Alabama politics

[dbackjon]

Yeah let's hear your rebuttal. I can't wait to hear how great and accepting the North was and is.

Far more accepting overall than in the south.

Have you lived in the north?

[Ibanez]

Yeah let's hear your rebuttal. I can't wait to hear how great and accepting the North was and is.

Far more accepting overall than in the south.

Have you lived in the north?

I've never lived in the North. But from reading and experiences with people that have lived in the North, it's no secret. The Great Migration turned out so well for so many. Harlem and Chicago's South Side were/are great places to be, for example.


Far more accepting? How do you qualify that?


http://www.salon.com/2014/12/14/the_nor ... ixon_line/


The victor writes the history books...

[Ibanez]

Malcom X

“America is Mississippi. There’s no such thing as a Mason-Dixon line—it’s America. There’s no such thing as the South—it’s America. . . . And the mistake that you and I make is letting these Northern crackers shift the weight to the Southern crackers.”

[Ibanez]

People in the South are more vocal than in the North. Racism is racism, regardless of the location. To give the North a pass on it because of some stupid hang up you have about the South, is just as intolerant as the southern racist you bitch and moan about.


Let me ask you, Dback, when was the last time you lived in the South?

[dbackjon]

People in the South are more vocal than in the North. Racism is racism, regardless of the location. To give the North a pass on it because of some stupid hang up you have about the South, is just as intolerant as the southern racist you bitch and moan about.


Let me ask you, Dback, when was the last time you lived in the South?

2006.


How many good minority friends do you have?


No, racism is not limited to the South. It is everywhere. But it was institutionalized and glossed over in the South and old habits die very hard.

[Grizalltheway]

Malcom X

“America is Mississippi. There’s no such thing as a Mason-Dixon line—it’s America. There’s no such thing as the South—it’s America. . . . And the mistake that you and I make is letting these Northern crackers shift the weight to the Southern crackers.”

Wait, a guy who hated all white people hated them all equally? Shit, case closed!

[Ibanez]

People in the South are more vocal than in the North. Racism is racism, regardless of the location. To give the North a pass on it because of some stupid hang up you have about the South, is just as intolerant as the southern racist you bitch and moan about.


Let me ask you, Dback, when was the last time you lived in the South?

2006.


How many good minority friends do you have?


No, racism is not limited to the South. It is everywhere. But it was institutionalized and glossed over in the South and old habits die very hard.

You haven't lived here in 10 years. I can assure you, in my part of the world, things have changed in 10 years. There'll always be racism, but things have changed. Accept that or don't, but it's the truth.

I'd say your last statement is true for the entire country.

Why does it matter how many "good minority friends" I have? The number doesn't matter one bit. I'm from the South where white kids and black kids grew up next door. Do I have black friends? Yup. I also have white friends. And a few Indian friends. Gay friends? Ugly friends? Fat? Thin? Yup. Why does the quantity matter?

[Ibanez]

Malcom X

Wait, a guy who hated all white people hated them all equally? Shit, case closed!

Not quite what he was saying. I mean, he felt that way. But he was telling people that Northern "crackers" aren't any better than the Southern variety.

[Baldy]

Race relations in the South have progressed much further than in most areas of the country. Yes, even much further than those so-called "progressive" states.

Pfffft Tim Scott is just an Uncle Tom Scott...

The South had a lot fuckin' farther to go...

...and has pretty much lapped the rest of the country since.

[Ivytalk]

The worst racists I ever encountered were whites from the South. South Boston, MA. Desegregating Boston schools brought out the worst in those people, back in the 70s. Among the worst of them was a city councilwoman named Louise Day Hicks. Google her and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[CAA Flagship]

The worst racists I ever encountered were whites from the South. South Boston, MA. Desegregating Boston schools brought out the worst in those people, back in the 70s. Among the worst of them was a city councilwoman named Louise Day Hicks. Google her and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Just a little advice. Google the entire name. If you google just "Hicks", you get this:

[Ivytalk]

The worst racists I ever encountered were whites from the South. South Boston, MA. Desegregating Boston schools brought out the worst in those people, back in the 70s. Among the worst of them was a city councilwoman named Louise Day Hicks. Google her and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Just a little advice. Google the entire name. If you google just "Hicks", you get this:

looks like you Googled "Trump supporter" instead...

[Ibanez]

The worst racists I ever encountered were whites from the South. South Boston, MA. Desegregating Boston schools brought out the worst in those people, back in the 70s. Among the worst of them was a city councilwoman named Louise Day Hicks. Google her and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Some of the most racist people I've met were from upstate NY.

[YoUDeeMan]

It's amazing how true that is.

Does either way really make any sense?

Education is a wonderful thing...don't be afraid to improve yourself.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Like John Oliver's bit on it this last weekend.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So9pPPfKNJs[/youtube]

[Skjellyfetti]

Roy Moore kicked off the bench.

[GannonFan]

Good move. If you're not willing to follow the law, then get out of government.

[Chizzang]

Alabama...

[CID1990]

2006.


How many good minority friends do you have?


No, racism is not limited to the South. It is everywhere. But it was institutionalized and glossed over in the South and old habits die very hard.

You haven't lived here in 10 years. I can assure you, in my part of the world, things have changed in 10 years. There'll always be racism, but things have changed. Accept that or don't, but it's the truth.

I'd say your last statement is true for the entire country.

Why does it matter how many "good minority friends" I have? The number doesn't matter one bit. I'm from the South where white kids and black kids grew up next door. Do I have black friends? Yup. I also have white friends. And a few Indian friends. Gay friends? Ugly friends? Fat? Thin? Yup. Why does the quantity matter?

Because when you've bought into identity politics like Jon has, you have to have bona fides. Guilty whites like him collect their black friends like campaign buttons

[kalm]

[DSUrocks07]

You haven't lived here in 10 years. I can assure you, in my part of the world, things have changed in 10 years. There'll always be racism, but things have changed. Accept that or don't, but it's the truth.

I'd say your last statement is true for the entire country.

Why does it matter how many "good minority friends" I have? The number doesn't matter one bit. I'm from the South where white kids and black kids grew up next door. Do I have black friends? Yup. I also have white friends. And a few Indian friends. Gay friends? Ugly friends? Fat? Thin? Yup. Why does the quantity matter?

Because when you've bought into identity politics like Jon has, you have to have bona fides. Guilty whites like him collect their black friends like campaign buttons

like Boy Scout badges

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[Skjellyfetti]

FBI Arrests Alabama State Lawmaker, Ex-GOP Chairman

Federal prosecutors on Monday arrested and charged State Rep. Jack Williams and former Alabama Republican Party Chairman Martin Connors in a public corruption investigation stemming from a 2016 insurance coverage scheme.

Williams, R-Vestavia Hills, and Connors, now a lobbyist, were arrested at their respective homes and appeared in federal court in Montgomery. In handcuffs shackled to their waists, Williams and Connors both told the judge they understood the charges against them.

Assistant United States Attorney Jonathan S. Ross said both men would be released Monday, with unsecured bails set at $25,000. An arraignment hearing has been set for April 18.

Williams and Connors are charged alongside G. Ford Gilbert, the CEO of California-based healthcare company Trina Health. All three face charges of conspiracy to commit bribery related to federal programs, conspiracy to commit honest services wire fraud and honest services wire fraud.

Gilbert, who was arrested in California Monday, is also charged with health care fraud and interstate travel in aid of racketeering.

The charges stem from a 2016 scheme to force Blue Cross/Blue Shield, the state's largest insurer, to cover treatments provided by Trina's three diabetes clinics in Alabama.

Trina's clinics used an "artificial pancreas treatment" which provided intravenous insulin injection therapy for treating diabetes. The treatment was not FDA-approved, and in 2009 the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services announced it would not cover the costs of similar therapies.

Many private health care plans followed suit, according to Monday's indictment, including BC/BS.

The federal indictment alleges Gilbert made multiple payments to former Alabama House Majority Leader Micky Hammon in an effort to push a bill through the Legislature's 2016 session.

Gilbert also offered to pay Hammon's $240,000 debt with Regions Financial Corporation, according to court documents.

http://www.governing.com/topics/politic ... abama.html

[Ivytalk]

FBI Arrests Alabama State Lawmaker, Ex-GOP Chairman

Federal prosecutors on Monday arrested and charged State Rep. Jack Williams and former Alabama Republican Party Chairman Martin Connors in a public corruption investigation stemming from a 2016 insurance coverage scheme.

Williams, R-Vestavia Hills, and Connors, now a lobbyist, were arrested at their respective homes and appeared in federal court in Montgomery. In handcuffs shackled to their waists, Williams and Connors both told the judge they understood the charges against them.

Assistant United States Attorney Jonathan S. Ross said both men would be released Monday, with unsecured bails set at $25,000. An arraignment hearing has been set for April 18.

Williams and Connors are charged alongside G. Ford Gilbert, the CEO of California-based healthcare company Trina Health. All three face charges of conspiracy to commit bribery related to federal programs, conspiracy to commit honest services wire fraud and honest services wire fraud.

Gilbert, who was arrested in California Monday, is also charged with health care fraud and interstate travel in aid of racketeering.

The charges stem from a 2016 scheme to force Blue Cross/Blue Shield, the state's largest insurer, to cover treatments provided by Trina's three diabetes clinics in Alabama.

Trina's clinics used an "artificial pancreas treatment" which provided intravenous insulin injection therapy for treating diabetes. The treatment was not FDA-approved, and in 2009 the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services announced it would not cover the costs of similar therapies.

Many private health care plans followed suit, according to Monday's indictment, including BC/BS.

The federal indictment alleges Gilbert made multiple payments to former Alabama House Majority Leader Micky Hammon in an effort to push a bill through the Legislature's 2016 session.

Gilbert also offered to pay Hammon's $240,000 debt with Regions Financial Corporation, according to court documents.

http://www.governing.com/topics/politic ... abama.html

Couldn’t find anything else, AJ?

[houndawg]

Race relations in the South have progressed much further than in most areas of the country. Yes, even much further than those so-called "progressive" states.

Pfffft Tim Scott is just an Uncle Tom Scott...

Reminds me of the old joke about the difference between Northern and Southern racial attitudes.

In the South, white folks hate blacks as a race but love them as individuals.

In the North, it's the other way around!

More truth than fiction in that statement.

[houndawg]

Yeah let's hear your rebuttal. I can't wait to hear how great and accepting the North was and is.

Far more accepting overall than in the south.

Have you lived in the north?

The north is better at ghettos.