Hard times a comin' for gubmint workers

[bandl]

Y'OK, Cooter.

...uphill both ways...

I swim uphill both ways

[kalm]

...uphill both ways...

I swim uphill both ways

So do sperm.

[houndawg]

This news went around the office last week via email. I replied all, "make morale great again." That got some chuckles.

I see the procedural move as establishing a way to cut certain programs. Those employees would then essentially be RIF'ed elsewhere. There are long-established rules in place for that. That wouldn't hurt folks in places like DC too badly, because they could simply move down the street to another agency, unless their career is such a niche that it doesn't translate elsewhere. It would indeed suck for people with no other office nearby to move to. I am fortunate in that regard, because every agency has a procurement function.

I think the R's will run into legal trouble if they try to take away established employee protections. I think this is mostly going to be a drill about rewriting the rules for new hires. This happened in the late 80s when FERS replaced CSRS. Legacy employees' benefits were not affected. However...

An almost certainty is that they will take away the government contribution to pension in this latest go-round, which will equate to about an effective 5% pay cut for most federal employees. They tried to do that a few years back during the budget showdowns, but it didn't go through. This time it very well might.

There will also undoubtedly be a hiring freeze. Agencies were advertising like crazy in Nov and Dec trying to fill every vacancy in anticipation of this. I don't have a lot of heartburn with shrinking agencies through natural attrition. People find a way to adapt.

Didn't the PATCO strike take care of that a long time ago?

[houndawg]

I swim uphill both ways

So do sperm.

klam for alley-oop slam..

[93henfan]

This news went around the office last week via email. I replied all, "make morale great again." That got some chuckles.

I see the procedural move as establishing a way to cut certain programs. Those employees would then essentially be RIF'ed elsewhere. There are long-established rules in place for that. That wouldn't hurt folks in places like DC too badly, because they could simply move down the street to another agency, unless their career is such a niche that it doesn't translate elsewhere. It would indeed suck for people with no other office nearby to move to. I am fortunate in that regard, because every agency has a procurement function.

I think the R's will run into legal trouble if they try to take away established employee protections. I think this is mostly going to be a drill about rewriting the rules for new hires. This happened in the late 80s when FERS replaced CSRS. Legacy employees' benefits were not affected. However...

An almost certainty is that they will take away the government contribution to pension in this latest go-round, which will equate to about an effective 5% pay cut for most federal employees. They tried to do that a few years back during the budget showdowns, but it didn't go through. This time it very well might.

There will also undoubtedly be a hiring freeze. Agencies were advertising like crazy in Nov and Dec trying to fill every vacancy in anticipation of this. I don't have a lot of heartburn with shrinking agencies through natural attrition. People find a way to adapt.

Didn't the PATCO strike take care of that a long time ago?

No idea. I can't be in a union due to the nature of my job. I'm referring to protections under US Code rather than any collective bargaining agreements. Anybody who would keep striking when ordered by the President to return to work is not too sharp, especially when they're crippling transportation. Not sure how it relates to this though.

[Ivytalk]

Survivor: Federal Employees

new unreality show starring 93henfan

[houndawg]

Didn't the PATCO strike take care of that a long time ago?

No idea. I can't be in a union due to the nature of my job. I'm referring to protections under US Code rather than any collective bargaining agreements. Anybody who would keep striking when ordered by the President to return to work is not too sharp, especially when they're crippling transportation. Not sure how it relates to this though.

Since the strike was broken I assumed that whatever protections existed had been diminished.

[AZGrizFan]

I have a full days work done before his fat ass hits the desk chair.

Fvckin kids are soft these days

Y'OK, Cooter.

Keep in mind two things, 93: densedawg is a former Army puke, AND a union fella. Thus, "a full days work" to him is him squeeeeeeezing 90 minutes of work into an 8 hour day....and just being fucking exhausted by it.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

So.............like a banker except Houndy actually works 90 mins in 8 hours?

[houndawg]

Y'OK, Cooter.

Keep in mind two things, 93: densedawg is a former Army puke, AND a union fella. Thus, "a full days work" to him is him squeeeeeeezing 90 minutes of work into an 8 hour day....and just being **** exhausted by it.

Ah, I see, he was an officer.

[Skjellyfetti]

Consular officers are self funded (through consular fees)

Yeah... Kinda like how the post office is self funded through postage stamps?

[AZGrizFan]

So.............like a banker except Houndy actually works 90 mins in 8 hours?

Yeah, fuck bankers.

[houndawg]

So.............like a banker except Houndy actually works 90 mins in 8 hours?

[CID1990]

Consular officers are self funded (through consular fees)

Yeah... Kinda like how the post office is self funded through postage stamps?

No, but your hyperbole is noted - I figured you'd have learned your lesson when you tried to claim the Foreign Service is a union shop

The Bureau of Consular Affairs is budget neutral - look it up. We generate more than our operating budget in consular fees and the overage goes back, minus costs for rescuing dumb Americans overseas.

[houndawg]

Yeah... Kinda like how the post office is self funded through postage stamps?

No, but your hyperbole is noted - I figured you'd have learned your lesson when you tried to claim the Foreign Service is a union shop

The Bureau of Consular Affairs is budget neutral - look it up. We generate more than our operating budget in consular fees and the overage goes back, minus costs for rescuing dumb Americans overseas.

Will that change if they move you to DHS?

[CID1990]

No, but your hyperbole is noted - I figured you'd have learned your lesson when you tried to claim the Foreign Service is a union shop

The Bureau of Consular Affairs is budget neutral - look it up. We generate more than our operating budget in consular fees and the overage goes back, minus costs for rescuing dumb Americans overseas.

Will that change if they move you to DHS?

The recusing dumb Americans part or the budget neutral part?

Actually the first will definitely continue into eternity

[YoUDeeMan]

Yeah... Kinda like how the post office is self funded through postage stamps?

No, but your hyperbole is noted - I figured you'd have learned your lesson when you tried to claim the Foreign Service is a union shop

The Bureau of Consular Affairs is budget neutral - look it up. We generate more than our operating budget in consular fees and the overage goes back, minus costs for rescuing dumb Americans overseas.

One of the best things about CS is when CID1990 destroys silly liberal myths about the world.

[CID1990]

No, but your hyperbole is noted - I figured you'd have learned your lesson when you tried to claim the Foreign Service is a union shop

The Bureau of Consular Affairs is budget neutral - look it up. We generate more than our operating budget in consular fees and the overage goes back, minus costs for rescuing dumb Americans overseas.

One of the best things about CS is when CID1990 destroys silly liberal myths about the world.

I'll amplify my statement a little.

1% of the Americans in trouble overseas aren't dumb, just unlucky. But the vast majority that we have to repatriate should never be traveling overseas, ever.

[93henfan]

I alluded to most of this earlier in the thread, but here are the likely-to-happen items regarding the federal workforce under the 115th Congress:

http://federalnewsradio.com/commentary/ ... -congress/

These would have little to no impact on me, other than the pay freeze (and I don't really care because I'm still getting step increases - I didn't really feel much pain under Obama's three year pay freeze) and if the increased pension contribution (not mentioned in this article) comes to fruition.

[andy7171]

I alluded to most of this earlier in the thread, but here are the likely-to-happen items regarding the federal workforce under the 115th Congress:

http://federalnewsradio.com/commentary/ ... -congress/

These would have little to no impact on me, other than the pay freeze (and I don't really care because I'm still getting step increases - I didn't really feel much pain under Obama's three year pay freeze) and if the increased pension contribution (not mentioned in this article) comes to fruition.

Lazy fuck!

[93henfan]

Settle down, punchy!

[CID1990]

I alluded to most of this earlier in the thread, but here are the likely-to-happen items regarding the federal workforce under the 115th Congress:

http://federalnewsradio.com/commentary/ ... -congress/

These would have little to no impact on me, other than the pay freeze (and I don't really care because I'm still getting step increases - I didn't really feel much pain under Obama's three year pay freeze) and if the increased pension contribution (not mentioned in this article) comes to fruition.

I'm almost certain that this rule is going to be aimed at burrowed political appointees. There are a few thousand of them burrowing in as we speak.

That said, they could easily halve the Federal workforce and nobody would notice. Not even their coworkers.

[93henfan]

That said, they could easily halve the Federal workforce and nobody would notice. Not even their coworkers.

[CID1990]

That said, they could easily halve the Federal workforce and nobody would notice. Not even their coworkers.

It's true!

I've never seen so many people who work so hard at not doing anything.

[bandl]

It's true!

I've never seen so many people who work so hard at not doing anything.

What about the WNBA? Cleveland Browns? Canada?