The two year pay freeze wasn't enough. They now want to deny us any performance bonuses (odd for a crew that always complains that Feds only get rewarded for longevity) as well as step increases, and there are some indications they want to start tearing away at our benefits, which are not a cadillac plan, as I've mentioned before.
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