Benedict XVI First Pope in 600 Years to Resign

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Isn't the next Pope supposed to be the last?

You talking Nostrodamus predictions?

St. Malachy's. He thinks "Peter the Roman" will the last:

In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End.

I don't actually care though. Don't believe in any of it.

[Skjellyfetti]

When you lead an overthrow of a brutal authoritarian world-wide system of repressive government -- and do so without having one of your supporters fire a single shot -- talk to me.

When the Orioles finish ahead of the Yankees this year, I'll do just that.

[93henfan]

When you lead an overthrow of a brutal authoritarian world-wide system of repressive government -- and do so without having one of your supporters fire a single shot -- talk to me.

That world-wide system of repressive government is flourishing, actually:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-0 ... ation.html

China surpassed the U.S. to become the world’s biggest trading nation last year as measured by the sum of exports and imports of goods, official figures from both countries show.

U.S. exports and imports of goods last year totaled $3.82 trillion, the U.S. Commerce Department said last week. China’s customs administration reported last month that the country’s trade in goods in 2012 amounted to $3.87 trillion.

[D1B]

. He explained later than a number of times during the siege a Nazi soldier seemed to look right at him, and yet inexplicably no one saw him. A miracle -- God preserved him because of his future calling.

[D1B]

Served admirably and with grace in the face of constant slander by the ignorant, misinformed and hateful.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNFpEfMt_AI[/youtube]

Here's graceful Pope Dickhead slapping a reporter.

[D1B]

When you lead an overthrow of a brutal authoritarian world-wide system of repressive government -- and do so without having one of your supporters fire a single shot -- talk to me.

That world-wide system of repressive government is flourishing, actually:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-0 ... ation.html

China surpassed the U.S. to become the world’s biggest trading nation last year as measured by the sum of exports and imports of goods, official figures from both countries show.

U.S. exports and imports of goods last year totaled $3.82 trillion, the U.S. Commerce Department said last week. China’s customs administration reported last month that the country’s trade in goods in 2012 amounted to $3.87 trillion.

[D1B]

Please, we're trying to have a serious discussion here, based on real facts.

He explained later than a number of times during the siege a Nazi soldier seemed to look right at him, and yet inexplicably no one saw him. A miracle -- God preserved him because of his future calling.

[Ibanez]

You talking Nostrodamus predictions?

St. Malachy's. He thinks "Peter the Roman" will the last:

In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End.

I don't actually care though. Don't believe in any of it.

How..interesting.

So the Catholics will bring upon the world it's final destruction? Cool story, bro.

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Just saw on-line that Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana is running second, at 4-1, in the odds to be the next pope.

I'd be impressed if they ascended a black man. We saw (and still see) racism trying to hide behind other contexts in regards to Obama leading the US...and this is one of the most open-minded nations. I might be wrong, but I don't think the rest of the world would be very thrilled with a black person leading them.

[JoltinJoe]

Please, we're trying to have a serious discussion here, based on real facts.

He explained later than a number of times during the siege a Nazi soldier seemed to look right at him, and yet inexplicably no one saw him. A miracle -- God preserved him because of his future calling.

And yet his papacy caused the fall of the Soviet Union, without arms or bloodshed.

I think anyone circa 1978 would have called the fall of the Soviet Union, and all of its puppet states, without arms or bloodshed, a "miracle."

We become quite blase to the miraculous in retrospect.

[andy7171]

Just saw on-line that Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana is running second, at 4-1, in the odds to be the next pope.

I'd be impressed if they ascended a black man. We saw (and still see) racism trying to hide behind other contexts in regards to Obama leading the US...and this is one of the most open-minded nations. I might be wrong, but I don't think the rest of the world would be very thrilled with a black person leading them.

I'd be willing to bet the majority of Catholics world wide are not white.

[grizzaholic]

And yet his papacy caused the fall of the Soviet Union, without arms or bloodshed.

I think anyone circa 1978 would have called the fall of the Soviet Union, and all of its puppet states, without arms or bloodshed, a "miracle."

We become quite blase to the miraculous in retrospect.

[Ibanez]

Just saw on-line that Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana is running second, at 4-1, in the odds to be the next pope.

I'd be impressed if they ascended a black man. We saw (and still see) racism trying to hide behind other contexts in regards to Obama leading the US...and this is one of the most open-minded nations. I might be wrong, but I don't think the rest of the world would be very thrilled with a black person leading them.

I disagree. I don't think many would care. One of the popular priests in Charleston is from Tunsia. He is extremely bright and understanding. He presided over my grandmothers funeral and actually discussed the islamic tradition of peppermints at a funeral (which I found to be quite nice) As I understand from others, he is well respected.

[Ibanez]

And yet his papacy caused the fall of the Soviet Union, without arms or bloodshed.

I think anyone circa 1978 would have called the fall of the Soviet Union, and all of its puppet states, without arms or bloodshed, a "miracle."

We become quite blase to the miraculous in retrospect.

You sure economic and social changes didn't cause it?

[DSUrocks07]

And yet his papacy caused the fall of the Soviet Union, without arms or bloodshed.

I think anyone circa 1978 would have called the fall of the Soviet Union, and all of its puppet states, without arms or bloodshed, a "miracle."

We become quite blase to the miraculous in retrospect.

You sure economic and social changes didn't cause it?

Nope, God did it. Don't question it.

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[JoltinJoe]

Just saw on-line that Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana is running second, at 4-1, in the odds to be the next pope.

I'd be impressed if they ascended a black man. We saw (and still see) racism trying to hide behind other contexts in regards to Obama leading the US...and this is one of the most open-minded nations. I might be wrong, but I don't think the rest of the world would be very thrilled with a black person leading them.

My "shock" was registered over the name "Peter" as the next pope, given the so-called prophesy.

It bears noting the prophesies attributed to Malachy did not "surface" until about 400 years after his death. The forecasts for the popes who reigned during that 400 year-period are pretty spot-on. Since that time, the "match" between the prophesy and popes are far more ambiguous.

Best scholarship is that the prophesies were intended to influence a papal conclave in the 1500s by suggesting that the next pope was identified by Malachy.

[mrklean]

[JoltinJoe]

You sure economic and social changes didn't cause it?

Nope, God did it. Don't question it.

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Why don't you read history books?

If you don't think John Paul II was instrumental in causing the fall of Soviet Communism, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Geez, the KGB nearly assassinated him. Why do you think they tried that?

(I won't even go into the fact that the pope's doctor said he lost so much blood before arriving at the hospital (ultimately 75%) he has no medical explanation for why he survived (loss of over 40% is usually fatal). )

[grizzaholic]

Nope, God did it. Don't question it.

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Why don't you read history books?

If you don't think John Paul II was instrumental in causing the fall of Soviet Communism, you have no idea what you are talking about.

[JoltinJoe]

Why don't you read history books?

If you don't think John Paul II was instrumental in causing the fall of Soviet Communism, you have no idea what you are talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt87mXL_ftg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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I'd be impressed if they ascended a black man. We saw (and still see) racism trying to hide behind other contexts in regards to Obama leading the US...and this is one of the most open-minded nations. I might be wrong, but I don't think the rest of the world would be very thrilled with a black person leading them.

I'd be willing to bet the majority of Catholics world wide are not white.

That's my point. Other cultures in the world generally tend to be much more racist than people from Western countries. From what I've read, there's a fairly deep-seeded distrust of black people in other cultures, especially in East Asia, Latin-America, and some Eastern European countries.

I disagree. I don't think many would care. One of the popular priests in Charleston is from Tunsia. He is extremely bright and understanding. He presided over my grandmothers funeral and actually discussed the islamic tradition of peppermints at a funeral (which I found to be quite nice) As I understand from others, he is well respected.

The dynamics of race are much more magnified at the global level where most of the world isn't a melting-pot like the US. I don't think the majority of Catholics would have an issue with it here in the states.

[JoltinJoe]

A primer on how/why the Pope's 1979 visit to Poland was the spark for the fall of Soviet Communism:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEY5T7k7oGE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I lived through these events. I remember what happened. I find it remarkable that people try to claim that the pope had no influence on these events.

[D1B]

A primer on how/why the Pope's 1979 visit to Poland was the spark for the fall of Soviet Communism:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEY5T7k7oGE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I lived through these events. I remember what happened. I find it remarkable that people try to claim that the pope had no influence on these events.

Obviously he had some influence, but as is the case with Reagan, it's way overblown and unfortunately not enough credit is given to the people on the streets, the workers, Lech Walensa and others who showed true courage and had their lives on the line.

[grizzaholic]

So some visit by the pope, and years later the Soviets fall??? Do you understand how that sounds?

[Ivytalk]

A primer on how/why the Pope's 1979 visit to Poland was the spark for the fall of Soviet Communism:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEY5T7k7oGE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I lived through these events. I remember what happened. I find it remarkable that people try to claim that the pope had no influence on these events.

Walesa and John Paul II had a good working relationship. 600 years since the last papal resignation? We live in interesting times.