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[AZGrizFan]

From Wikipedia:

Taguba's report cited numerous examples of inmate abuse, including:

Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet.
Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees.
Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing.
Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time.
Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear.
Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate while being photographed and videotaped.
Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them.
Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture.

A detainee forced to stand on boxesWriting "I am a Rapeist" [sic] on the leg of a detainee alleged to have raped a 15-year old fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked.
Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture.
A male MP guard raping a female detainee
Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees and MPs posing with cheerful looks.
Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees.
Threatening detainees with a loaded 9mm pistol.
Pouring cold water on naked detainees.
Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair.
Threatening male detainees with rape.
Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell.
Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick.
Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting and severely injuring a detainee.

Most of these I have very little problem with. The problem was WHO was doing this. People doing it for shits and giggles is wrong. But "threatening" a detaining suspected of having valuable information with ANYTHING isn't "torture" in my book. Pouring cold water on someone isn't torture. Simulating electrocution isn't torture. Taking photographs isn't torture. Making them masturbate isn't torture. Wearing women's underwear is only torture insomuch as I'm sure it's uncomfortable as hell.

[houndawg]

From Wikipedia:

Taguba's report cited numerous examples of inmate abuse, including:

Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet.
Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees.
Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing.
Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time.
Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear.
Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate while being photographed and videotaped.
Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them.
Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture.

A detainee forced to stand on boxesWriting "I am a Rapeist" [sic] on the leg of a detainee alleged to have raped a 15-year old fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked.
Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture.
A male MP guard raping a female detainee
Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees and MPs posing with cheerful looks.
Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees.
Threatening detainees with a loaded 9mm pistol.
Pouring cold water on naked detainees.
Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair.
Threatening male detainees with rape.
Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell.
Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick.
Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting and severely injuring a detainee.

Most of these I have very little problem with. The problem was WHO was doing this. People doing it for shits and giggles is wrong. But "threatening" a detaining suspected of having valuable information with ANYTHING isn't "torture" in my book. Pouring cold water on someone isn't torture. Simulating electrocution isn't torture. Taking photographs isn't torture. Making them masturbate isn't torture. Wearing women's underwear is only torture insomuch as I'm sure it's uncomfortable as hell.

We'll accept your testimony as truthful.

I would accept any of them in a true matter of national security if they would provide crucial information, but they won't, they'll provide whatever the victim thinks you want to he. I'd confess to shooting Kennedy and Lincoln if that's what they wanted.

[houndawg]

From Wikipedia:

Taguba's report cited numerous examples of inmate abuse, including:

Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet.
Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees.
Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing.
Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time.
Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear.
Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate while being photographed and videotaped.
Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them.
Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture.

A detainee forced to stand on boxesWriting "I am a Rapeist" [sic] on the leg of a detainee alleged to have raped a 15-year old fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked.
Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture.
A male MP guard raping a female detainee
Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees and MPs posing with cheerful looks.
Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees.
Threatening detainees with a loaded 9mm pistol.
Pouring cold water on naked detainees.
Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair.
Threatening male detainees with rape.
Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell.
Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick.
Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting and severely injuring a detainee.

Most of these I have very little problem with. The problem was WHO was doing this. People doing it for shits and giggles is wrong. But "threatening" a detaining suspected of having valuable information with ANYTHING isn't "torture" in my book. Pouring cold water on someone isn't torture. Simulating electrocution isn't torture. Taking photographs isn't torture. Making them masturbate isn't torture. Wearing women's underwear is only torture insomuch as I'm sure it's uncomfortable as hell.

We'll accept your testimony as truthful.

I would accept any of them in a true matter of national security if they would provide crucial information, but they won't, they'll provide whatever the victim thinks you want to hear. I'd confess to shooting Kennedy and Lincoln if that's what they wanted.