Free Speech, Safe Spaces, and Trigger Warnings

[kalm]

BTW, who's educated you and CID on the dangers of trigger warnings, microaggressions, and authoritarian campus culture?

Me, Dave Rubin, and Cleets.

"Progressive", "progressive", and "hippy".

You're welcome...






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Nice, but (as usual) you're a little late to the game.

Try reading a little history. The "progressive" left has been doing and inventing these types of things since Satan created "progressivism".

You've gone two for two over your last couple of posts.

[Ibanez]

Does anyone here think they could survive as a professor of history, political science, religion, or any social science courses for more than a couple of hours without stepping on someone's toe in today's environment?

How about my fashion? My wife teaches fashion as a local art college and two weeks ago she noticed a student was upset. She approached her after class and asked what was wrong. The student told her, and my wife sympathized with her and said she would work with her. They returned to class and my wife asked her 9 students to present their midterm projects. Not a single student had done it and my wife told them she was "disappointed."

This past week, the student's mother yells at the administration b/c my wife had the gall to why the kid was upset, said she was going to die (which is false) AND she was told she had to be more PC and not hurt their feelings. Seriously, the kids were upset that she told them she was disappointed in them.

Spoiler: show

And being the pussies they are, they didn't support my wife at all. PC assholes

[kalm]

Does anyone here think they could survive as a professor of history, political science, religion, or any social science courses for more than a couple of hours without stepping on someone's toe in today's environment?

How about my fashion? My wife teaches fashion as a local art college and two weeks ago she noticed a student was upset. She approached her after class and asked what was wrong. The student told her, and my wife sympathized with her and said she would work with her. They returned to class and my wife asked her 9 students to present their midterm projects. Not a single student had done it and my wife told them she was "disappointed."

This past week, the student's mother yells at the administration b/c my wife had the gall to why the kid was upset, said she was going to die (which is false) AND she was told she had to be more PC and not hurt their feelings. Seriously, the kids were upset that she told them she was disappointed in them.

Spoiler: show

And being the pussies they are, they didn't support my wife at all. PC assholes

Oh you mock them now, but today's art college students are tomorrows brutal progressive warrior killing machines.

[Skjellyfetti]

Does anyone here think they could survive as a professor of history, political science, religion, or any social science courses for more than a couple of hours without stepping on someone's toe in today's environment?

How about my fashion? My wife teaches fashion as a local art college and two weeks ago she noticed a student was upset. She approached her after class and asked what was wrong. The student told her, and my wife sympathized with her and said she would work with her. They returned to class and my wife asked her 9 students to present their midterm projects. Not a single student had done it and my wife told them she was "disappointed."

This past week, the student's mother yells at the administration b/c my wife had the gall to why the kid was upset, said she was going to die (which is false) AND she was told she had to be more PC and not hurt their feelings. Seriously, the kids were upset that she told them she was disappointed in them.

Spoiler: show

And being the pussies they are, they didn't support my wife at all. PC assholes

your wife teaches fashion.

what was she expecting exactly? to teach eager, high achieving students? they've probably never read anything other than glamour and the victoria's secret catalog.

did she not expect that there would be a lot of entitled and ridiculous naive students enrolled in fucking fashion classes?

sorry, but them's the breaks.

[Baldy]

No shit?

Check what I said on the Missouri thread. That whole thing pisses me off to no end. I find it as ridiculous as the the fools in the Black Lives Matter movement.

And again, who posted the original article on microaggressions?

I've long recognized that the logical extension of BOTH political extremes leads to authoritarianism. Ideological purity and political correctness are dangerous things and you see a search for these on BOTH sides.

But right now, there's no organized "Progressive movement" as you seem to fear. The left leaning party in the United States is firmly in the hands of moderates.

And I'm just not as hung up on using the labels as you.

Signed,

Your favorite progressive.

It's not organized, but just a really huge coincidence that so many 60's radical "progressives" ended up in education. Correct?

How 1960s Radicals Ended Up Teaching Your Kids

Last week NYU Law announced that former Weather Underground member and convicted murderer Kathy Boudin would be a scholar-in-residence. She’s the latest in a series of former left-wing radicals with cozy university appointments. Michael Moynihan on how left-wing criminals ended up lecturing America’s college students.

Last week, Rutgers University fired its mercurial basketball coach after he was videotaped “shoving, grabbing and throwing balls at players in practice and using gay slurs,” according to ESPN. Under pressure from school administrators, Rutgers’ athletic director, who had previously defended the coach’s behavior, resigned. It was an appropriate response: violent oafs should be fired from their university jobs for violent, oafish behavior.

On the same day ESPN broadcast the Rutgers tape, The New York Post reported that Kathy Boudin, a professor at Columbia University, was named the 2013 Sheinberg Scholar-in-Residence at NYU Law School. In 1984, Boudin, a member of the Weather Underground, a violent, oafish association of upper-class “revolutionaries,” pled guilty to second-degree murder in association with the infamous 1981 Brinks armored car robbery in Nyack, New York. Babbling in the language of anti-racism and anti-imperialism, Boudin assisted in ending the life of three people, including Waverly Brown, the first black police officer on the Nyack police force, and left nine children fatherless. She was sentenced to 20 years to life in prison. In 2003, Boudin was released; by 2008 she had landed a coveted teaching position at an Ivy League university.

[kalm]

No shit?

Check what I said on the Missouri thread. That whole thing pisses me off to no end. I find it as ridiculous as the the fools in the Black Lives Matter movement.

And again, who posted the original article on microaggressions?

I've long recognized that the logical extension of BOTH political extremes leads to authoritarianism. Ideological purity and political correctness are dangerous things and you see a search for these on BOTH sides.

But right now, there's no organized "Progressive movement" as you seem to fear. The left leaning party in the United States is firmly in the hands of moderates.

And I'm just not as hung up on using the labels as you.

Signed,

Your favorite progressive.

It's not organized, but just a really huge coincidence that so many 60's radical "progressives" ended up in education. Correct?

How 1960s Radicals Ended Up Teaching Your Kids

Last week NYU Law announced that former Weather Underground member and convicted murderer Kathy Boudin would be a scholar-in-residence. She’s the latest in a series of former left-wing radicals with cozy university appointments. Michael Moynihan on how left-wing criminals ended up lecturing America’s college students.

Last week, Rutgers University fired its mercurial basketball coach after he was videotaped “shoving, grabbing and throwing balls at players in practice and using gay slurs,” according to ESPN. Under pressure from school administrators, Rutgers’ athletic director, who had previously defended the coach’s behavior, resigned. It was an appropriate response: violent oafs should be fired from their university jobs for violent, oafish behavior.

On the same day ESPN broadcast the Rutgers tape, The New York Post reported that Kathy Boudin, a professor at Columbia University, was named the 2013 Sheinberg Scholar-in-Residence at NYU Law School. In 1984, Boudin, a member of the Weather Underground, a violent, oafish association of upper-class “revolutionaries,” pled guilty to second-degree murder in association with the infamous 1981 Brinks armored car robbery in Nyack, New York. Babbling in the language of anti-racism and anti-imperialism, Boudin assisted in ending the life of three people, including Waverly Brown, the first black police officer on the Nyack police force, and left nine children fatherless. She was sentenced to 20 years to life in prison. In 2003, Boudin was released; by 2008 she had landed a coveted teaching position at an Ivy League university.

Fair point. And some of them became moderate conservatives running for the Democratic nomination.

[Baldy]

How about my fashion? My wife teaches fashion as a local art college and two weeks ago she noticed a student was upset. She approached her after class and asked what was wrong. The student told her, and my wife sympathized with her and said she would work with her. They returned to class and my wife asked her 9 students to present their midterm projects. Not a single student had done it and my wife told them she was "disappointed."

This past week, the student's mother yells at the administration b/c my wife had the gall to why the kid was upset, said she was going to die (which is false) AND she was told she had to be more PC and not hurt their feelings. Seriously, the kids were upset that she told them she was disappointed in them.

Spoiler: show

And being the pussies they are, they didn't support my wife at all. PC assholes

your wife teaches fashion.

what was she expecting exactly? to teach eager, high achieving students? they've probably never read anything other than glamour and the victoria's secret catalog.

did she not expect that there would be a lot of entitled and ridiculous naive students enrolled in fucking fashion classes?

sorry, but them's the breaks.

Yeah, kinda like how the poor "oppressed" U of Mizzou hunger striker is just another over privileged college kid living off of daddy's millions.

[Ibanez]

How about my fashion? My wife teaches fashion as a local art college and two weeks ago she noticed a student was upset. She approached her after class and asked what was wrong. The student told her, and my wife sympathized with her and said she would work with her. They returned to class and my wife asked her 9 students to present their midterm projects. Not a single student had done it and my wife told them she was "disappointed."

This past week, the student's mother yells at the administration b/c my wife had the gall to why the kid was upset, said she was going to die (which is false) AND she was told she had to be more PC and not hurt their feelings. Seriously, the kids were upset that she told them she was disappointed in them.

Spoiler: show

And being the pussies they are, they didn't support my wife at all. PC assholes

your wife teaches fashion.

what was she expecting exactly? to teach eager, high achieving students? they've probably never read anything other than glamour and the victoria's secret catalog.

did she not expect that there would be a lot of entitled and ridiculous naive students enrolled in fucking fashion classes?

sorry, but them's the breaks.

Are you serious? You really want to bash my wife without knowing her? There are entitled students in every major.

There are plenty of students of History that never learned anything aside from what the History Channel has shown. But the business of fashion, trends and forecasting encompasses economics, marketing, advertising, etc.. Most of the classes are business classless. So please, tell me what you fucking know about it. You're a classless cunt. If it weren't for fashion students, you wouldn't be wearing your fucking clothes.

The expectation, in college that you pay for, is that you do the work. How can you excuse that, you piece of shit? Fuck you Skelly. You're the problem with America. You go to school, you do the fucking work.

Thems the breaks. You're a piece of shit. You should refrain from talking about topics that you know nothing about.

[Baldy]

It's not organized, but just a really huge coincidence that so many 60's radical "progressives" ended up in education. Correct?

How 1960s Radicals Ended Up Teaching Your Kids

Fair point. And some of them became moderate conservatives running for the Democratic nomination.

Yeah...just keep repeating it to yourself, it's bound to come true some day, right?

[Skjellyfetti]

Are you serious? You really want to bash my wife without knowing her? There are entitled students in every major.

There are plenty of students of History that never learned anything aside from what the History Channel has shown. But the business of fashion, trends and forecasting encompasses economics, marketing, advertising, etc.. Most of the classes are business classless. So please, tell me what you fucking know about it. You're a classless cunt. If it weren't for fashion students, you wouldn't be wearing your fucking clothes.

The expectation, in college that you pay for, is that you do the work. How can you excuse that, you piece of shit? Fuck you Skelly. You're the problem with America. You go to school, you do the fucking work.

Thems the breaks. You're a piece of shit. You should refrain from talking about topics that you know nothing about.

You sound offended.

[bandl]

your wife teaches fashion.

what was she expecting exactly? to teach eager, high achieving students? they've probably never read anything other than glamour and the victoria's secret catalog.

did she not expect that there would be a lot of entitled and ridiculous naive students enrolled in fucking fashion classes?

sorry, but them's the breaks.

Are you serious? You really want to bash my wife without knowing her? There are entitled students in every major.

There are plenty of students of History that never learned anything aside from what the History Channel has shown. But the business of fashion, trends and forecasting encompasses economics, marketing, advertising, etc.. Most of the classes are business classless. So please, tell me what you fucking know about it. You're a classless cunt. If it weren't for fashion students, you wouldn't be wearing your fucking clothes.

The expectation, in college that you pay for, is that you do the work. How can you excuse that, you piece of shit? Fuck you Skelly. You're the problem with America. You go to school, you do the fucking work.

Thems the breaks. You're a piece of shit. You should refrain from talking about topics that you know nothing about.

[Grizalltheway]

Are you serious? You really want to bash my wife without knowing her? There are entitled students in every major.

There are plenty of students of History that never learned anything aside from what the History Channel has shown. But the business of fashion, trends and forecasting encompasses economics, marketing, advertising, etc.. Most of the classes are business classless. So please, tell me what you fucking know about it. You're a classless cunt. If it weren't for fashion students, you wouldn't be wearing your fucking clothes.

The expectation, in college that you pay for, is that you do the work. How can you excuse that, you piece of shit? Fuck you Skelly. You're the problem with America. You go to school, you do the fucking work.

Thems the breaks. You're a piece of shit. You should refrain from talking about topics that you know nothing about.

Brick killed a guy!

[Ibanez]

Are you serious? You really want to bash my wife without knowing her? There are entitled students in every major.

There are plenty of students of History that never learned anything aside from what the History Channel has shown. But the business of fashion, trends and forecasting encompasses economics, marketing, advertising, etc.. Most of the classes are business classless. So please, tell me what you fucking know about it. You're a classless cunt. If it weren't for fashion students, you wouldn't be wearing your fucking clothes.

The expectation, in college that you pay for, is that you do the work. How can you excuse that, you piece of shit? Fuck you Skelly. You're the problem with America. You go to school, you do the fucking work.

Thems the breaks. You're a piece of shit. You should refrain from talking about topics that you know nothing about.

You sound offended.

You think? Skelly, it's wise to not insult a man's family when you know nothing. You have no concept of her career. You have no concept of the math and physics (understand the body's movement) that goes into designing something. You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about and then you insult me. Fuck you.


Sure, the fashion world seems frivolous and publicly it I would agree. But the hard work, the creativity, the math, the business behind it isn't something to shrug off. The technical and business aspects of it are more important than just the creative aspects of the industry. Go spend some time around the people that attended SCAD, RIZDY, FIT or Parson, those kids are motivated, ambitious and intelligent.

[Ibanez]

Brick killed a guy!

There was a guy on a horse....

[Chizzang]

Unlike you, I don't consider someone's credentials before I consider what they say - I just judge by the amount of known bullsh!t I hear coming from their mouths

BTW I don't consider Shittzang a progressive/hippie/liberal - he doesn't even know what he is

but he's a hell of a lot closer to me than he is to you that's for certain

Shittzang..? SHITtzang... That was totally unnecessary (funny yes, but unnecessary)

and I can be a Progressive Hippie Liberal if I want to be
and you can't stop me Mr.
and why is "knowing what you are"
so damned important on this forum..?

[Pwns]

You think? Skelly, it's wise to not insult a man's family when you know nothing. You have no concept of her career. You have no concept of the math and physics (understand the body's movement) that goes into designing something. You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about and then you insult me. Fuck you.


Sure, the fashion world seems frivolous and publicly it I would agree. But the hard work, the creativity, the math, the business behind it isn't something to shrug off. The technical and business aspects of it are more important than just the creative aspects of the industry. Go spend some time around the people that attended SCAD, RIZDY, FIT or Parson, those kids are motivated, ambitious and intelligent.

In any pre-med program you are going to have your share of students who want to be doctors because they saw an episode of "Grey's Anatomy" and thought it looked like a cool profession. Then they fail their first chemistry exam and either say "eff it" or they blame the professor for crushing their dreams. Same thing with guy-who-read-steven-hawking's-books-and-thought-it-was-fascinating-and-wants-to-be-a-physicist who is disappointed that he needs to know about the behavior of pendulums and blocks on inclines and all that boring math stuff to get a physics degree.

I would think fashion is even worse for attracting students who only see the glamorous stuff and have no idea how much work and training there is involved in a particular profession, but that's just a hunch. That's not a knock on your wife or her job. The part where you said none of the students completed a major assignment to me was the biggest WTF of that story (unless I missed something).

[Cap'n Cat]

LMAO!!

Fun thread.....

[Ibanez]

You think? Skelly, it's wise to not insult a man's family when you know nothing. You have no concept of her career. You have no concept of the math and physics (understand the body's movement) that goes into designing something. You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about and then you insult me. Fuck you.


Sure, the fashion world seems frivolous and publicly it I would agree. But the hard work, the creativity, the math, the business behind it isn't something to shrug off. The technical and business aspects of it are more important than just the creative aspects of the industry. Go spend some time around the people that attended SCAD, RIZDY, FIT or Parson, those kids are motivated, ambitious and intelligent.

In any pre-med program you are going to have your share of students who want to be doctors because they saw an episode of "Grey's Anatomy" and thought it looked like a cool profession. Then they fail their first chemistry exam and either say "eff it" or they blame the professor for crushing their dreams. Same thing with guy-who-read-steven-hawking's-books-and-thought-it-was-fascinating-and-wants-to-be-a-physicist who is disappointed that he needs to know about the behavior of pendulums and blocks on inclines and all that boring math stuff to get a physics degree.

I would think fashion is even worse for attracting students who only see the glamorous stuff and have no idea how much work and training there is involved in a particular profession, but that's just a hunch. That's not a knock on your wife or her job. The part where you said none of the students completed a major assignment to me was the biggest WTF of that story (unless I missed something).

Those kids, get weeded out quickly. I had the same perception until I saw how much work went into it. The math, the analysis of peoples body's, weights of fabrics, the properties of fabrics, etc... It's much more than a dress on a skinny model.

[CID1990]

Unlike you, I don't consider someone's credentials before I consider what they say - I just judge by the amount of known bullsh!t I hear coming from their mouths

BTW I don't consider Shittzang a progressive/hippie/liberal - he doesn't even know what he is

but he's a hell of a lot closer to me than he is to you that's for certain

Shittzang..? SHITtzang... That was totally unnecessary (funny yes, but unnecessary)

and I can be a Progressive Hippie Liberal if I want to be
and you can't stop me Mr.
and why is "knowing what you are"
so damned important on this forum..?

it isnt important

but you do call yourself a liberal - but thats all dependent on what your definition is - you're a 1954 liberal

by today's standards, so am I

BTW shittzang was just a quick concoction - I was waiting for the right moment to trot out CHIZZARD but nows a good a time as any

chizzard

[CAA Flagship]

and why is "knowing what you are"
so damned important on this forum..?

It's not important to know WHAT a person is.
It's important to know if that person knows or not.

The confused and undecided must be sent to the corner with GATW.