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jmufan wrote:Thanks for your intelligent response dbackjon, you have contributed very well. So much so that you resorted to name calling.
Yeah, people get kind of testy when you judge their lifestyle which has nothing to do with you, and threaten their freedom, all based on your own superstitions/fear.
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kalm wrote:
jmufan wrote:Thanks for your intelligent response dbackjon, you have contributed very well. So much so that you resorted to name calling.
Yeah, people get kind of testy when you judge their lifestyle which has nothing to do with you, and threaten their freedom, all based on your own superstitions/fear.

And call for my death.

I noticed you didn't respond to that, now did you?
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jmufan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
So you believe this nut case? You agree that gays and lesbians should be put to death?
First off that is not what the preacher said, second of all that is not what I said either. What the man is saying is that because these cities or America in general has accepted a lifestyle(s) that are considered to be an abomination to God, that is the reason why we are seeing an increase in large hurricanes hitting the USA. He also stated that he believes San Francisco is due for a large earthquake because of that particular lifestyle-remains to be seen of course.

Now my thoughts. He is wrong when he says that Chick-fil-A should have a piggy on the bun and "mock" the gay and lesbians. No one should stoop so low as to mock another-that is what many who hate Christians and their faith do, they mock Christians-some even kill Christians (Muslim countries, etc.). However, the Bible is clear that homosexuality is an abomination to God. Just as God hates abortion. We know that God doesn't wish for any to perish, but all to be saved. However, man has gone his separate way and the ruler of this world is not God, but Satan. If you want to blame anyone for the deaths of many, blame Satan, blame man, not God.

In Revelation it has many references to trumpets and bowls. The trumpets that are sounding are warnings, the bowls are the full wrath. God will use situations like hurricanes to warn people that the time is near and that you should repent. Eventually the bowl-the full wrath will come and then it will be too late. To support or to turn a blind eye to lifestyle(s) that are an abomination to God is just as bad as as actually living that lifestyle. God wants all, including those who are have chosen the homosexual lifestyle to be saved-you just have to give that lifestyle up. God will not force you to believe in Him. That is why he gave you free will, to choose who you want to serve.
Stay away from this type of Christian. Hes knows nothing about the word of GOD. STAY AWAY!!! :-x
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dbackjon wrote:
kalm wrote:
Yeah, people get kind of testy when you judge their lifestyle which has nothing to do with you, and threaten their freedom, all based on your own superstitions/fear.

And call for my death.

I noticed you didn't respond to that, now did you?
I didn't respond because of your foolish language. If you had any respect, I would have responded.

But I will go ahead. The guy is wrong. Somehow I missed that part. He wishes for a utopia and it will never work, in fact it goes against everything that is Christian.
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jmufan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

And call for my death.

I noticed you didn't respond to that, now did you?
I didn't respond because of your foolish language. If you had any respect, I would have responded.

But I will go ahead. The guy is wrong. Somehow I missed that part. He wishes for a utopia and it will never work, in fact it goes against everything that is Christian.

Why should I show respect to someone that doesn't respect me? It is very clear from your posts that you have ZERO respect for me.
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jmufan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

And call for my death.

I noticed you didn't respond to that, now did you?
I didn't respond because of your foolish language. If you had any respect, I would have responded.

But I will go ahead. The guy is wrong. Somehow I missed that part. He wishes for a utopia and it will never work, in fact it goes against everything that is Christian.
Tell me, what bible do you read? The Bible I read every day tells me that I should love my neighbor like I love Christ. As a Christian, you should always love the sinner and hate the sin. Pray for all sinners, that they may be saved.
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First off that is not what the preacher said, second of all that is not what I said either. What the man is saying is that because these cities or America in general has accepted a lifestyle(s) that are considered to be an abomination to God, that is the reason why we are seeing an increase in large hurricanes hitting the USA. He also stated that he believes San Francisco is due for a large earthquake because of that particular lifestyle-remains to be seen of course.

Now my thoughts. He is wrong when he says that Chick-fil-A should have a piggy on the bun and "mock" the gay and lesbians. No one should stoop so low as to mock another-that is what many who hate Christians and their faith do, they mock Christians-some even kill Christians (Muslim countries, etc.). However, the Bible is clear that homosexuality is an abomination to God. Just as God hates abortion. We know that God doesn't wish for any to perish, but all to be saved. However, man has gone his separate way and the ruler of this world is not God, but Satan. If you want to blame anyone for the deaths of many, blame Satan, blame man, not God.

In Revelation it has many references to trumpets and bowls. The trumpets that are sounding are warnings, the bowls are the full wrath. God will use situations like hurricanes to warn people that the time is near and that you should repent. Eventually the bowl-the full wrath will come and then it will be too late. To support or to turn a blind eye to lifestyle(s) that are an abomination to God is just as bad as as actually living that lifestyle. God wants all, including those who are have chosen the homosexual lifestyle to be saved-you just have to give that lifestyle up. God will not force you to believe in Him. That is why he gave you free will, to choose who you want to serve.
You should post more often. Things were getting kinda stale around here. :thumb:
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mrklean wrote:
jmufan wrote:
I didn't respond because of your foolish language. If you had any respect, I would have responded.

But I will go ahead. The guy is wrong. Somehow I missed that part. He wishes for a utopia and it will never work, in fact it goes against everything that is Christian.
Tell me, what bible do you read? The Bible I read every day tells me that I should love my neighbor like I love Christ. As a Christian, you should always love the sinner and hate the sin. Pray for all sinners, that they may be saved.
You are absolutely correct. Read what I wrote again. I never stated hate the sinner, never. I stated that God does not wish for any to perish, that he wishes for all to be saved.
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jmufan wrote:
mrklean wrote:
Tell me, what bible do you read? The Bible I read every day tells me that I should love my neighbor like I love Christ. As a Christian, you should always love the sinner and hate the sin. Pray for all sinners, that they may be saved.
You are absolutely correct. Read what I wrote again. I never stated hate the sinner, never. I stated that God does not wish for any to perish, that he wishes for all to be saved.
GOD does not use floods, earthquakes and/or Hurricanes to punish people. After the Great Flood, God stated that he would never do this again. If this was true, After man killed Jesus, he would have Destroyed the earth.
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Ah... the joys of reading along with this thread :lol:
I only have one question - which bible (exactly) are we talking about..?

The pre 1117
or pre 1452
or pre 1764

do tell..?
They are completely different books
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Chizzang wrote:Ah... the joys of reading along with this thread :lol:
I only have one question - which bible (exactly) are we talking about..?

The pre 1117
or pre 1452
or pre 1764

do tell..?
They are completely different books
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Chizzang wrote:Ah... the joys of reading along with this thread :lol:
I only have one question - which bible (exactly) are we talking about..?

The pre 1117
or pre 1452
or pre 1764

do tell..?
They are completely different books
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mrklean wrote:
jmufan wrote:
You are absolutely correct. Read what I wrote again. I never stated hate the sinner, never. I stated that God does not wish for any to perish, that he wishes for all to be saved.
GOD does not use floods, earthquakes and/or Hurricanes to punish people. After the Great Flood, God stated that he would never do this again. If this was true, After man killed Jesus, he would have Destroyed the earth.
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jmufan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
So you believe this nut case? You agree that gays and lesbians should be put to death?
First off that is not what the preacher said, second of all that is not what I said either. What the man is saying is that because these cities or America in general has accepted a lifestyle(s) that are considered to be an abomination to God, that is the reason why we are seeing an increase in large hurricanes hitting the USA. He also stated that he believes San Francisco is due for a large earthquake because of that particular lifestyle-remains to be seen of course.

Now my thoughts. He is wrong when he says that Chick-fil-A should have a piggy on the bun and "mock" the gay and lesbians. No one should stoop so low as to mock another-that is what many who hate Christians and their faith do, they mock Christians-some even kill Christians (Muslim countries, etc.). However, the Bible is clear that homosexuality is an abomination to God. Just as God hates abortion. We know that God doesn't wish for any to perish, but all to be saved. However, man has gone his separate way and the ruler of this world is not God, but Satan. If you want to blame anyone for the deaths of many, blame Satan, blame man, not God.

In Revelation it has many references to trumpets and bowls. The trumpets that are sounding are warnings, the bowls are the full wrath. God will use situations like hurricanes to warn people that the time is near and that you should repent. Eventually the bowl-the full wrath will come and then it will be too late. To support or to turn a blind eye to lifestyle(s) that are an abomination to God is just as bad as as actually living that lifestyle. God wants all, including those who are have chosen the homosexual lifestyle to be saved-you just have to give that lifestyle up. God will not force you to believe in Him. That is why he gave you free will, to choose who you want to serve.

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mrklean wrote:
jmufan wrote:
You are absolutely correct. Read what I wrote again. I never stated hate the sinner, never. I stated that God does not wish for any to perish, that he wishes for all to be saved.
GOD does not use floods, earthquakes and/or Hurricanes to punish people. After the Great Flood, God stated that he would never do this again. If this was true, After man killed Jesus, he would have Destroyed the earth.
You mean the flood that somehow changed mans life expectancy from 100's of years to roughly 35 years?
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Ibanez wrote:
mrklean wrote:
GOD does not use floods, earthquakes and/or Hurricanes to punish people. After the Great Flood, God stated that he would never do this again. If this was true, After man killed Jesus, he would have Destroyed the earth.
You mean the flood that somehow changed mans life expectancy from 100's of years to roughly 35 years?
I wouldn't push your luck with the man upstairs any further. You're already on thin ice for giving 93 a handy under the table at the brewery. :coffee:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: You mean the flood that somehow changed mans life expectancy from 100's of years to roughly 35 years?
I wouldn't push your luck with the man upstairs any further. You're already on thin ice for giving 93 a handy under the table at the brewery. :coffee:
He saw that? :?
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Ibanez wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: I wouldn't push your luck with the man upstairs any further. You're already on thin ice for giving 93 a handy under the table at the brewery. :coffee:
He saw that? :?
So did all your dead relatives.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:
Ibanez wrote: He saw that? :?
So did all your dead relatives.

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I'll go toe to toe with you on Religious mythology and win. Why? You are a blind follower who believes a book written, apparently, but illiterate fishermen, farmers and Kings. Me? I used to be a sheep until my own "renaissance of spirit" 12 years ago. After 17 years of being in a strict Catholic house hold, attending mass, attending Catholic School, studying the Bible, I took the time to research the Bible, the various religions, their origins and their leaders. Like everything, Religion has a product and a bias. You are the sort that gives religion and pious, religious people a bad name. You use "God" to mask your intolerance, ineptitude and bigotry.
In the context of such an overall statement, I find the allegation that the person you are speaking to is guilty of "intolerance" and "bigotry" very ironic as the overall statement appears to be pretty darned intolerant and bigoted.
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I look forward to having kids who will follow God and Christ. I look forward to watching them defend the faith and to stand up for what is right and true.
You go buddy. Stand your ground. I enjoy seeing someone take on all of the anti-Christian bigots on this board who like to call OTHER people bigots when they are some of the most bigoted and intolerant (with respect to ideas that conflict with their own) people you will ever come across.
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Chizzang wrote:Ah... the joys of reading along with this thread :lol:
I only have one question - which bible (exactly) are we talking about..?

The pre 1117
or pre 1452
or pre 1764

do tell..?
They are completely different books
Elaborate. I will be up front and say I suspect that's something you read somewhere and took as truth without ever confirming it for yourself. Something you immediately believed because it flattered what you already thought. Probably written by somebody who is anti-Christian and trying to make a case. But tell us about how you know that to be true in case I'm wrong about that.
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